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Ahle Sunnah wal Jama
In the Name of Allah the the Most Merciful the Most Beneficient
All the referances that you sent me only confirm that we need to follow the Quran and the Sunnah. There is not a single ayah is the Quran that says 'Follow only the Quran" or "Don't listen to, or obey the messenger (Muhammed)", (if you can find any such ayat please i would love to read the explaination of it!!)
Rather the evidence from the Quran actually disapproves of your beliefs. (as i will explain mention below).
Also i think you are confused with the shariyah definition of Sunnah and hadith (the authentic and fabriacted) and also the definition of 'following the prophet Muhammed'.
As for the Sunnah it means= lit. Legal ways, actions, method of worship, or statements of the prophet Muhammed (pbuh) that have become models for muslims to follow.
Hadith= Saying, consent and approval of the messenger of Allah (pbuh). They are of different grades depending on the authenticity of narration. Some are fabricated and we reject, some are muthawathir (unanoumous) due to the sheer number of trust worthy people who narrated them.
Sharia= is the dynamic body of islamic law. The term means "way" or "path to the water source"; it is the legal framework (eg. prohibitions and obligations) within which the public and some private aspects of life are regulated for those living in a legal system based on muslim principles of jurisprudence. Sharia deals with many aspects of day-to-day life, including politics, economics, banking, business law, contract law, family, sexuality, hygiene, and social issues.
How can you hear an authentic hadith (eg. from Sahih Bukhari) and then refuse to accept, or follow or impliment it? hiding behind a 'fancy' explanation like 'i don't believe the sunnah is a source of shariya'!!
can you prove to me from the Quran that the Sunnah is not a source of shariyah? you have not so far- except by your own twisted explanation.
Where are your scholars who understand the Quran? who do they refer to? where did they get thier understanding from?
It all boils down to the messenger of Allah and his companions. It was to them, about them, that the Quran was revealed and they in turn, they bought it to the world and eventually reaching us.
So who would understand this Quran better and it's application other than them? and did they not implement it in thier own lives?
And when the messenger of Allah made dua to Allah to give ibn Abbas the correct understanding of the Quran? Do you think Allh rejected that dua? Or did the companions consider ibn abbas to be the most knowledgable amongst them with regurads to the Quran? i think you know the answer.
The sahabi were eagar to emmulate the prophet (pbuh) in his every actions. Can you find a single sahabi with the same understanding of Islam as your self? I didn't think so.
So why don't you, or your scholars (if you have any) refer to the messenger of Allah and his companions to understand the Quran rather than your own ration and desire?
:astag:
There is only three ayat i need to quote to you, and insha Allah if you research them properly- from the correct sources- this 'sunnah is not a source of shariya' ideology will crumble between your hands like dry sand...
The messenger of Allah does not speak from his own desires. His words 'hadith' are a form of inspiration from Allah
"Your comapnion (muhammed) has neither gone astray nor has erred. Nor does he speak of (his own) desires. It is only a revealation. (Surah Najm 2-3)
We are commanded by Allah to emmulate the messenger of Allah because he was the embodiment of the Quran.
"Indeed in the messenger of Allah (Muhammed) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes for (the meeting with) Allah and the Last Day, and remebers Allah much" (Surah Ahzab 33:21)
Haidth= the sayings of the messenger of Allah= source of shariyah= prohibitions and commandment ect
"What ever the messenger (Muhammed) gives you take it, and what ever he forbids you, abstain from it" (59:7)
And if you persist in your disbelief- then know that Allah does not like the disbelievers.
"It is not for a believing man or woman, when Allah and His messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any opinion in thier decision. Amd who ever disobeys Allah and His messenger, he has indeed strayed into plain error"
Allah Knows Best
Please feel free to add your comments. Jazak Allah Khair
All the referances that you sent me only confirm that we need to follow the Quran and the Sunnah. There is not a single ayah is the Quran that says 'Follow only the Quran" or "Don't listen to, or obey the messenger (Muhammed)", (if you can find any such ayat please i would love to read the explaination of it!!)
Rather the evidence from the Quran actually disapproves of your beliefs. (as i will explain mention below).
Also i think you are confused with the shariyah definition of Sunnah and hadith (the authentic and fabriacted) and also the definition of 'following the prophet Muhammed'.
As for the Sunnah it means= lit. Legal ways, actions, method of worship, or statements of the prophet Muhammed (pbuh) that have become models for muslims to follow.
Hadith= Saying, consent and approval of the messenger of Allah (pbuh). They are of different grades depending on the authenticity of narration. Some are fabricated and we reject, some are muthawathir (unanoumous) due to the sheer number of trust worthy people who narrated them.
Sharia= is the dynamic body of islamic law. The term means "way" or "path to the water source"; it is the legal framework (eg. prohibitions and obligations) within which the public and some private aspects of life are regulated for those living in a legal system based on muslim principles of jurisprudence. Sharia deals with many aspects of day-to-day life, including politics, economics, banking, business law, contract law, family, sexuality, hygiene, and social issues.
How can you hear an authentic hadith (eg. from Sahih Bukhari) and then refuse to accept, or follow or impliment it? hiding behind a 'fancy' explanation like 'i don't believe the sunnah is a source of shariya'!!
can you prove to me from the Quran that the Sunnah is not a source of shariyah? you have not so far- except by your own twisted explanation.
Where are your scholars who understand the Quran? who do they refer to? where did they get thier understanding from?
It all boils down to the messenger of Allah and his companions. It was to them, about them, that the Quran was revealed and they in turn, they bought it to the world and eventually reaching us.
So who would understand this Quran better and it's application other than them? and did they not implement it in thier own lives?
And when the messenger of Allah made dua to Allah to give ibn Abbas the correct understanding of the Quran? Do you think Allh rejected that dua? Or did the companions consider ibn abbas to be the most knowledgable amongst them with regurads to the Quran? i think you know the answer.
The sahabi were eagar to emmulate the prophet (pbuh) in his every actions. Can you find a single sahabi with the same understanding of Islam as your self? I didn't think so.
So why don't you, or your scholars (if you have any) refer to the messenger of Allah and his companions to understand the Quran rather than your own ration and desire?
:astag:
There is only three ayat i need to quote to you, and insha Allah if you research them properly- from the correct sources- this 'sunnah is not a source of shariya' ideology will crumble between your hands like dry sand...
The messenger of Allah does not speak from his own desires. His words 'hadith' are a form of inspiration from Allah
"Your comapnion (muhammed) has neither gone astray nor has erred. Nor does he speak of (his own) desires. It is only a revealation. (Surah Najm 2-3)
We are commanded by Allah to emmulate the messenger of Allah because he was the embodiment of the Quran.
"Indeed in the messenger of Allah (Muhammed) you have a good example to follow for him who hopes for (the meeting with) Allah and the Last Day, and remebers Allah much" (Surah Ahzab 33:21)
Haidth= the sayings of the messenger of Allah= source of shariyah= prohibitions and commandment ect
"What ever the messenger (Muhammed) gives you take it, and what ever he forbids you, abstain from it" (59:7)
And if you persist in your disbelief- then know that Allah does not like the disbelievers.
"It is not for a believing man or woman, when Allah and His messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any opinion in thier decision. Amd who ever disobeys Allah and His messenger, he has indeed strayed into plain error"
Allah Knows Best
Please feel free to add your comments. Jazak Allah Khair
