Since many people don't seem to read the replies that we put our effort into, I'll keep it short (the first part) so you can actually read them (and hopefully bother to refer back to the lengthly ones)...
Saying that Muslim is sufficient a title, is an attack on the `Ullema throughout the ages, up to the companions some of who used for themselves the title "Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa`ah".
Hasan Al-Basree rahimahullaah, was a student of the household of the Messenger, sal-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam (he learnt from the household). One of his devious students, withdrew (I`tizaal) from his lessons and started his own dogma with his own followers. Thus they became known as the mu`tazilah (the withdrawers), whilst the people of truth where then called Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa`ah.
There's hardly a debatable matter, in fact the Messenger himself, sal-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam said,
From here is where the title Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa`ah is stemmed (and the other varieties of this hadeeth). From here labels such as the "saved sect" came from.
Akhee, the one who Allaah has aided in the deen (with some knowledge), can see the flaw of your post. After admitting that the Milaad (Prophet's birthday) is a deviation, you ask for a specific proof on the issue of calling oneself other than a Muslim from the Sunnah. I ask you, may Allaah have mercy on you about the first part of your post, so this is what I ask. "Show me a specific proof where the Prophet said the Milaad is haraam."
The fact is that the answer to such a question would be that there is no specific proof, but anyone who understands the deen will know that the Qur'aan and Sunnah, prohibit innovation in general, and command following Allaah and his Messenger, `alayhi salaatu was-salaam. To further this, the best of mankind (1st 3 generations of Muslims, the salaf) never practiced this affair of the Milaad! This is from the guidance of the Messengers; that some of their statements were general and act as guidelines to adhere to, as well as them issuing specific commands.
So as for the specific proof where the Messenger, sal-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam said that Muslim isn't enough, then I say to you: just as we reject the Milaad without specific narrations mentioning it, but use general principles derived from the Qur'aan and Sunnah with the understanding of the salaf, likewise other matters of the deen are can be measured as such.
So the guidance of the salaf on the issue of this naming is clear, read the posts. There are indeed narrations as mentioned already, where the Messenger, sal-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam used this term in question, to his daughter to express that there is good example in following him. The companions were referred to as Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa`ah; people of deviance were known as ahl ul-Bid`ah. People were categorised as such by the salaf to distinguish truth and falsehood.
Many people ask for specific proofs, because they can't bare the truth, so they lazily sit back and wait for non-existant narrations to come to them. Even if it did come to them, they would shun them. Allaah has sealed their hearts, they ignore the wisdom and guidelines available and ask for something direct and specific. The shi`a will do this when saying, "show me a specific proof to say that cutting our heads with swords, to honour hussayn is haraam". Again you can't, each clause is dealt with using general proofs. Others say "show me that the messenger said smoking is haraam!" Again, we use the Qur'aan and Sunnah to show this without the need for specific narrations, wasting money and harming health are sufficient.
I'm not saying you are like these people akhi, but such a statement is like theirs so we should try to avoid this.
Saying that Muslim is sufficient a title, is an attack on the `Ullema throughout the ages, up to the companions some of who used for themselves the title "Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa`ah".
Hasan Al-Basree rahimahullaah, was a student of the household of the Messenger, sal-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam (he learnt from the household). One of his devious students, withdrew (I`tizaal) from his lessons and started his own dogma with his own followers. Thus they became known as the mu`tazilah (the withdrawers), whilst the people of truth where then called Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa`ah.
There's hardly a debatable matter, in fact the Messenger himself, sal-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam said,
"This Ummah will split into 73 sects, all in the fire (of hell) except one. They (the companions asked): "And what is that sect?" He said: "That which I and my companions are upon today." [Hasan; at-Tirmidhee and al-Haakim]
From here is where the title Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa`ah is stemmed (and the other varieties of this hadeeth). From here labels such as the "saved sect" came from.
dna1987 said:
Akhee, the one who Allaah has aided in the deen (with some knowledge), can see the flaw of your post. After admitting that the Milaad (Prophet's birthday) is a deviation, you ask for a specific proof on the issue of calling oneself other than a Muslim from the Sunnah. I ask you, may Allaah have mercy on you about the first part of your post, so this is what I ask. "Show me a specific proof where the Prophet said the Milaad is haraam."
The fact is that the answer to such a question would be that there is no specific proof, but anyone who understands the deen will know that the Qur'aan and Sunnah, prohibit innovation in general, and command following Allaah and his Messenger, `alayhi salaatu was-salaam. To further this, the best of mankind (1st 3 generations of Muslims, the salaf) never practiced this affair of the Milaad! This is from the guidance of the Messengers; that some of their statements were general and act as guidelines to adhere to, as well as them issuing specific commands.
So as for the specific proof where the Messenger, sal-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam said that Muslim isn't enough, then I say to you: just as we reject the Milaad without specific narrations mentioning it, but use general principles derived from the Qur'aan and Sunnah with the understanding of the salaf, likewise other matters of the deen are can be measured as such.
So the guidance of the salaf on the issue of this naming is clear, read the posts. There are indeed narrations as mentioned already, where the Messenger, sal-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam used this term in question, to his daughter to express that there is good example in following him. The companions were referred to as Ahl us-Sunnah wal-Jamaa`ah; people of deviance were known as ahl ul-Bid`ah. People were categorised as such by the salaf to distinguish truth and falsehood.
Many people ask for specific proofs, because they can't bare the truth, so they lazily sit back and wait for non-existant narrations to come to them. Even if it did come to them, they would shun them. Allaah has sealed their hearts, they ignore the wisdom and guidelines available and ask for something direct and specific. The shi`a will do this when saying, "show me a specific proof to say that cutting our heads with swords, to honour hussayn is haraam". Again you can't, each clause is dealt with using general proofs. Others say "show me that the messenger said smoking is haraam!" Again, we use the Qur'aan and Sunnah to show this without the need for specific narrations, wasting money and harming health are sufficient.
I'm not saying you are like these people akhi, but such a statement is like theirs so we should try to avoid this.
and his companions. InshaAllah, I will try explain more and use the Quran and Sunnah and statements of the great Scholars of the past about this subject.
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