Help me answer this question:

muhammadfaiz

New Member
Salam alaikum to all!

Actually yesterday i've received a message in my Youtube inbox.
Someone just asked me a question sounds like this:

"...The question is that many many asians are christians but i really dont know why because the buddhism was their first religion !!!

like the black africans who live in africa brought through the slavery trade to america had to accept the christianity to live on if the would not they would be killed so thats why many black ppl are christians they just follow the slavery religion !!!

how is it with the asian ppl ?

maybe u know it I would like to get somthn back !!"​
so i don't know the exact answer how i'm going to reply to her. :confused:

Hope someone can help me here.
Waiting for replies ^_^
 

ProudMusulman

New Member
:salam2:
check this link maybe it'll be helpful
http://acip.8m.net/xristianity/krishna.html

sorry but i think you have no knowledge about Krishna

first of all he was not born of a virgin, he was the eighth son
he was not the son of God, there is not concept of son of God in Hinduism
there is no such thing as trinity in Hinduism
Krishna's Father was in Prison with her Mother becuz their cousin jailed them
paying tax for what staying in jail
Krishna was born in Prison
and please read the whole thing again
Jesus talking at an early age is in Islam not in Christianity
Krishna was crucified is the most stupidest thing i have ever heard crucifixion in India doesn't exist
Krishna was a warrior who fought many battles he was a Prince of a Royal Family
Jesus never fought a battle in his whole life, and we all know he was a poor man

in the end i want to say that we should not spread lies unlike us, Atheist look at big picture they not only question Jesus(PBUH) existence as well as Moses(PBUH).
They question the Abrahamic religion itself and we are a part of it

muhammadfaiz i didn't understand your question
 

BintMuhammad

New Member
Staff member
:salam2:

I'm not sure about other Asian countries but as for the Philippines, it's all Ferdinand Magellan's fault. They (the spaniards) conquered us for a long time and converted most of the Filipinos to Christianity specifically to Catholicism. Alhamdulillaah, they weren't able to convert much of the people down south as a result of many Muslims there. You can check out the Philippine history if you want to know more and get accurate information.

:wasalam:
 

muhammadfaiz

New Member
Chinese reverts video done by Lim Jui Soon is a msut watch. He actually talks about the difficulties faced by people becoming muslims in malaysia

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=4riS4XLz0Tg

Thanks for the vids my brother!

He's actually not talking about the difficulties faced by Muslim in Malaysia but more on how to da'wa non-Muslim people in Malaysia.
It's good for Muslim or non-Muslim to watch these vids. (sad it's only in Malay language & lil bit in English)
 

massi

Junior Member
sorry but i think you have no knowledge about Krishna

first of all he was not born of a virgin, he was the eighth son
he was not the son of God, there is not concept of son of God in Hinduism
there is no such thing as trinity in Hinduism
Krishna's Father was in Prison with her Mother becuz their cousin jailed them
paying tax for what staying in jail
Krishna was born in Prison
and please read the whole thing again
Jesus talking at an early age is in Islam not in Christianity
Krishna was crucified is the most stupidest thing i have ever heard crucifixion in India doesn't exist
Krishna was a warrior who fought many battles he was a Prince of a Royal Family
Jesus never fought a battle in his whole life, and we all know he was a poor man

in the end i want to say that we should not spread lies unlike us, Atheist look at big picture they not only question Jesus(PBUH) existence as well as Moses(PBUH).
They question the Abrahamic religion itself and we are a part of it

muhammadfaiz i didn't understand your question
Allah bless you my brother
but
you have to know that the source of Christianity is
How did Christianity become mixed with polytheistic beliefs?

Question:
If true Christianity brought the message of the Oneness of God (Tawheed), and stated that He alone is to be worshipped to the exclusion of anyone else in His creation, whether that is ‘Eesa (Jesus) or anyone else, then how did this religion become mixed with polytheistic beliefs (shirk) and how did they take ‘Eesa (Jesus – peace be upon him) and his mother as gods besides Allaah?.

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

There can be no doubt that the call to believe in Allaah alone (Tawheed) and to worship Him alone to the exclusion of anyone else, is the basic message that was brought by the Prophet of Allaah ‘Eesa (peace be upon him), as it was the basic message brought by all the Prophets. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community, nation) a Messenger (proclaiming): ‘Worship Allaah (Alone), and avoid (or keep away from) Taghoot (all false deities, i.e. do not worship Taghoot besides Allaah).’ Then of them were some whom Allaah guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied (the truth)”

[al-Nahl 16:36]

“And We did not send any Messenger before you (O Muhammad) but We revealed to him (saying): Laa ilaaha illa Ana [none has the right to be worshipped but I (Allaah)], so worship Me (Alone and none else)”

[al-Anbiya’ 21:25]

‘Eesa will bear witness to this call against his people, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And (remember) when Allaah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): 'O ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: “Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allaah?”’ He will say: ‘Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner‑self though I do not know what is in Yours; truly, You, only You, are the All‑Knower of all that is hidden (and unseen).

117. ‘Never did I say to them aught except what You (Allaah) did command me to say: “Worship Allaah, my Lord and your Lord.” And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were the Watcher over them; and You are a Witness to all things’”

[al-Maa'idah 5:117]

With regard to how the followers of this religion deviated after that from pure Tawheed to idolatrous beliefs and the worship of Jesus and his mother besides God, this is something which happened early on in Christian history. We will quote here some evidence to that effect from their own people’s words. Let whoever has ears listen.

It says in the American Encyclopedia:

The belief in the Oneness of God – as a theological movement – began at a very early stage in history, and in fact it preceded the belief in trinity by many decades. Christianity developed from Judaism, and Judaism firmly believes that there is one God.

The path that led from Jerusalem (the home of the first disciples of Christ) to Nicea (where it was decided in 325 CE that Christ was equal to God in essence and eternal nature) can hardly be described as a straight path.

The doctrine of trinity which was affirmed in the fourth century CE bears no resemblance to the original teachings of Christ concerning the nature of God. Au contraire, it is the opposite, a deviation from that teaching. Hence it developed in opposition to the belief in One God… (27/294).

You can refer to the views of some of those Christians who still believe in the Oneness of God in the same American Encyclopedia, 27/300-301

Will Durant says:

When Christianity conquered Rome, the new religion (i.e., Christianity) was infused with the blood of the old idolatrous religion: the title of archbishop, worship for the great mother, and an innumerable number of lords who gave peace of mind and were like who exist in all places and cannot be detected with the senses. All of this came into Christianity as the blood of the mother comes into her child.

The civilized empire handed over power and administration to the papacy and the impact of the word replaced the impact of the sword. The preachers of the church started to assume positions of power.

Christianity did not put an end to idolatry, rather it reinforced it. The Greek mind came back to life in a new form, in the doctrines and rituals of the church. The Greek rituals appeared in the rituals of the monastic saints. From Egypt came the idea of the holy trinity, the day of reckoning, eternal reward and punishment, and man’s eternal life in one of the other. From Egypt also came the worship of the mother and child, the mystical union with God, the union which led to Platonism and agnosticism, and the erasing of Christian doctrine. And from Persia came the belief in the return of the Messiah and his ruling the earth for 1000 years.

Qissat al-Hadaarah, 11/418 (The Story of Civilization)

Despite the element of atheism in the words of Durant, which is something that he is known for, and which is apparent in his claim that the idea of eternal reward or punishment came from the Egyptians, tracing the origins of deviant idolatry in Christianity is no longer a secret, and he is not the only one who has researched them. In his book Christianity and Idolatry, Robertson states that Mithraism, which is a religion of Persian origin, flourished in Persia approximately six centuries before the birth of Christ, and it reached Rome around the year 70 CE, where it spread throughout the Roman lands. Then it reached Britain and spread to a number of British cities. What concerns us here about this religion is that it says:

- That Mithras, after whom it is named, was an intermediary between God and man (for a similar doctrine in Christianity, see Acts 4:12).

- He was born in a cave or in a corner of the earth (cf. Luke 2:8)

- His birthday was December 25 (which is the day celebrated by the Christians as the day when Jesus was born)

- He had twelve disciples (cf. Matthew 10:1)

- He died to save the world (cf. I Corinthians 15:3)

- He was buried but he came back to life (cf. I Corinthians 15:4)

- He ascended to heaven in front of his disciples (cf. Acts 1:9)

- He was called “Saviour” (cf. Titus 2:13)

- Among his attributes is that he is like a peaceful lamb (cf. John 1:29)

- The “Divine supper” was held in his memory every year (cf. I Corinthians 11:23-25)

- One of his symbols was baptism

- Sunday was sacred to them

The French Orientalist Leon Joteh, in his book “An Introduction to Islamic philosophy” is of the view that the origin of the Christian trinity is to be found in Greek philosophy, specifically in the ideas of modern Platonism, which took the basis of the idea of trinity as a view of the Creator of the universe from Plato, then developed it to a great extent, so that the resemblance between this idea and Christianity became greater. So (in their view) the Creator, the One Who is absolutely perfect, appointed two intermediaries between him and mankind, who emanated from Him, and were also part of Him at the same time, meaning that they are contained in His essence. These two entities are reasoning and divine spirit. Then he said:

The marriage of Jewish belief and Greek philosophy did not only produce philosophy, rather it produced a religion too, namely Christianity which imbibed many ideas from the Greeks. The Christian concept of divinity is taken from the same source as modern Platonism. Hence you see many similarities between the two, although they may vary in some details. They are both based on a belief in trinity, in which the three “persons” are one.

This is what the American writer Draper refers to:

Idolatry and polytheism entered Christianity through the influence of the hypocrites who occupied positions of influence and high positions in the Roman state by pretending to be Christians, but they never cared about religion and were not sincere at all. Similarly Constantine had spent his life in darkness and evil, and he did not follow the commands of the church except for a short while at the end of his life. (p. 337)

Although the followers of Christianity gained some power, to the extent that they managed to have Constantine appointed as ruler, they failed to eradicate idolatry completely. As a result of their struggle, their principles became fused with idolatry, from which point there developed a new religion in which Christianity and idolatry were manifested equally.

Thus the Christians followed the same path of those disbelievers who had come before them, step by step, as their own Book testifies. And Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And the Jews say: ‘Uzayr (Ezra) is the son of Allaah, and the Christians say: Messiah is the son of Allaah. That is their saying with their mouths, resembling the saying of those who disbelieved aforetime. Allaah’s Curse be on them, how they are deluded away from the truth!”

[al-Tawbah 9:30]

And Allaah is the Source of strength.

Islam Q&A
 

ProudMusulman

New Member
I'm sorry!
Thanks everyone for your helps & also BintMuhammad for info on Philippines.

I think the real question is:
Why so many people in Asia is christian

Anyone know why?

every knows why Philippines is a Christian country

other then that tell him about Indonesia and Malaysia no Muslim Conquerer Conquered these area, but still there Muslim population is more then that of middle east
China has more Muslims then Christian, the range is up to 100 Million
Muslims are in Majority in 2 to 3 provinces
 

muhammadfaiz

New Member
Thanks ProudMusulman!
i've just replied to her question with some of tips from you all here.
Now waiting for her reply.

Thanks again averyone!!! :)
 

AliIbanez

A Stranger in Dunyah
As far as the Philippines is concerned. Spanish Inquisition has something to do with Catholic Christianity in this country (and in some part of the world) in which the possible reasons for instituting such motive are:

1. To establish political and religious homogeneity. The Inquisition allowed the monarchy to intervene actively in religious affairs, without the interference of the Pope. At the same time, Ferdinand and Isabella's objective was the creation of an efficient state machinery; thus one of their priorities was to achieve religious unity to promote more centralized political authority.

2. To weaken local political opposition to the Catholic monarchs. Strengthening centralized political authority also entailed weakening local political opposition. Resistance to the installation of the Inquisition in the Kingdom of Aragon, for example, was often couched in terms of local legal privileges (fueros).

3. Out of fear. The Encyclopaedia Judaica of 1991 (Vol XI, p.485) states that, "It remains a fact that the Jews, either directly or through their correligionists in Africa, encouraged the Mohammedans to conquer Spain." Whether real or imagined there was a great fear among 15th Century Spaniards that they had a Fifth column living among them.[6]

4. To do away with the powerful converso minority. Many members of influential families such as the Santa Fés, the Santangels, the Caballerias and the Sanchezes, were prosecuted in the Kingdom of Aragon. However the King of Aragon, Ferdinand, continued to employ many conversos in his administration.

5. Profit. The property of people found guilty by the Inquisition was confiscated. Sixtus IV openly accused the monarchs of this sin.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

Alhamdulillahah, Muslim traders from arab and neighboring countries in the Philippines introduce Islam long before Christianity came (politically and militarily).
 

AliIbanez

A Stranger in Dunyah
:salam2:

I'm not sure about other Asian countries but as for the Philippines, it's all Ferdinand Magellan's fault. They (the spaniards) conquered us for a long time and converted most of the Filipinos to Christianity specifically to Catholicism. Alhamdulillaah, they weren't able to convert much of the people down south as a result of many Muslims there. You can check out the Philippine history if you want to know more and get accurate information.

:wasalam:

Well sis, I think the only fault of Ferdinand Magellan is that they were well equipped and well armored in the Battle of Mactan except for one...they forgot to cover their feet (THEY ARE BARE FOOTED! tsk!...tsk! :D). And Lapu-Lapu found Magellan's achilles heel (by throwing a spear on it) and the rest is history. It's so sad that Magellan is well known for his achievement (voyage around the world) while our countryman Lapu-Lapu's first description in the NET... also the name of the grouper fish in the Philippines :(
 

bashka

New Member
asc all of you.

:salam2:the answer is easy.becouse of the most peaple in the world live in Asia specially China or India . that is why most of the asians are christian ppl. mostly they dont have any religion it is by mouth.
nobody can say (why people in East Asia converted to christianity?)
did they have an other religion that they covnerted to ? No. I would say if they have Islam religion they would not prefer to convert to christianity . isnt it?
 
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aynur7

Guest
christianity is trend in some of these countries.Actors wearing cross & so.Missionaries have worked there 4 a long time.I heard that they believe in many religions at the same time in Japan.
 
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