Praise2Allah
Junior Member
CHild of God, as the brothers and sister have shown, in Islam we do believe that JESUS was THE CHRIST, the Messiah. We believe he was born miraculously peace be upon him. He is our savior in the essence that he was sent by God and all prophets sent by God are our saviors through God. In that essence, yes, he is. However, he is not our savior by the Christian definition that he died for your sins or anyones sins. Why? Because of two reasons. Or at least two main reasons. The first being that in Christianity you believe in the original sin. In Islam, we dont. In Islam we believe that you are responsible for your own actions. Just because Adam and Eve made a mistake, we cant be held responsible for it. If your father steals, (God forbid) we cant throw you in prison now can we? Exactly. The original sin is even at some point rejected in the Bible itself:
"The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son (the progeny of Adam) shall not bear the iniquity of the father (Adam), neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die." Ezekiel 18:20-21
So God didnt have to begett a son and sacrifice him in a barbaric ritual so that He could/would forgive us. We believe that God forgives us if we repent.
The second reason, is very simple. It is that Jesus Christ peace be upon him never died in the first place according to the Bible itself. Far off huh? No. Jesus said like Jonah was in the belly of the whale three days and three nights so shall the son of man be in the belly of the earth three days and three nights. Like Jonah. What was Jonah? Was he dead? No, he was alive in the belly of the whale. I Jonah was dead of course it wouldnt have been a miracle since he would have been dead. If Jesus was dead, than that isnt "Like Jonah" it is unlike Jonah! You say "no no no Jesus was emphasising the time factor, he was talking about the time factor". Okay, did he fullfill it? The time factor did he fullfill it? Three days and three nights. Did he?
No. Count how many days and nights it was from the time he supposedly died till the time he supposedly rised, it doesnt come to three days and three nights! So what exactly is going on here?
"The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son (the progeny of Adam) shall not bear the iniquity of the father (Adam), neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die." Ezekiel 18:20-21
So God didnt have to begett a son and sacrifice him in a barbaric ritual so that He could/would forgive us. We believe that God forgives us if we repent.
The second reason, is very simple. It is that Jesus Christ peace be upon him never died in the first place according to the Bible itself. Far off huh? No. Jesus said like Jonah was in the belly of the whale three days and three nights so shall the son of man be in the belly of the earth three days and three nights. Like Jonah. What was Jonah? Was he dead? No, he was alive in the belly of the whale. I Jonah was dead of course it wouldnt have been a miracle since he would have been dead. If Jesus was dead, than that isnt "Like Jonah" it is unlike Jonah! You say "no no no Jesus was emphasising the time factor, he was talking about the time factor". Okay, did he fullfill it? The time factor did he fullfill it? Three days and three nights. Did he?
No. Count how many days and nights it was from the time he supposedly died till the time he supposedly rised, it doesnt come to three days and three nights! So what exactly is going on here?