IS COVERING FACE COMPULSARY IN ISLAM

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revert2007

Love Fishing
:salam2:

from what i have studied and understood is that the majority of the scholars say that niqab is not obligatory. it is always praised. but a woman needs to cover everything except her hands and her face. if niqab were obligatory, women would be allowed to wear it during hajj, which they are not. yet they are required to wear hijab during hajj.
:wasalam:
yes ur right brother.even in huda tv i heard that it is always ur personal decision and it depends on ur environment and ur community.if u think there are many men watching u and there is fitnah,then u may wear the niqab.it is always how u intrepret the scholors' oppinion.just because u wear niqab it doesn't make it obligatory to every women.

i know the beauty of a woman is on her face yet Allah knows that when He said a woman wear hijabs,half of the beauty is gone.if a woman wears the proper khimar(am not talking about the small scarf that u claim as hijab) which is long enough to cover almost half of ur body,will automatically discourage men from looking at u.no men dares to mess with religious woman.so if ur wearing hijab yet men are looking at u an teasing u,then ur not wearing the hijab that Allah has ordered u to wear n it is the time for u to change ur hijab to the proper one.

 

ximkoyra

Junior Member
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YUSUFALI: Say to the believing men that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty: that will make for greater purity for them: And Allah is well acquainted with all that they do.

Personally, I don't believe it's necessary because I don't see why men would be told to lower their gaze in the Quran if it was. I don't think that verse would really make that much sense if women were already covering their faces.

Now an argument of semantics could be made that the verse is only referring to not stare at the non-believing women. I would argue against that because this verse is directly followed with the same commandment to believing women, which makes it stick in the readers' head that believing women are also included. Believing and non-believing women are not categorized separately in this verse.

If women are really supposed to be covering their faces, then an exception would have been made telling the men specifically to not stare at the non-believing women as staring at believing women becomes a moot point. I'm no scholar, but exceptions are always clearly laid out in the Quran as far as I can tell. In this case, none has been made, which tells us that the believing woman's face is not covered since men could not lust after them with their gaze if it was.


I guess it's good if you want to though :p
 

thariq2005

Praise be to Allah!
As salamu 'alaikkum, here is detailed fatwa regarding this, please do spend some time on it in shaAllah :) As the arab poet says "The face is more beautiful than the shin" i.e referring to the fact that if the shin has to be covered of a woman, then so should the face. Wallahu 'Alam. Here is the fatwa anyways...

Praise be to Allaah.

You should note that women’s observing hijab in front of non-mahram men and covering their faces is something that is obligatory as is indicated by the Book of your Lord and the Sunnah of your Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and by rational examination and analogy.

1 – Evidence from the Qur’aan

(i)

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And tell the believing women to lower their gaze (from looking at forbidden things), and protect their private parts (from illegal sexual acts) and not to show off their adornment except only that which is apparent (like both eyes for necessity to see the way, or outer palms of hands or one eye or dress like veil, gloves, headcover, apron), and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms) and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons, or their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sister’s sons, or their (Muslim) women (i.e. their sisters in Islam), or the (female) slaves whom their right hands possess, or old male servants who lack vigour, or small children who have no sense of feminine sex. And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment. And all of you beg Allaah to forgive you all, O believers, that you may be successful”

[al-Noor 24:31]

The evidence from this verse that hijab is obligatory for women is as follows:

(a) Allaah commands the believing women to guard their chastity, and the command to guard their chastity also a command to follow all the means of doing that. No rational person would doubt that one of the means of doing so is covering the face, because uncovering it causes people to look at it and enjoy its beauty, and thence to initiate contact. The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The eyes commit zina and their zina is by looking…” then he said, “… and the private part confirms that or denies it.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 6612; Muslim, 2657.

If covering the face is one of the means of guarding one’s chastity, then it is enjoined, because the means come under the same ruling as the ends.

(b) Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “…and to draw their veils all over Juyoobihinna (i.e. their bodies, faces, necks and bosoms) …”. The jayb (pl. juyoob) is the neck opening of a garment and the khimaar (veil) is that with which a woman covers her head. If a woman is commanded to draw her veil over the neck opening of her garment then she is commanded to cover her face, either because that is implied or by analogy. If it is obligatory to cover the throat and chest, then it is more appropriate to cover the face because it is the site of beauty and attraction.

(c) Allaah has forbidden showing all adornment except that which is apparent, which is that which one cannot help showing, such as the outside of one's garment. Hence Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “…except only that which is apparent …” and He did not say, except that which they show of it. Some of the salaf, such as Ibn Mas’ood, al-Hasan, Ibn Sireen and others interpreted the phrase “except only that which is apparent” as meaning the outer garment and clothes, and what shows from beneath the outer garment (i.e., the hem of one’s dress etc.). Then He again forbids showing one’s adornment except to those for whom He makes an exception. This indicates that the second adornment mentioned is something other than the first adornment. The first adornment is the external adornment which appears to everyone and cannot be hidden. The second adornment is the inward adornment (including the face). If it were permissible for this adornment to be seen by everyone, there would be no point to the general wording in the first instance and this exception made in the second.

(d) Allaah grants a concession allowing a woman to show her inward adornments to “old male servants who lack vigour”, i.e. servants who are men who have no desire, and to small children who have not reached the age of desire and have not seen the ‘awrahs of women. This indicates two things:

1 – That showing inward adornments to non-mahrams is not permissible except to these two types of people.

2 – That the reason for this ruling is the fear that men may be tempted by the woman and fall in love with her. Undoubtedly the face is the site of beauty and attraction, so concealing it is obligatory lest men who do feel desire be attracted and tempted by her.

(e) The words (interpretation of the meaning): “And let them not stamp their feet so as to reveal what they hide of their adornment” mean that a woman should not stamp her feet so as to make known hidden adornments such as anklets and the like. If a woman is forbidden to stamp her feet lest men be tempted by what they hear of the sound of her anklets etc., then what about uncovering the face?

Which is the greater source of temptation – a man hearing the anklets of a woman whom he does not know who she is or whether she is beautiful, or whether she is young or old, or ugly or pretty? Or his looking at a beautiful youthful face that attracts him and invites him to look at it?

Every man who has any desire for women will know which of the two temptations is greater and which deserves to be hidden and concealed.

(ii)

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“And as for women past childbearing who do not expect wedlock, it is no sin on them if they discard their (outer) clothing in such a way as not to show their adornment. But to refrain (i.e. not to discard their outer clothing) is better for them. And Allaah is All‑Hearer, All‑Knower”

[al-Noor 24:60]

The evidence from this verse is that Allaah states that there is no sin on old women who have no hope of marriage because men have no desire for them, due to their old age (if they discard their outer clothing), subject to the condition that their intention in doing so is not to make a wanton display of themselves. The fact that this ruling applies only to old women indicates that the ruling is different for young women who still hope to get married. If the ruling on discarding the outer clothing applied to all, there would be no point in singling out old women here.

The phrase “in such a way as not to show their adornment” offers further proof that hijab is obligatory for young women who hope to marry, because usually when they uncover their faces the intention is to make a wanton display (tabarruj) and to show off their beauty and make men look at them and admire them etc. Those who do otherwise are rare, and the ruling does not apply to rare cases.

(iii)

Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies (i.e. screen themselves completely except the eyes or one eye to see the way). That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allaah is Ever Oft‑Forgiving, Most Merciful”
[al-Ahzaab 33:59]

Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “Allaah commanded the believing women, if they go out of their houses for some need, to cover their faces from the top of their heads with their jilbaabs, and to leave one eye showing.”

The tafseer of the Sahaabah is evidence, indeed some of the scholars said that it comes under the same ruling as marfoo’ reports that go back to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).

The comment “and leave one eye showing” is a concession because of the need to see the way; if there is no need for that then the eye should not be uncovered.

The jilbaab is the upper garment that comes above the khimaar; it is like the abaya.

(iv) Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“It is no sin on them (the Prophet’s wives, if they appear unveiled) before their fathers, or their sons, or their brothers, or their brother’s sons, or the sons of their sisters, or their own (believing) women, or their (female) slaves. And (O ladies), fear (keep your duty to) Allaah. Verily, Allaah is Ever All‑Witness over everything”

[al-Ahzaab 33:55]

Ibn Katheer (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: When Allaah commanded the women to observe hijab in front of non-mahram men, he explained that they did not have to observe hijab in front of these relatives, as He explained that they are exempted in Soorat al-Noor where He said (interpretation of the meaning): “and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands…”

2 – Evidence from the Sunnah that it is obligatory to cover the face

(i)

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When any one of you proposes marriage to a woman, there is no sin on him if he looks at her, rather he should look at her for the purpose of proposing marriage even if she is unaware.” Narrated by Ahmad. The author of Majma’ al-Zawaa’id said: its men are the men of saheeh.

The evidence here is the fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said there is no sin on the man who is proposing marriage, subject to the condition that his looking be for the purpose of proposing marriage. This indicates that the one who is not proposing marriage is sinning if he looks at a non-mahram woman in ordinary circumstances, as is the one who is proposing marriage if he looks for any purpose other than proposing marriage, such as for the purpose of enjoyment etc.

If it is said that the hadeeth does not clearly state what is being looked at, and it may mean looking at the chest etc, the response is that the man who is proposing marriage looks at the face because it is the focus for the one who is seeking beauty, without a doubt.

(ii)

When the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded that women should be brought out to the Eid prayer place, they said, “O Messenger of Allaah, some of us do not have jilbaabs.” The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, “Let her sister give her one of her jilbaabs to wear.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim.

This hadeeth indicates that the usual practice among the women of the Sahaabah was that a woman would not go out without a jilbaab, and that if she did not have a jilbaab she would not go out. The command to wear a jilbaab indicates that it is essential to cover. And Allaah knows best.

(iii)

It was narrated in al-Saheehayn that ‘Aa’ishah (may Allaah be pleased with her) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to pray Fajr and the believing women would attend the prayer with him, wrapped in their veils, then they would go back to their homes and no one would recognize them because of the darkness. She said: If the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw from the women what we have seen, he would have prevented them from coming to the mosques as the Children of Israel prevented their women.

A similar report was also narrated by ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with him).

The evidence from this hadeeth covers two issues:

1 – Hijaab and covering were the practice of the women of the Sahaabah who were the best of generations and the most honourable before Allaah.

2 – ‘Aa’ishah the Mother of the Believers and ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allaah be pleased with them both), who were both known as scholars with deep insight, said that if the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had seen from women what they had seen, he would have prevented them from coming to the mosques. This was during the best generations, so what about nowadays?!

(iv)

It was narrated that Ibn ‘Umar said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever lets his garment drag out of pride, Allaah will not look at him on the Day of Resurrection.” Umm Salamah said, “What should women do with their hems?” He said, “Let it hang down a handspan.” She said, “What if that shows her feet?” He said, “Let it hang down a cubit, but no more than that.” Narrated by al-Tirmidhi; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.

This hadeeth indicates that it is obligatory for women to cover their feet, and that this was something that was well known among the women of the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them). The feet are undoubtedly a lesser source of temptation than the face and hands, so a warning concerning something that is less serious is a warning about something that is more serious and to which the ruling applies more. The wisdom of sharee’ah means that it would not enjoin covering something that is a lesser source of temptation and allow uncovering something that is a greater source of temptation. This is an impossible contradiction that cannot be attributed to the wisdom and laws of Allaah.

(v)

It was narrated that ‘Aa’ishah said: The riders used to pass by us when we were with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) in ihraam. When they came near us we would lower our jilbaabs from our heads over our faces, and when they had passed by we would uncover our faces. Narrated by Abu Dawood, 1562.

The words “When they came near us we would lower our jilbaabs from our heads over our faces” indicate that it is obligatory to cover the face, because what is prescribed in ihraam is to uncover it. If there was no strong reason to prevent uncovering it, it would be obligatory to leave it uncovered even when the riders were passing by. In other words, women are obliged to uncover their faces during ihraam according to the majority of scholars, and nothing can override something that is obligatory except something else that is also obligatory. If it were not obligatory to observe hijab and cover the face in the presence of non-mahram men, there would be no reason not to uncover it in ihraam. It was proven in al-Saheehayn and elsewhere that a woman in ihraam is forbidden to wear the niqaab (face veil) and gloves.

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah said: This is one of the things which indicate that the niqaab and gloves were known among women who were not in ihraam, which implies that they covered their faces and hands.

These are nine points of evidence from the Qur’aan and Sunnah.

The tenth is:

Rational examination and analogy which form the basis of this perfect sharee’ah, which aims to help people achieve what is in their best interests and encourages the means that lead to that, and to denounce evil and block the means that lead to it.

If we think about unveiling and women showing their faces to non-mahram men, we will see that it involves many bad consequences. Even if we assume that there are some benefits in it, they are very few in comparison with its negative consequences. Those negative consequences include:

1 – Fitnah (temptation). By unveiling her face, a woman may be tempted to do things to make her face look more beautiful. This is one of the greatest causes of evil and corruption.

2 – Taking away haya’ (modesty, shyness) from women, which is part of faith and of a woman’s nature (fitrah). Women are examples of modesty, as it was said, “more shy than a virgin in her seclusion.” Taking away a woman’s modesty detracts from her faith and the natural inclination with which she was created.

3 – Men may be tempted by her, especially if she is beautiful and she flirts, laughs and jokes, as happens in the case of many of those who are unveiled. The Shaytaan flows through the son of Adam like blood.

4 – Mixing of men and women. If a woman thinks that she is equal with men in uncovering her face and going around unveiled, she will not be modest and will not feel too shy to mix with men. This leads to a great deal of fitnah (temptation) and widespread corruption. Al-Tirmidhi narrated (5272) from Hamzah ibn Abi Usayd from his father that he heard the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) say, when he was coming out of the mosque and he saw men mingling with women in the street; the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said to the women, “Draw back, and do not walk in the middle of the road; keep to the sides of the road.” Then the women used to keep so close to the walls that their garments would catch on the walls because they kept so close to them.

Classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 929

Adapted from the words of Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) in Risaalat al-Hijaab.

And Allaah knows best.
 

IslamicGirl24

Junior Member
Here is something.
Imam Abu Hanifa said that women should cover their faces if there is a fear of fitnah.
The other three scholars, Imam Ahmad, Imam Shafaee and Imam Malik said that women should cover their faces even if there is no danger of fitnah.

Frankly speaking I am quite amazed as to why people insist on saying that Niqaab is not obligatory even with all the evidence.
 

Asja

Pearl of Islaam
Praise be to Allah.

The hadeeth mentioned in the question was narrated by Abu Dawood (4104) from al-Waleed from Sa’eed ibn Basheer from Qataadah from Khaalid ibn Durayk from ‘Aa’ishah (may Allah be pleased with her), that Asma’ bint Abi Bakr entered upon the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) wearing a thin dress. The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) turned away from her and said, “O Asma’, when a woman reaches the age of puberty, nothing should be seen of her except this and this” – and he pointed to his face and hands.

:salam2:

The most of schoolrs are agree that hijaab is fard Alhamdulillah,but not niqab which is only part of Sunnah.

Here it is evidence. I only do not understand on which base some are trying to say that niqab is fard,when the most of Muslims are agree that hijaab is only fard but not niqab. If some sister is wearing niqab mashallah for that,but if other sister is wearing proper hijaab maashallah you can not say for her that she is breaking Allahs comandts but fullfilling His comandts.

:wasalam:
 

halah

Junior Member
Asslamu alikum dear sister,I live in Egypt alhamdulillah I've worn niqab for many years and I'm totaly aware of all circumstances and the environment here ,so if you want to do it then go ahead and if not then no problem because both opinion are valid and each one has its refrences,I hope the link below will be helpful;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_FvxdngfgY&feature=related
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
well the quran has great evidence that women should wear khimar.yet man muslim women do not wear it.
if niqab is obligatory then almost 90 percents of muslim women in this world is committing sin.

during the eid prayer i really wanna wear niqab but it isn't as simple as u think.it needs a lot of patience and as far as am concern i have never seen any men gaze at me.so i just don't want to complicate things.

but if any sister have the opportunity to wear niqab,i strongly advice u to wear it.i wanna do it but i just can't at the moment coz it is a huge step and am gonna put many people in trouble.

inshaAllah one day Allah might guide me to wear niqab.am not against niqab.i want sisters to wear it if it is possible for u and if it is not ,well just don't complicate things.memorising quran,doing dawah,and increasing our iman is far more priority then discussing about niqab.

let the individual decide what is the best for them.it is easy to order smeone to do so and so but we must consider that person's situation and so on.

may Allah guide us to the best.ameen
asalamulikum :)
 

thariq2005

Praise be to Allah!
As salamu alaikkum, just like to point one little thing out to sister asja and sister revert2007. This matter of wearing niqab being wajib or not, is already a matter that has been disputed by scholars. Many of them say it is wajib, while the rest say it is sunnah(mandatory). You have a choice here to incline towards either side, and this wont be following your desires, reason being both the sides of the arguement has an evidence. So in shaAllah choose that which you think is good but you must bear in mind that Allah subhana wa t'ala will raise you higher in ranks in shaAllah by doing something good :). Wajib or not, you know that in shaAllah you will be rewarded for wearing the niqab. However if you live in a place of fitnah (and I do not know what type of place you live in), then scholars from both sides say that it is wajib upon the women to cover their face and Allah knows best. May Allah guide us to that which is the truth, ameen. Forgive me if I said anything wrong by any chance, I usually don't touch upon sensitive issues, but in shaAllah I am hoping no one took any offense from me :)

Wa salamu 'alaikkum wa rahmathullah
 

IbnAdam77

Travelling towards my grave.
assalam 'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

Why is this?

My brothers and sisters! This is an issue on which there is some slight disagreements among 'Ulama. Atleast let us follow the Ijma' which is that "the whole body of a Muslimah is Aurah infront of non-Mahrams except hands and faces".

Niqab falls in either to Wajib or Sunnah category. So on either way, it is highly recommended to do. And we cannot say towards a sister who is in proper Hijab, "Hey! Go and wear Niqab!"

It is related to the power of Eman they have. And it is a Rahmah (Mercy) from Allah that we have options in things (not in any Major one though).

Also please let me ask sister Asja to prove us if the Hadith mentioned is Saheeh (Authentic) or not.

Truly there is nothing difficult to understand in Islam.

wassalam 'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
well i agree with all of u above.as i have said earlier it is individual's choice.we cannot determine ones iman from what she looks or wear.perhaps she is not wearing hijab yet she might be knowledgeable than those wearing hijab.she might not wear niqab yet she might be a solehah woman than those wearing niqab.

what u wear is not a tool to measure ur iman.Allah knows the best and lets be good muslim that Allah please with.

if sisters are wearing hijab,then i recommend u to wear the proper hijab where it doesn't attract men.if ur not wearing niqab ,it is fine as long as ur not in danger or fitnah.but as i can see in today's world everywhere is fitnah.if u can't wear niqab,then try to be "ugly" as much as possible lol.

let ur iman and soul be beauty,not ur appearance.

-no perfume when u go out
-no tight cloths when u go out
-no small hijab which did not cover ur bossom
-no make up when u go out
-no jewellery when u go out

well u might think it is crazy but this is what Allah has ordered.it is up to u to follow or not

IT IS NOT EASY TO ENTER JANNAH YET IT IS NOT DIFFICULT.

some single sisters might think,how am i gonna find a husband if i don't look pretty.

well a good soleh man sees ur iman before ur beauty.
alhamdulilah i followed all above rules and i am happily married and have a son.if i can,inshaAllah u can as well.

just strengthen ur iman and do not think about how to find a husband.it is Allah's job and not urs.ur job is only to strengthen ur iman and make dua to find a good soleh man :)
 

Fatima S.Ar

Happiness = Islam
assalam 'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

Why is this?

My brothers and sisters! This is an issue on which there is some slight disagreements among 'Ulama. Atleast let us follow the Ijma' which is that "the whole body of a Muslimah is Aurah infront of non-Mahrams except hands and faces".

Discovering face & hands is in the prayer in front of women , infront of men she has to cover

I again ask ..
If woman allowed to discover her face .. why Hejab ??????? I don't thing hair is more beautiful than the face ! we don't say about a girl she is beautiful when we see her hair , we say that when we see her face !

Again .. I told you what does ( youdnena ) means in Arabic .. After Allah's words we cannot follow any words or any scholars ... our religion is very clear .
 

Fatima S.Ar

Happiness = Islam
Here is something.
Imam Abu Hanifa said that women should cover their faces if there is a fear of fitnah.
The other three scholars, Imam Ahmad, Imam Shafaee and Imam Malik said that women should cover their faces even if there is no danger of fitnah.

Frankly speaking I am quite amazed as to why people insist on saying that Niqaab is not obligatory even with all the evidence.


Me too , I wonder as well !!
 

Fatima S.Ar

Happiness = Islam
:salam2:

from what i have studied and understood is that the majority of the scholars say that niqab is not obligatory. it is always praised. but a woman needs to cover everything except her hands and her face. if niqab were obligatory, women would be allowed to wear it during hajj, which they are not. yet they are required to wear hijab during hajj.
:wasalam:

I clarified it here :


I have to clarify something !

He forbide wearing Niqab while hajj or Omrah bcz it displays woman eyes , in the past woman could use الكحل i donno its name in English but nowadays they can use make up to make their eyes more beautiful , so it makes Fetnah .. so it's forbidden !

How can someone say that mean I don't wear Niqab so I discover my face !! It will make more Fetnah !!

No wearing niqab = now displaying for eyes = covering all the face


That's in short !
 

Fatima S.Ar

Happiness = Islam
revert2007

Dear sister

Esselamu aleikum we rahmetullahi we barakatuhu


You should know that Niqaab is not obligatory on muslim women. This has been explained by the great muhadith sheikh Nasiruddin Albanee (ra) and the evidence is there. Those who dissagrea and claim Niqaab to be a obligation insists on claiming the hadith is weak which allows showing of face and hands, however they themself use weak hadiths to support their view and these hadiths are not even evidence itself, because they dont show what the prophet (pbuh) said but what Ibn Abbas (r.a) said, but once again Nasiruddin Albanee (ra) said these hadith are not authentic.

So Niqaab is a sunnah, it is part of Islam and you will be rewarded for wearing it, but it is not a obligation, and you are not sinning for wearing it.

As for those who say the entire women is awrah, this is a very weak view. How can then the muslim women be allowed to show their awrah (face, hands) in front of Allah (swt) when praying? So according to them a women is allowed to show her awrah in front of Allah (swt) when praying but not in front of other men (non-mahram)?

So men are required to cover their awrah when praying (that is from the bellybuttom to the knees) but women are permitted to show their awrah when praying according to them!

So the face of women and the hands are not awrah, and those who say it are representing a very weak view.

Don't you know that there is 2 kninds of Awrah ?? as what ibn al qayem said : " auwarh is 2 kinds , in praying and in men's sight , woman can discover her face and her hands while praying but she isn't allowed to go out in front of other men & go shops without covering "

Albani said it's okey if we dont cover our faces , but much many scholars said it's COMPULSARY to cover
Why you follow only one ?? why you ignore the others ?

prophet PBUH said : " woman doesn't describe other woman to her Husband" why ? bcz she will discribe her face , her body and may be he'll love her better than his wife
if women in Sahabah time were not covering their faces , do u thing Prophet said dont discribe a woman = don't discribe the hair :p

In short !!


If we don't follow ibn alqayyyem who said she must cover her face or if we dont follow Albani who said she allowed not to cover
I think we must follow Allah's words ( Qur'an )

I clarified what I mean many times !!
( youdnena alayhinna min jalabebihhn ) - from the Qur'an -
Means : Allah is telling the prophet MUhammad PBUH to tell the believing woman to ( youdnena alayhinna min jalabebihhn ) to put the jelbab ( cover ) from Up to Down of their bodies , that means includes the faces .

Everything is clear , the proofs from Qur'an say covering face is compulsary
If you still wanna follow the ( scholars ) it's ur problem ;)

Finally , Read this hadeeth please :)

Prophet (peace be on him): The halal is clear and the haram is clear. Between the two there are doubtful matters concerning which people do not know whether they are halal or haram. One who avoids them in order to safeguard his religion and his honor is safe, while if someone engages in a part of them he may be doing something haram, like one who grazes his animals near the hima (the grounds reserved for animals belonging to the King which are out of bounds for others' animals); it is thus quite likely that some of his animals will stray into it. Truly, every king has a hima, and the hima of Allah is what He has prohibited. (Reported by al-Bukhari' Muslim, and others; the narration is taken from al Tirmidhi.)

 

um_mustafa

sister in Islam
Salams Sister ,
At the moment this subject is very"HOT" in our house, I personally think it is good but I still dont think it is complusory, but my husband would like me to wear it,,,,,,, i dont want to go against his wishes but I dont also want to do some thing by force, oh what to do??????
w/salams Ameenah
 

cookiedough-123

Junior Member
well my husband said it is not compulsary.and just by wearing hijab,i already stop men from looking at me.when i wear khimar i look like 60 years old woman and of course man dont wanna look at 60 years old woman.lol
if i were like cleaoptra lol,perhaps my husband would hv asked me to wear it.so i guess he is right.
what i want to make sure is whether it is compulsary or not.whether ur beautiful or ugly u must wear it.that is what i want to make sure of.
when i go out i cover everything and my khimar is very long till down and i wear socks and hand socks.and no make up.so do u think i have obeyed Allah's rules?

and as far as am concern there is not fitnah so far alhamdulilah.and if there is a man who visits out house like his friends,i stay in the room and i dont go out.i know egypt is a muslim country yet i hv probnlem in wearing khimar because of the neighbours.i just want to practise islam peacefully.thats all


i completely understand sister . i know there is so much views on niqab and such such. i honesty belive in that hijab is a must wear. i live in a muslim country but im a revert from another country i get questions thrown at me why i dont wear flip flops and why i cover my feet and i do wear niqab when im goin out whenn i have makeup on only. cause makeup not allowed for my husband only.xx
 

revert2007

Love Fishing
i completely understand sister . i know there is so much views on niqab and such such. i honesty belive in that hijab is a must wear. i live in a muslim country but im a revert from another country i get questions thrown at me why i dont wear flip flops and why i cover my feet and i do wear niqab when im goin out whenn i have makeup on only. cause makeup not allowed for my husband only.xx

well i thought of wearing niqab when am going on the street to buy something and i might take it off infront my my close men relative like my husband's brother or his nephews.but my quran teacher said that if u wear niqab,u should wear it infront of all non mahram men and i cannot take it off.

i can't do it so strictly coz my husband won't allow it and i must eat lunch or dinner with them and thats gonna be difficult for me.

can anyone plz tell me,is it possible for me to wear niqab when i think it is really important and not to wear it strictly all the time?

if i can wear it part time,then inshaAllah am gonna get one just for me to use it when am out on the street.but if in the house there is close relative men that i know them very well,i am not gonna wear the niqab.but inshaAllah i will wear it infront of men that i don't know.

plz help me in answering this question.

p.s well men do talk to me on the street and stare at me coz they are wondering am from which country.if this happen,should i wear a niqab?i personally think i should but i would like to know ur answers.
 

muharram23

New Member
Staff member
Salamu alaykum

as I always mention that you guys should do a little search on this website before you open threads. Seriously, this issue of noiqab has been asked a million times. Mist topics on halal and haram have been asked about. That us why we have provided a search engine.

Next, it us important to know that when there is a difference of opinion in fiqh and it is normal that there will be, it is ok to choose the opionion which you feel is the stronger view. However, it is not correct to force ur view upon someone else and say that that view is better and should be followed and there is no other way.

The scholar of sunnah will differ in the matters of fiqh
but not in matters of aqidah. Having said that, there are scholars of sunnah who have the way of niqab being compulsory and not being compulasory and they do have proofs for what they say.

If there is difference of opinion than if a person does one or another there will not be harm as the person follows evidence. The prophets :saw: said in a narration that the scholars are the inheritors of prophets.

Thread will be closed to prevent arguments and debates. Search the website for this hijab/niqab and you will find more detail.

Wassalam
 
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