any idea about little girls's hobby?

ali_dan786

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Salam

My brother in law took his son to the boxing and swiming pool but his little girl stays at home with her mum.

i feel sorry for my neice so i told bro in law, he should take her to swiming pool but he is not happy cos if he take her then she might love it and what if she grows up she might keep swiming cos of e.g swiming pool underwear.

i want your advice what can she have fun or hobby? dancing? no its haraam lol, singing? no way! lol

Give me any ideas please

Jazakallah

W-salam
 

slaveofAllah88

Slave of Allah (swt)
Salam

My brother in law took his son to the boxing and swiming pool but his little girl stays at home with her mum.

i feel sorry for my neice so i told bro in law, he should take her to swiming pool but he is not happy cos if he take her then she might love it and what if she grows up she might keep swiming cos of e.g swiming pool underwear.

i want your advice what can she have fun or hobby? dancing? no its haraam lol, singing? no way! lol

Give me any ideas please

Jazakallah

W-salam

:salam2:

why cant she go swiming she is very young she should be able to enjoy all these things, aren't there women only swimming?
also take her to the park and let her enjoy, like she will probably like same stuff as the boy at this age,
 

Prosperous

asthagfirullah
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dancing is haram??, NO I don't think so. Dancing is practically same as other excercise, movement of body parts almost all, which helps very much for the development and growth of young ppl. I think dancing in public is the part which is haram. If you dance aerobically or by yourself at home, then its like an excercise.
The kid can have some computer games or collecting stuff as a hoby.
:wasalam:
 

mas_adi

Junior Member
:salam2:

Let your niece chose her own hobby according to her interest. But if her hobby is considered as 'haram hobby' or too expensive, you better give her an alternative.
 

IslamicGirl24

Junior Member
Salam

My brother in law took his son to the boxing and swiming pool but his little girl stays at home with her mum.

i feel sorry for my neice so i told bro in law, he should take her to swiming pool but he is not happy cos if he take her then she might love it and what if she grows up she might keep swiming cos of e.g swiming pool underwear.

i want your advice what can she have fun or hobby? dancing? no its haraam lol, singing? no way! lol

Give me any ideas please

Jazakallah

W-salam

But, the Prophet Muhammad SAW actually commanded the parents to teach their children how to swim! I am sure that applies to young girls as well..! Doesn't it??
 

Seeking Allah's Mercy

Qul HuwaAllahu Ahud!
:salam2:
i don't see what's wrong with letting her have what her brother gets.if her parents are worried she'd get bad habits or commit haraam later then they are worried for nothing cuz kids are thought what's right and wrong as they grow.i mean no girl wear niqaab as a kid.but she does later.so if the kid is told about haya and forbiden to wear nasty clothes later then what's the big deal.:)

btw why wouldn't they try burqinis out for her.they are nice and modest.:)

if not SWIMMING at all then let her try painting..........girls like playing with colours.get her pets to know more about animals...........animals are great.well that's what i used to like doing when i was a kid.dunno about your niece.:)
 

a_muslimah86

Hubbi Li Rabbi
Staff member
:salam2:
dancing is haram??, NO I don't think so. Dancing is practically same as other excercise, movement of body parts almost all, which helps very much for the development and growth of young ppl. I think dancing in public is the part which is haram. If you dance aerobically or by yourself at home, then its like an excercise.
The kid can have some computer games or collecting stuff as a hoby.
:wasalam:

Well sister...what do you need to dance?..most of the time (if not all the time)..you need..*music*...and what is the general scholarly consensus on music?..that it's haram...do you see where dancing would be troublesome to have as a hobby ukhti?

But, the Prophet Muhammad SAW actually commanded the parents to teach their children how to swim! I am sure that applies to young girls as well..! Doesn't it??

The hadith you are speaking of goes...

"Teach your children shooting (i.e. with a bows and arrows), swimming, and riding horses"...

It is normally cited as being narrated from Omar Ibn Al-Khattab with a narration status rated as *mawqoof*..and Bakr Bin Abdullah Al-Ansari..Jabir Bin Abdullah..Abi Rafe'e..and Ibn Omar with the narration status rated as *marfooe'e*...

The hadith altogether had been classified as following by these scholars (amongst many others not mentioned due to my not remembering them unfortunately!)...

- Weak by Ibn Hajar in the book "Al-Talkhees"

- Fabricated by Al-Tarablosiy (I cannot remember which book..if I am not mistaken..I think it was in "Al-Meezaan"..if I am wrong..please correct me!)

- Weak by Al-Dailamiy in the book "Masnad Al-Firdaws"

- Weak by Shaikh Al-Albani in the book "As-Silsila Ad-Dhaee'efa"

The words quoted as a hadith above..come not as *a hadith* but as a written recommendation from *Omar Ibn Al-Khattab* (radhiya Allaho 'anh)..which he wrote to *Abi 'Ubayd Ibn Aj-Jarraah* saying...

"Teach your children swimming, and fighting with the bow and arrow"

And this is cited by At-Tabaraniy..Ibn Al-Qayyim..Abu 'Uwanah..and Ali Bin Al-Jaa'ad

The *classification* of the hadith given earlier do not dismiss the fact that these things are not allowed Islamically...the information I have written are merely to let you know that *the wording* is not *authentic* and it is not a *hadith* so it should not be narrated as so..

But there *are* instances mentioning the virtue of the things mentioned..in-fact..

The virtue of learning to ride horses is cited in Sahih Bukhari..the virtue of this practice is confirmed further by Ibn Hajar in one of his scholarly researches..there are also multiple books by many scholars discussing this very topic in immense detail from every aspect...

The same applies for the virtue of learning to shoot with a bow and arrow..there are sahih hadiths in regards to it..and some scholars such as At-Tabarani..have assigned specific chapters and sections dedicated to this practice

As for swimming then there is a hadith specifying it a permissible activity for a Muslim..the hadith is as follows...

"Everything which is not a remembrance of Allah is a diversion except for four traits: A man walking between two errands, [him] discipling his horse, [him] amusing his wife, and [him] learning to swim" [cited as sahih by An-Nisae'ey in "'Eshrat An-Nisaa'a", and At-Tabaraniy in "Al-Kabeer"..amongst others]

I apologize for the lengthy post..and I hope you do not take it as my putting you under the spotlight (because that's not the case *at all*)...but I think we are all aware of the urgency of narrating from Rasulullah ('alayhi assalat was salam) only that which is *authentic* and *true*..and since I know this hadith is quite popular amongst Muslims (though it's weak)...hence my long detailing of the weakness of the hadith you may have wished to bring to everyone's attention ukhti..

As for the brother who inquired about teaching the little girl swimming..then perhaps you should review the following verdict..and make a decision based off it...


Women Swimming

Assalaamu alaikum wa rahmatullah
Are Women allowed to swim in a secluded place together?
If yes. How are they supposed to dress as any dress will stick to the body when wet. Please explain in detail
Wassalaam

Praise be to Allaah.
Anything that could be a source of temptation among women must be prevented. So their swimming in clothes that do not cover their ‘awrah (parts of the body which must be covered) properly because they stick to the body is something that is not allowed. If they swim in clothes that cover them, in a place far from the gaze of men, and cover themselves as soon as they come out of the water so that others will not see them in clothes that show the shape or colour of their ‘awrah, then there is nothing wrong with this so long as they adhere to the shar’i conditions. And Allaah knows best.

Islam Q&A
Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid

http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/1075/swimming
:wasalam:
 

safiya58

Junior Member
:salam2: sister

so boxing is not haram but dancing is.... hmmm....

the oppinions of schoolars regarding music are divided.

Once a delegation from Abyssinia visited the prophet s.a.w. And some members performed diffrent games and traditional dances in the inner yard. The prophet s.a.w. placed hisself infront of the door so that his wife Aisha r.a could also see the spectacle discreetly above his shoulders. (In an other version he s.a.w wraped her with his mantle so that she can watch the dances)

If I would have a babygirl I would send her to a bellydance course.

:wasalam:
 

IslamicGirl24

Junior Member
The hadith you are speaking of goes...

"Teach your children shooting (i.e. with a bows and arrows), swimming, and riding horses"...

It is normally cited as being narrated from Omar Ibn Al-Khattab with a narration status rated as *mawqoof*..and Bakr Bin Abdullah Al-Ansari..Jabir Bin Abdullah..Abi Rafe'e..and Ibn Omar with the narration status rated as *marfooe'e*...

The hadith altogether had been classified as following by these scholars (amongst many others not mentioned due to my not remembering them unfortunately!)...

- Weak by Ibn Hajar in the book "Al-Talkhees"

- Fabricated by Al-Tarablosiy (I cannot remember which book..if I am not mistaken..I think it was in "Al-Meezaan"..if I am wrong..please correct me!)

- Weak by Al-Dailamiy in the book "Masnad Al-Firdaws"

- Weak by Shaikh Al-Albani in the book "As-Silsila Ad-Dhaee'efa"

The words quoted as a hadith above..come not as *a hadith* but as a written recommendation from *Omar Ibn Al-Khattab* (radhiya Allaho 'anh)..which he wrote to *Abi 'Ubayd Ibn Aj-Jarraah* saying...

"Teach your children swimming, and fighting with the bow and arrow"

And this is cited by At-Tabaraniy..Ibn Al-Qayyim..Abu 'Uwanah..and Ali Bin Al-Jaa'ad

The *classification* of the hadith given earlier do not dismiss the fact that these things are not allowed Islamically...the information I have written are merely to let you know that *the wording* is not *authentic* and it is not a *hadith* so it should not be narrated as so..

But there *are* instances mentioning the virtue of the things mentioned..in-fact..

The virtue of learning to ride horses is cited in Sahih Bukhari..the virtue of this practice is confirmed further by Ibn Hajar in one of his scholarly researches..there are also multiple books by many scholars discussing this very topic in immense detail from every aspect...

The same applies for the virtue of learning to shoot with a bow and arrow..there are sahih hadiths in regards to it..and some scholars such as At-Tabarani..have assigned specific chapters and sections dedicated to this practice

As for swimming then there is a hadith specifying it a permissible activity for a Muslim..the hadith is as follows...

"Everything which is not a remembrance of Allah is a diversion except for four traits: A man walking between two errands, [him] discipling his horse, [him] amusing his wife, and [him] learning to swim" [cited as sahih by An-Nisae'ey in "'Eshrat An-Nisaa'a", and At-Tabaraniy in "Al-Kabeer"..amongst others]

I apologize for the lengthy post..and I hope you do not take it as my putting you under the spotlight (because that's not the case *at all*)...but I think we are all aware of the urgency of narrating from Rasulullah ('alayhi assalat was salam) only that which is *authentic* and *true*..and since I know this hadith is quite popular amongst Muslims (though it's weak)...hence my long detailing of the weakness of the hadith you may have wished to bring to everyone's attention ukhti..

Assalamu alaykum.
JazakAllah Khairan for telling me about this, sister. I was truly not aware about its authenticity.. I have read it in so many books that I thought it must be an authentic one. I really appreciate your writing such a detailed reply. May Allah swt bless you. Ameen.
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
Walaykumsalaam

Ruling on boxing

My local mosque is thinking about setting up boxing classes. I wanted to know whether this is permissibile. The reason being that is there not a hadith of the Prophet (SAW) where he sees two men wrestling/ sparring and he tells them to avoid the face for we have been created in the likeness of Adam (AS)? According to this, is it mub'ah to practice boxing with another brother and hit one another in the face?

Praise be to Allaah.

The Islamic sharee’ah permits all things that are beneficial to the body and do not harm it, and it forbids all things that may cause damage or harm to the body. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Your body has rights over you.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, Kitaab al-Sawm, 1839)

If sports are free from things which are forbidden in sharee’ah, then practising those sports is beneficial. Boxing is an ancient sport that was practised by the Greeks.

Boxing is the worst kind of sport, and probably it does not even deserve to be called a sport, despite the fact that western nations, in particular – where boxing is widespread at a professional level – call it “the noble sport” and a form of self-defence. They forget, or overlook, the fact that the main aim of boxing is to harm one's opponent and throw him to the ground, preferably with the “decisive blow” (or “knock-out”), as they call it, which is the highest level of victory in boxing.

“Many voices have been raised in the parliaments of many countries demanding a ban on professional boxing, in view of the harm that has been caused to many boxers. Sweden has succeeded in imposing such a ban, whilst many other nations have failed to do so, despite the many injuries, and even deaths, caused to many professional boxers as a direct result of this violent sport.

The fact of the matter is that the deaths of so many boxers is the reason for many voices calling for an end to this sport, or at least the imposition of strict rules to limit its violence.” (From Huna London magazine, issue # 413, March 1983).

Dr. Roger Whirty, the spokesman of the British Medical Council in Wales, spoke of the aims of the Council’s campaign against boxing: “We want to show everyone that boxing is an extremely dangerous sport, not only because of the increasing number of fatalities, but also because of the disabilities which affect many more times that number. In order to achieve that, we are trying to put pressure on various official bodies to condemn this sport, and not to consider it to be a sport at all. I reiterate once again that the danger of this sport lies in the harm caused to hundreds of boxers as a result of the disabilities that they suffer.

The number of boxers who have died as a result of injuries sustained in boxing between 1945 and 1983 is three hundred and fifty.” (From Huna London magazine, issue # 413, March 1983).

The Islamic attitude towards this sport:

The principles of Islam are completely opposed to the idea of the ummah accepting this dangerous deviation as a moral or intellectual trend which would permit such violent fights between members of the ummah or of the human race as a whole.

Among these principles we may list the following:

1. Harm. We have already mentioned the harm and danger to human life involved in this sport, and the testimony of western specialists who are motivated by their humanitarian feelings to fight and strive to eliminate boxing from the international sporting lexicon.

2. Violating the sanctity of the face. Boxing is based on allowing punches to the face of one's opponent using the maximum force that one possesses. Blows to the face earn more points than blows to any other part of the body. This clearly goes against the teaching of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), as narrated by Abu Hurayrah: “When any one of you fights, let him avoid (striking) the face.” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-Fath, 5/215).

Al-Haafiz said: “This prohibition also includes all those who are struck for the purpose of hadd or ta’zeer punishments or discipline. According to the hadeeth narrated by Abu Bakrah and others, which was recorded by Abu Dawood and others, about the woman who had committed adultery, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded that she should be stoned to death, and said, ‘Stone her, but avoid the face.’ (Narrated by Abu Dawood, 4/152). If that is the command in the case of one who is being punished and is going to die anyway, then the rule is even more applicable in cases of lesser severity.” See al-Fath, 5/216

Al-Nawawi said: “The scholars said: it is forbidden to strike the face because it is soft and all of a person's beauty and most of his senses are located there. If the face is hit, there is the fear that all or some of them may be destroyed or disfigured. Any defect in the face is a terrible thing because it is so prominent and obvious, and usually the person who is hit in the face will not be spared some disfigurement.” (al-Fath, 5/216).

In al-Fath, he says concerning the specific prohibition narrated in the hadeeth:

“Al-Nawawi did not discuss the details of this prohibition. It is clear that it is haraam, and this is supported by the hadeeth of Suwayd ibn Maqran al-Sahaabi, that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) saw a man slap a slave (or a boy) in the face, and he said, “Do you not know that the face is inviolate?” (Muslim, 3/1280.

Link : http://www.islam-qa.com/en/ref/10427
 
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