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:salam2: With all this talk about health care i wanted to ask a question about abortion. Since islamically Ruh is blown into the embryo after four months of being in the womb. Do you think it is ok for couples to have abortion before the 4th month. If yes why and if no why.
 

jamafg

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:salam2: With all this talk about health care i wanted to ask a question about abortion. Since islamically Ruh is blown into the embryo after four months of being in the womb. Do you think it is ok for couples to have abortion before the 4th month. If yes why and if no why.

Assalamu alaikum!

We should bear in our mind that abortion is totally haram and prohibited in Islam.
The only time we can do it is if the doctor advice and will say that the pregnancy is dangerous to the life of the pregnant woman.

Jazakum Allaho Khairan
 

muharram23

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Alamu alaykum

no one is qualified to give fatwah on issues like that here on website. See fatwas given by scholars on this issues. Good books to get is "fatawah islamiyah" Collected of the answering of big ulemah of this century such as shaykh Ibn baz, uthaimeen, ibn jibreen and others. So it is better to search About a matter From good books of scholars or authentic website before we turn and ask the common folks. Asking people for their opinion will not bring nothing but confusion and what people believe is correct. Just an advice. Taking knowledge is serous stuff and should be only taken from trustworthy skilled people. Just like when u search for a doctor, u look for reviews and what is said about them. U don't just trust anyone ur health. Same goes especially with our deen.

Allah knows best

Wassalam
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Sister I have counseled women who have had abortions. They suffer from depression. I have known women who will tell you ten years after the abortion that the child would have been so many years old.
A miscarriage can send a woman into severe depression. Compound that with the guilt of an abortion.

Most abortions are a result of casual sex. It makes little sense. Four months is sixteen weeks. Your body knows there is life. You are filled with Love.

I gave my answer.
 

Valerie

Junior Member
The issues I have with abortion are not the "casual sex" types. The pregnancy being a danger to the mother has already been mentioned. The other two types are rape and incest. Obviously those last two would not even be an issue if those types of violence didn't exist, but they do so...

I've read tons of websites about this because it was one of the issues that would turn me from Islam or bring me closer to it. All I can say is: Opinions vary.

Good luck finding an answer, if you do find one, I'd love to hear it :)
 

Happy 2BA Muslim

Islamophilic
:salam2: With all this talk about health care i wanted to ask a question about abortion. Since islamically Ruh is blown into the embryo after four months of being in the womb. Do you think it is ok for couples to have abortion before the 4th month. If yes why and if no why.


:wasalam:

It depends on the reason for the abortion.

I am a Maternal-Fetal Medicine consultant. I frequently come in contact with couples (husband and wife, of course) who have a deformed fetus and seriously consider abortion. This is the opinion that I follow and use when counselling them:

If it is proven in a definitive fashion, beyond any doubt, by a trustworthy medical committee, that the foetus is deformed, and that this deformity cannot be treated by the specialists, then in my view it is permissible to abort it, in view of the difficulties it would face in life and the hardship this would present to the parents, and the burdens and responsibilities of care it would place on the society. These considerations and others prompted the Islamic Fiqh Committee of the Muslim World League in its 12th conference held in Makkah on 15 Rajab 1410 AH (10/2/1990 CE), to issue the statement that “it is permissible to abort a foetus which is deformed in the manner mentioned above, with the consent of the parents and within the first 120 days from the beginning of the pregnancy.”

The decision of the committee was in accordance with the fatwa of the Standing Committee for Academic Research and Issuing Fatwas in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, no. 2484, issued on 16/7/1399 AH.

But if the soul has been breathed into the foetus and it has completed 120 days, then it is not permissible to abort it, no matter what the deformity, unless continuation of the pregnancy would put the mother’s life in danger. This is because after the soul has been breathed into the foetus, it is considered to be a person who must be protected, regardless of whether it is free of disease or not, and regardless of whether there is hope of recovery or not. That is because Allaah has a reason for everything that He creates, which many people do not know, and He knows best what is right for His creation, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Should not He Who has created know? And He is the Most Kind and Courteous (to His slaves), All Aware (of everything).

[al-Mulk 67:14]

http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/12118

We are talking about severe deformities here, and not about an extra finger or toe.

:salam2:
 

sarahlou

Junior Member
Ruling on aborting a pregnancy in the early stages​
What is the ruling on aborting a pregnancy in the early months (1-3) before the soul is breathed into the foetus?.

Praise be to Allaah. The Council of Senior Scholars issued the following statement:
1 – It is not permissible to abort a pregnancy at any stage unless there is a legitimate reason, and within very precise limits.
2 – If the pregnancy is in the first stage, which is a period of forty days, and aborting it serves a legitimate purpose or will ward off harm, then it is permissible to abort it. But aborting it at this stage for fear of the difficulty of raising children or of being unable to bear the costs of maintaining and educating them, or for fear for their future or because the couple feel that they have enough children – this is not permissible.
3 – It is not permissible to abort a pregnancy when it is an ‘alaqah (clot) or mudghah (chewed lump of flesh) (which are the second and third periods of forty days each) until a trustworthy medical committee has decided that continuing the pregnancy poses a threat to the mother’s wellbeing, in that there is the fear that she will die if the pregnancy continues. It is permissible to abort it once all means of warding off that danger have been exhausted.
4 – After the third stage, and after four months have passed, it is not permissible to abort the pregnancy unless a group of trustworthy medical specialists decide that keeping the foetus in his mother’s womb will cause her death, and that should only be done after all means of keeping the foetus alive have been exhausted. A concession is made allowing abortion in this case so as to ward off the greater of two evils and to serve the greater of two interests.


Al-Fataawa al-Jaami’ah, 3/1056

http://www.islamqa.com/en/ref/42321
 

Happy 2BA Muslim

Islamophilic
:salam2:

This is also in agreement with the ruling I posted above (with regards to rape):

What is the ruling on a woman seeking an abortion to terminate a pregancy that came as a result of rape or adultery?

Answered by Sheikh Ibrâhîm Rahîm, professor at al-Imam University, Qasîm Branch

If this pregnancy came about as a result of rape and is still within its first first four months, then abortion will be allowed if it is determined that the pregnancy may effect the mother’s physical or psychological health by imposing upon her a situation that she cannot bear, especially in the absence of social support.

This permissibility lessens gradually. It is more permissible in the early part of the four months - the first 40 days - then it will be in the second and third forty days.

However, if the pregnancy resulted from consensual adultery, then it is impermissible for her to have an abortion, even at this early stage. There are numerous evidences for this, but I cannot list all of them in such a brief answer. One of these evidences is the story of the woman from the Ghâmidî tribe who during the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him) committed adultery and fell pregnant. She was spared punishment until the time the child was born and nursed for the full term. Only then was the prescribed punishment carried out upon her.

The logic of this ruling is that the consequences of an unlawful act (adultery) should not be used as a pretext to make lawful something else that is unlawful (abortion), since indeed abortion is unlawful except under the most extraordinary circumstances. If this option were made lawful under such circumstances, it will be opening the doors to further abuses.

Contemporary scholars have voiced their agreement on this issue in all of the many of the international Islamic Law conferences that have been convened. It is also the ruling issued by the Supreme Council of Scholars here in Saudi Arabia. This ruling complies with the broad principles of Islamic law.

www.islamtoday.com

:salam2:
 

Valerie

Junior Member
Yeah this gives me a lot to think about. I'll step out now because obviously this is one of those topics where I need to.
 

fada_all

Junior Member
salam alikum wa rahmatu allah taala wa barakatuh


it is forbidden of course in islam and we have the prove in the holy Qu'an when allah swt said in the meaning ,, it is not allowed to kill your muslim....

just look in the quran every thing is explained if you don't get my message plz tell me i will insha allah explain to you in detail


ur sis khadijah
 

jamafg

Junior Member
Alamu alaykum

no one is qualified to give fatwah on issues like that here on website. See fatwas given by scholars on this issues. Good books to get is "fatawah islamiyah" Collected of the answering of big ulemah of this century such as shaykh Ibn baz, uthaimeen, ibn jibreen and others. So it is better to search About a matter From good books of scholars or authentic website before we turn and ask the common folks. Asking people for their opinion will not bring nothing but confusion and what people believe is correct. Just an advice. Taking knowledge is serous stuff and should be only taken from trustworthy skilled people. Just like when u search for a doctor, u look for reviews and what is said about them. U don't just trust anyone ur health. Same goes especially with our deen.

Allah knows best

Wassalam


We don't need to have a fatwa for every single issue.
The real Muslim who follow Quran and Sunnah, have Alhamdulillah answer to all most of our questions in Holly Quran and Ahadith Al Nabawi Al Sahi.
This days there are more than 1000 different groups who claim them self as the best of Ummah, and they talking nonsense, but we shouldn't listen to them, because they are the enemies of Islam.
We should only follow the guidance of Allah SWT in the Holly Quran and Ahadiths of beloved prophet Mohammad PBUH.
Inshallah
 

jamafg

Junior Member
Please seek a Scholars advise on this issue if your looking for a answer under the rulings of Islam.

We don't have to go to Scholar, because Alhamdulillah we have our Holly Quran and Sunnatul Rasoul PBUH for guidance.
No one can give us the best answer than the Quran and Ahadiths.
 

Kakorot

Junior Member
We don't have to go to Scholar, because Alhamdulillah we have our Holly Quran and Sunnatul Rasoul PBUH for guidance.
No one can give us the best answer than the Quran and Ahadiths.

:salam2:

Not everyone knows what is in the Qur'aan and Sunnah, and so that is why we have qualified shuyukh who preach the texts of Islam.
 

Abu Talib

Feeling low
We don't have to go to Scholar, because Alhamdulillah we have our Holly Quran and Sunnatul Rasoul PBUH for guidance.
No one can give us the best answer than the Quran and Ahadiths.

Okay tell me can is it permissible to kill a Mosquito or not? It would be a sin because its a creation of ALLAH can you answer that using your own knowledge?

The Scholars don't give advise from the science book they use Quran and Hadith as you mentioned
 

jamafg

Junior Member
:salam2:

Not everyone knows what is in the Qur'aan and Sunnah, and so that is why we have qualified shuyukh who preach the texts of Islam.

This is the main problem. Why as a Muslim we shouldn't know what is in the Quran. We need a little spare time to make our knowledge better, by reading the Holly Quran and Ahadiths Nabawi.
Do you think that we should go to Sheikh for every single question? Also be very careful, you can only go the a sheikh that you know him very well.
 

jamafg

Junior Member
Okay tell me can is it permissible to kill a Mosquito or not? It would be a sin because its a creation of ALLAH can you answer that using your own knowledge?

The Scholars don't give advise from the science book they use Quran and Hadith as you mentioned

I can be myself a Scholar. Allah SWT has giving everyone the Brain, so we should use it.
I'll never answer to any of questions without knowing the correct answer from the Holly Quran and Ahadiths Nabawi.
For asking a sheikh I should know the sheikh back ground very well, otherwise I can easily make a big mistake, especially when you live in a none Muslim Country. But I really don't have any problem to refer to the Holly Quran and Authentic Ahadiths for finding answer to my every day’s questions.
 

Abu Talib

Feeling low
I can be myself a Scholar. Allah SWT has giving everyone the Brain, so we should use it.
I'll never answer to any of questions without knowing the correct answer from the Holly Quran and Ahadiths Nabawi.
For asking a sheikh I should know the sheikh back ground very well, otherwise I can easily make a big mistake, especially when you live in a none Muslim Country. But I really don't have any problem to refer to the Holly Quran and Authentic Ahadiths for finding answer to my every day’s questions.

Take your time I will be waiting for your answer and tell me every one can read and learn so does it mean we don't require Scholars?. And here on TTI we use references from great Scholars like Shiekh Bin Baaz, Shiekh Salih Ibn Uthaymeen Rahimullah and from Isamqa.
These Scholars have devoted there whole life studying Islam that's the difference between them and us.

Mirajmom did mention right about you it seems your a child.
 
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