MahyarEL-Prince
Studying Islam...
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah, it's mahyar again !
Anyways i wanted to ask a serious question that I have failed to get a good answer on. I'm not sure how many of you guys have really put some thought in this and perhaps it may need a scholar for an acceptable answer. But inshallah' I will still pose it.
The man/women who is guilty of fornication is to be stoned to death. This is the law of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, no different then the law of the torrah. And Allah is not one to change his laws, and Allah's law is the law of the righteous. In our lands we don't want Zina and it is beest for us inshallah.
What I want to know is how do you find someone guilty for this act? Scholars and im 95 % sure the Quran says produce 4 witnesses to testify of seeing the act. And if the witnesses are proven of false testimony, then lash each of them with 80 lashes, show no remorse in your lashing and never accept from them any testimony. This testimony should be taken from people who are accepted in the community as being truthful and not people who just came out of jail and what not.
Now i wanted to emphasize on the fact that 4 people need to see with their own eyes, the private parts of the two parties meeting. I really have a hard time believing 4 people walked on on some people committing fornication.. It's almost like a miracle if that ever happenened. lol
Besides that, what if ..... I the husband, caught someone in bed with my wife, but there is no one else there? what if the guy ran away, and my wife never admits it? I could never get her punished, because im missing 3 other people.. The Quran/hadith speicifcally says 4 , not blood samples or anything it says 4 eye witnesses..
Now I read something on fiqh, it said it's also permissbile if the people admit to doing the act.. Let me ask you a serious question, who in their right mind would ever admit of doing this act? Why would they get stoned to death and then know they would meet their lord for eternal hell fire? Would they not just lie and seek Allah's forgivness until they are called to death?
I would love to hear your views, I would love to know how these stonings happen in other countries, do they actually have 4 witnesses seeing it? I remember some lady admitted to it in Iran recently , why the hell did she admit it? did she think they were going to show remorse? Im not going to say yes Lie but does it make sense to tell the truth , die and go to hell? Or do you get some benifits for telling the truth?
Jazakallahu khair for the read, I would love to hear an intellegent/non emotional answer inshallah and sorry for the legnth of the post but it's really on my mind and I can't come up with a logical answer !
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barkaatoh
Anyways i wanted to ask a serious question that I have failed to get a good answer on. I'm not sure how many of you guys have really put some thought in this and perhaps it may need a scholar for an acceptable answer. But inshallah' I will still pose it.
The man/women who is guilty of fornication is to be stoned to death. This is the law of Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, no different then the law of the torrah. And Allah is not one to change his laws, and Allah's law is the law of the righteous. In our lands we don't want Zina and it is beest for us inshallah.
What I want to know is how do you find someone guilty for this act? Scholars and im 95 % sure the Quran says produce 4 witnesses to testify of seeing the act. And if the witnesses are proven of false testimony, then lash each of them with 80 lashes, show no remorse in your lashing and never accept from them any testimony. This testimony should be taken from people who are accepted in the community as being truthful and not people who just came out of jail and what not.
Now i wanted to emphasize on the fact that 4 people need to see with their own eyes, the private parts of the two parties meeting. I really have a hard time believing 4 people walked on on some people committing fornication.. It's almost like a miracle if that ever happenened. lol
Besides that, what if ..... I the husband, caught someone in bed with my wife, but there is no one else there? what if the guy ran away, and my wife never admits it? I could never get her punished, because im missing 3 other people.. The Quran/hadith speicifcally says 4 , not blood samples or anything it says 4 eye witnesses..
Now I read something on fiqh, it said it's also permissbile if the people admit to doing the act.. Let me ask you a serious question, who in their right mind would ever admit of doing this act? Why would they get stoned to death and then know they would meet their lord for eternal hell fire? Would they not just lie and seek Allah's forgivness until they are called to death?
I would love to hear your views, I would love to know how these stonings happen in other countries, do they actually have 4 witnesses seeing it? I remember some lady admitted to it in Iran recently , why the hell did she admit it? did she think they were going to show remorse? Im not going to say yes Lie but does it make sense to tell the truth , die and go to hell? Or do you get some benifits for telling the truth?
Jazakallahu khair for the read, I would love to hear an intellegent/non emotional answer inshallah and sorry for the legnth of the post but it's really on my mind and I can't come up with a logical answer !
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barkaatoh
