Can Muslims say "Salam" to Non Muslims??

Aroosak

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Congradulations on your new color! Happy Orange day to you!! lol!

Aww that was so sweet sis Jen ... I can honestly say I am enjoying every minute here at tti and even though today I had my first 'confrontation' I can see past it all and appreciate all the great posts :D
 

IHearIslam

make dua 4 ma finals
JazakhAllah kheir for this info

What about returning salaams to others of the opposite sex. I know many sisters me included that have experienced men saying salams to them just for the purpose of either being noticed by the sisters or Allah knows. I am not saying all men do that but I think sometimes some non-muslim use it as a way to flirt with a sister or something. In this instance do we just ignore their salaams? What about if it is a Muslim from the opposite gender?

Assalaamu alaikum everyone,

Sister, its an obligation upon every Muslim to return the salaam. So, when someone says salaam to you, you quickly say "walaikum salam", and walk away there is no time to flirt and you're showing them that you're a dignified woman. I have this issue mainly from "Muslim" brothers. So I just say the salaam back, walk away and never look at them. Just dont give them time to talk to you thats all. You shall be fine insha'Allaah.
Also, NEVER EVER initiate the salaam to a brother! NEVER, unless you are gunna ask him something. But for us sisters.....please shower some of your salaams on us;) thank you!

I hope I answered your question.....

btw....off topic and random, your username is kind of unique. Aroosak, does it have a meaning? what language is it? just wondering,:hearts:
 

IHearIslam

make dua 4 ma finals
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Who are Abu Jahl bin Hisham, or with Umar bin al-Khattab?

sister Jen,

They were the companions of the prophet (peace be upon him)....(well, atleast the one who accepted Islam..Umar) and after the prophet made that Dua, Allaah guided Umar bin Al-khattab to Islam. He was a victory to our deen since he was the strongest most feared man in Arabia at the time. May Allaah be pleased with him. ameen

Abu Jahl......He was the father of ignorance. Maybe you should do a little research on both of them?;) I dont think he is worth mentioning.
 

JenGiove

Junior Member
Aww that was so sweet sis Jen ... I can honestly say I am enjoying every minute here at tti and even though today I had my first 'confrontation' I can see past it all and appreciate all the great posts :D

:salam2:

As you may have noticed sister, I'm pretty well versed in "confrontations" here on TTI... :) Being one of the very few non-Muslims on this site kinda makes you stand out and its not like I'm looking to revert either so that just makes a person a little more of a conundrum.
 

Shishani

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JazakhAllah kheir for this info

What about returning salaams to others of the opposite sex. I know many sisters me included that have experienced men saying salams to them just for the purpose of either being noticed by the sisters or Allah knows. I am not saying all men do that but I think sometimes some non-muslim use it as a way to flirt with a sister or something. In this instance do we just ignore their salaams? What about if it is a Muslim from the opposite gender?
Shaykh Muqbil (rahimahullah) (big scholar from Yemen) was asked this question. There are other fatawa, but this is the one I remembered.
If he thinks that giving salaam will lead to fitnah for him or her, then he should not do it. If he thinks there will be no fitnah, in that case there's problem saying it.
It's obligatory to answer (for the woman), and it's the same for her, - if she fears there will be fitnah, she answers "in herself" (not speaking), or she moves her lips with some noise that he doesn't hear. But if she doesn't fear fitnah, or she is a mahram of his, then there's no problem in saying it.
But if there can be fitnah, then there's nothing more important than keeping the heart safe (from temptation).
 

DanyalSAC

Junior Member
that's not a problem, brother.
When they give you salaam - answer it with a salaam. Whether it be a jew, christian, hindu, anyone, or a muslim.
We're talking about initiating the greeting with a salaam, which is only for Muslims.

Ah it seems to me the thread was about both... but thank you.
 

Aroosak

Junior Member
Assalaamu alaikum everyone,

Sister, its an obligation upon every Muslim to return the salaam. So, when someone says salaam to you, you quickly say "walaikum salam", and walk away there is no time to flirt and you're showing them that you're a dignified woman. I have this issue mainly from "Muslim" brothers. So I just say the salaam back, walk away and never look at them. Just dont give them time to talk to you thats all. You shall be fine insha'Allaah.
Also, NEVER EVER initiate the salaam to a brother! NEVER, unless you are gunna ask him something. But for us sisters.....please shower some of your salaams on us;) thank you!

I hope I answered your question.....

btw....off topic and random, your username is kind of unique. Aroosak, does it have a meaning? what language is it? just wondering,:hearts:

JazakhAllah kheir sis
this covered half of my question and alhamdulillah I could say I have mastered the salam and run! Also I never initiate salaam to a brother and just return the salaam without giving any stance for him to approach me. Something that bothers me is when I say salaams to a sister or smile and my greetings are returned with glares and silence! Astagfirullah what's up with that? may Allah put more humbleness in our hearts inshAllah
Ps. is just the farsi version of a nickname I had as a kid.. is kind of silly lol :D

:salam2:

As you may have noticed sister, I'm pretty well versed in "confrontations" here on TTI... :) Being one of the very few non-Muslims on this site kinda makes you stand out and its not like I'm looking to revert either so that just makes a person a little more of a conundrum.

I totally understand your point, and I actually welcome healthy debate and people disagreeing with my opinions. We are here to learn from each other and improve ourselves in the process inshAllah. What gets to me is just random rumors and things that can only create drama... they should leave that for the talk shows ... ;)


Shaykh Muqbil (rahimahullah) (big scholar from Yemen) was asked this question. There are other fatawa, but this is the one I remembered.
If he thinks that giving salaam will lead to fitnah for him or her, then he should not do it. If he thinks there will be no fitnah, in that case there's problem saying it.
It's obligatory to answer (for the woman), and it's the same for her, - if she fears there will be fitnah, she answers "in herself" (not speaking), or she moves her lips with some noise that he doesn't hear. But if she doesn't fear fitnah, or she is a mahram of his, then there's no problem in saying it.
But if there can be fitnah, then there's nothing more important than keeping the heart safe (from temptation).

JazakhAllah kheir
This was actually very helpful. Most of the times I say my salams back in a very low voice if it is a brother and as always we should avoid creating fitnah in all aspects of our lives.
May Allah protect us all from the fitnah of this life and purify our intentions.... Ameen ...
 

helpinghumanity

Junior Member
:salam2:

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Who are Abu Jahl bin Hisham, or with Umar bin al-Khattab?

Wa-alaikumus salam

You made me smile..lol..:)

You got to know Umar Bin Khattab. If you don't know him, then trust me you are missing some thing great from your life.

Recently I finished listening the series. Umar Bin Khattab: His life and times which was in English (like good English lol). If I had to describe that series in One word, then i would say "Marvelous".

Here is the link for the series..Enjoy..Trust me you would LOVEeeee IT..


I posted few threads about Umar Bin Khattab. Maybe you would like to read them before listening to the series.

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73937

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74497

http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=74763
 

sandra canada

Laa ilaha illa Allah
Assalamu alaykum.

He is bringing "evidences" not supported by other ahadeeth and the sayings of the great Imams about this subject.
No, it is not allowed to start the greeting of "salaam" to someone who is not a Muslim. To greet him with something else than the "salaam" is something different. Insha-Allah there's no problem in that.


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Greeting a kaafir first
Is it permissible for a Muslim to great a non-Muslim first?.​

Praise be to Allaah.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked about the ruling on greeting non-Muslims. He replied as follows:

Greeting a non-Muslim first is haraam and is not permitted, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Do not initiate the greeting with the Jews and Christians, and if you meet them in the street push them towards the narrowest part of it.” But if they greet us we have to respond to them, because of the general meaning of the verse in which Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“When you are greeted with a greeting, greet in return with what is better than it, or (at least) return it equally” [al-Nisa’ 4:86]

The Jews used to greet the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) by saying, “Al-saam ‘alaykum ya Muhammad (Death be upon you, O Muhammad),” praying that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) would die. So the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Jews say ‘al-saam ‘alaykum (death be upon you),’ so if they greet you, then say, ‘Wa ‘alaykum (and also upon you).’”

If a non-Muslim greets a Muslim by saying “al-saamu ‘alaykum,” then we should respond by saying “wa ‘alaykum (and also upon you).” The fact that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said “wa ‘alaykum” indicates that if they were saying “al-salaamu ‘alaykum (peace be upon you),” then peace will also be upon them, i.e., whatever they say to us, we say to them. Hence some of the scholars said that if a Jew, Christian or other non-Muslim clearly says “al-salaamu ‘alaykum,” it is permissible for us to say “ ‘alaykum al-salaam (upon you be peace).”

Similarly it is not permissible to initiate a greeting such as Ahlan wa sahlan (welcome) and the like, because that is a kind of honouring them. But if they say something like that to us, then we should say something similar to them, because the greeting should be returned in like manner and each person should be given his due. It is well known that the Muslims are higher in status before Allaah, so they should not humiliate themselves in front of non-Muslims by greeting them first.

So, in conclusion, it is not permissible for us to greet non-Muslims first, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade that, and because this is a humiliation for the Muslim when he starts to honour a non-Muslim. The Muslim is higher in status before Allaah, so he should not humiliate himself in this manner. But if we are greeted then we should return the greeting in similar terms.

Similarly it is not permissible for us to greet them first with words such as Ahlan wa sahlan (welcome), Marhaban (hello) and so on, because that is a kind of honouring them, so it is like initiating the greeting of salaams with them. Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 3/33.

If there is a need to greet a kaafir first, there is no sin in that, but it should be something other than the greeting of salaam, such as saying Ahlan wa sahlan or How are you, etc. In that case the greeting is for a reason, not to honour him.

See al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah, 25/168.

Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in Zaad al-Ma’aad (2/424), concerning greeting a kaafir first:

A group of scholars said: It is permissible to greet him first if that serves a purpose, or for fear of his harm, or because of blood ties, or for a reason that requires that.

And Allaah knows best.
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May Allah bless you
JAZAK Allah khayran brother for spreading the right sunnah
 

hayat84

I'm not what you believe
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just to spend two words,if someone greets me with his/her greeting such as "buongiorno,salve",I answer in italian depending from the age of the person and the situation,but about"ciao,Hallo",I prefere to respond with "salam"because it's my muslim greeting.if I'd greet a non-muslim with his/her greeting,I'would accept his/her way to talk,and me,I maintain my own place making know that I don't fear nor ashame to say "salam",because it's a beautiful word and sincere way to say "peace":hijabi:
 
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