Is my prayer valid?

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hayat84

I'm not what you believe
:salam2:
today,while I was praying Salat al 'Asr,it happened that the milk in my breast started coming out,wetting my clothes.it had never happened before and I'm worried about the validity of my prayer.can please someone find any answers about the milk discharge during the prayer?it's a natural event that couldn't be stopped,but I wish to know if I have to repeat the prayer again.:wasalam:
 

ShyHijabi

Junior Member
:salam2:

Sister,
I have searched high and low and cannot find a fatwa stating that breast milk breaks your wudu. Good thing too since I have the same problem.
 

Ershad

Junior Member
:wasalam:

I just came across a link regarding which discharges require Wudu' or Ghusl. And it is also good to read the Hadith regarding wudu' (it is not really explicit) and make your conclusions from it if you don't really believe the links.



Jazakallahu Khair!

[Seriously I am clueless about these. I just helped you with Google search. I am sorry if it is inappropriate. or remove the post if the links I gave are incorrect]
 

dilek

OntheWayOf ALLAH
Assalam Alaykum ya sister
I ve had a quick search and I just could find in Turkish. It says the milk is not najess ( dirty) so it doesnt break the wodou, if it comes by itself or the mom gives milk to the baby doesnt matter the wodou is still valid. however it doesnt state anything about breaking the salaat or not.

Allahu 3leem
 

Happy 2BA Muslim

Islamophilic
:salam2: Sisters,

Congratulations!!! :)

Breast milk does not invalidate wudu, nor does it invalidate prayer. It is considered "tahir", meaning pure.

Breast milk and wudu


Breast milk and prayer

Sorry! The second link is only in Arabic, but it can be summarized to say that it doesn't break the wudu, and that it is permissible to pray in clothes that have been soiled by breast milk.

So no need to repeat wudu or prayer if milk comes out on the clothes.

:salam2:
 

hayat84

I'm not what you believe
ok brothers/sisters,thank you for the clarification.you were as good help for me.how good this forum is,mashallah!!!:ma:
 

Idris16

Junior Member
One of The Latest Fatwas by IslamQA

Praise be to Allaah.​

Mother’s milk is taahir (pure) according to according to the consensus of the scholars, may Allah have mercy on them.

It says in Haashiyat al-Qalyoobi (may Allah have mercy on him), 1/81:​

The milk of any animal whose flesh may be eaten is taahir (pure). Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “pure milk; palatable to the drinkers” [an-Nahl 16:66]. The same applies to human milk, because it is not appropriate, due to its honoured status, that it should be of impure (najis) in origin and nature. End quote.

An-Nawawi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:​

Human milk is taahir (pure) according to our madhhab [i.e., the madhhab of Imam ash-Shaafa‘i], and this is the definitive view of our companions except the author of al-Haawi, who narrated from al-Anmaati that it is impure and it is only permissible for infants to drink it because of necessity.

But this is an invalid view; rather it is an obvious mistake, and things like this are narrated so as to refute them. Shaykh Abu Haamid narrated that there is consensus among the Muslims that it is taahir.

End quote from Sharh al-Muhadhdhab, 2/587​

Al-Mardaawi (may Allah have mercy on him):​

Milk of humans and animals that may be eaten is taahir, and there is no scholarly conflict on this point.

End quote from al-Insaaf, 1/343​

Once it is proven that it is taahir, it is permissible to pray wearing clothes that have got milk on them, even if they have not been washed, because it is taahir, so it is like any other taahir substance.

Secondly:

Secretion of milk from the mother’s breast does not invalidate wudoo’. This has been explained previously in the answer to question no. 74901.

And Allah knows best.​
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Aapa

Mirajmom
Asalaam walaikum,

I am going to suggest that sisters watch how they phrase questions. Sister, please you have more than one child. There are many products that women use for emergencies. Your doctor/physician assistant or nurse should have educated you about them.

Sister, has your husband read this post? Does he know that you have announced to the world you had a spill while praying.

Lets move this to the sister section.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,.


I agree people are very up-tight.

I am not trying to be sanctimonious. In fact I tend to be very lenient.

Let me justify for you why I wrote my comments. They had nothing to do with you.

Lately, it has occurred to me that many sisters write issues on the website that we need to rethink. Do you really want to announce something that is on public that may cause embarrassment to your spouse.

I ask the sisters does your husband know what you are writing. What would he say if he read your question.

I am in no way nor do I have the authority to chastise anyone.

In today's world we have nursing pads. They have been around a long time. So when a woman is breastfeeding her child, which is the best thing to do, keep the pads around. Use a breast pump so you are not so filled with milk.
But as I wrote earlier these issues can be addressed to a physician.

And remember this is cultural too. In my culture that is a gross out. You clean yourself and change immediately.

Sister Hayat...this is not personal. My response is very general. My response is to get sisters to think a little harder.
 

thariq2005

Praise be to Allah!
Assalaamu `alaykum

May Allaah increase you in good and reward you for your noble intentions.

Firstly, I don't mind people joking around etc. As long as they are not lying or crossing the bounds.

Secondly, the 'joke' was not funny at all- rather it was not appropriate at all to say that to someone of the opposite gender.

Thirdly, as a man with gheerah (protective jealousy)- if someone said that to my wife, sister or mother then I would physically harm them. It is so not right for a brother to say something like that to his own sister, let alone a non-mahram who is not related to him. [I am referring to the last sentence in your post]

I understand that you are a revert and that- and I ask Allaah to increase you in beneficial knowledge and make you from the people of Jannah.

I will ask the sister mods to view the deleted message and ask them to reply on the 'appropriateness' of the joke.

As I mentioned previously- joking is not a problem. But one should know his limits as to who he is joking with and where.

Wassalaamu `alaykum
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Brother,

I am being protective here. Hear me out.

Modesty is part and parcel of iman. In this day and time there are many options.

The LeLeche League is an international organization that helps women with the issues of breastfeeding. They have 24 hour hot-lines. Prior to delivery a woman is briefly educated on what to do. After delivery there are nurses, doctors, PA's , and social workers.

When the questions arise for intimate concerns sisters go to older sisters. Why burden a scholar on issues that he has little experience in. A male scholar has not the slightest idea of what a woman is going through. He makes a decision on the wetness of the fabric of what she is wearing.
Ask a sister and she will tell you..if your breast is that full..suck the child first.

Does the hadeeth not state we take care of the calls of nature before we pray.

My concern is serious. Would you want the world to know that your wife is overflowing with milk? No, brother, that is not for public knowledge. I wish to protect sisters from this.
 

Happy 2BA Muslim

Islamophilic
Assalaam walaikum,

Brother,

I am being protective here. Hear me out.

Modesty is part and parcel of iman. In this day and time there are many options.

The LeLeche League is an international organization that helps women with the issues of breastfeeding. They have 24 hour hot-lines. Prior to delivery a woman is briefly educated on what to do. After delivery there are nurses, doctors, PA's , and social workers.

When the questions arise for intimate concerns sisters go to older sisters. Why burden a scholar on issues that he has little experience in. A male scholar has not the slightest idea of what a woman is going through. He makes a decision on the wetness of the fabric of what she is wearing.
Ask a sister and she will tell you..if your breast is that full..suck the child first.

Does the hadeeth not state we take care of the calls of nature before we pray.

My concern is serious. Would you want the world to know that your wife is overflowing with milk? No, brother, that is not for public knowledge. I wish to protect sisters from this.

:salam2: Sister Aapa,

Please allow me to disagree with you on this one.

The Sister's question was simple. Her question was on the ruling of her clothes being contaminated with breast milk, and if her prayer was valid. Alhamdulillah, she got the answer.

This type of question is best to be directed to scholars or Islamic students of knowledge. They are the ones able to answer halal and haram questions.

On the contrary, physicians or other healthcare workers specialized in breastfeeding (like lactating nurses) would not be able to answer our Sister's question. But they would be better in counselling new moms on how to breastfeed, what to do, and what not to do. I am a Maternal-Fetal Medicine consultant, and believe me, the majority of specialists who interact with breastfeeding mothers would not be able to answer our Sister's question.

Another thing. May Allah subhanahu wa taala reward you immensely for your protectiveness of our Sisters! I think we should all have this sense of "gheerah (jealousy)" for our Sisters.

:salam2:
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
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Assalamu'alaykum wa rahmatullaah,

I'll just get straight to the point..

Sisters,

The answers to many issues can be found without necessarily posting personal situations and personal descriptions like this!

Don't anyone say 'Oh but there is no hayaa when it comes to seeking knowledge' and then use the example of the Ansaari women ..ofcourse this is true but consider:

Who complimented the Ansaari women on their determination to seek knowledge in spite of possible shyness about certain issues? Aishah radiAllaahu anha, a woman. Why? Because many times, they would come and ask her and she would seek these answers from Rasulullaah :saw2: and let them know.

I highly doubt that when Rasulullaah :saw2: was consulted about womens issues he actually knew which woman asked which question. Aishah radiAllaahu anha would have no doubt preserved their anonymity when seeking certain answers, this only makes sense!

You could argue, well this is an anonymous place, surely its the same? Well no, we are very much a community with 'known' personalities, to post personal issues like this in the public forum pertaining to one particular gender is highly inappropriate.

Seek knowledge and don’t let shyness prevent you but be tactful in how you express yourselves, go to the right places, we have a sisters only forum for a good reason, (also IslamQA searches and other useful sites where many such questions have already been asked and answered) and even then, you should only personalise things if its absolutely necessary.
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The secondary cause of concern is the 'joke'..

Revert2010:- The world is not corrupt because people don't laugh enough, the world is corrupt because people laugh at anything and everything, and everything has the potential to be 'funny'

In Islaam there is a space to express your sense of humour, our beloved Prophet peace be upon him had a sense of humour and this is well recorded. Not the point here though.

The comment you considered a joke is a breach of the boundaries of shame and modesty in conduct, expected from muslim men, towards muslim women.

I am sure that from spending time with Muslims, in Islaamic environments, this concept will soon be like second nature to you and you will someday perhaps think 'I cannot believe I said that at the time ..' this is one of the more subtle characteristics of an Islaamic personality which develops with time.
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And I reiterate, I blame the sisters first and foremost, if you want to protect your shame and dignity then the cards are in your own hands to start off with.

This could have been prevented and what happened here is quite an unfortunate occurrence.

May Allaah have mercy on us all.

Wa-salaam
 
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