Can a woman marry who ever she wants ?

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
Salam aleykum dear brothers and sisters

There are some discussions lately that people are separated in 2 groups...some say a muslim woman can marry only a muslim, some say she can marry who she wants that there is no proof in Quran for this prohibition.

Myself, i understand why there is the view that a man is the leader and provider of the house, also in theory he remains with the kids in case of divorce so only he is allowed to marry a woman from other religion....but today women have more options and more power of decision, many provide just as much as the husband and even more,are serious and aware in living islam 24/7 so is hard to understand why can not have the same rights if we are equal ?
I think such a mixed situation will be very very hard esp. for the kids, will be confusing, but i want to have a correct view.
Can you provide some help inshallah ?

May Allah bless you all.
 

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
All jurists agreed that a Muslim man or woman may not marry a mushrik [one who associates partners with God--there is a complex and multi-layered discourse on who is to be considered a mushrik, but we will leave this for a separate discussion]. However, because of al-Ma'ida verse 5, there is an exception in the case of a Muslim man marrying a kitabiyya. There is no express prohibition in the Qur'an or elsewhere about a Muslim woman marrying a kitabi. However, the jurists argued that since express permission was given to men, by implication women must be prohibited from doing the same. The argument goes: If men needed to be given express permission to marry a kitabiyya, women needed to be given express permission as well, but since they were not given any such permission then they must be barred from marrying a kitabi.
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I have read this, but the argument that they give seems not really fair, is more indirect and the opinion of woman is not taken into account.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
ASWK,


Our evidence for marriage is detailed in the Quran. In contemplation and seeking knowledge we discover the correct behavior for our daily affairs.

Family is the backbone of our faith.

We marry to perpetuate the Mercy of Allah subhana wa taala. Our blessings are our children. We have community.

A non-believer can not protect that which he has no knowledge. How can one who does not submit to Allah subhana wa taala have any clue to what submission means.

In the simple decisions that are made to carry on the household issues of halaal become strong. Feet on the pillows, shoes in the house, and let's say the avoidance of photographs in the house. At first they do not seem to be big issues. What about the preparation of food. I am not discussing cultural issues. The cultural issues are the easiest to overcome. The racial issues are not difficult to overcome. We love what we love. We are drawn to particular races.

Ok...now why brother and not sister..easy.

He who Created us is Knowledge.

Life is the gift to us. We have a purpose. We are to worship Him. He is the truth.

So what does this have to do with marrying a man who is not a Believer.

Step back for one minute. A Believer may marry a Christian or Jewess. But, that implies a Christian who does not profess the God-head of the Trinity.
Think of a marriage of a Muslim who marries a woman who has no knowledge of her own faith. The couple have a daughter. The woman by her societies standards is a good woman. How does her daughter turn out? How is she influenced in dress, what faith is she raised on? When the father exerts his authority how does he execute it? There is conflict.

When a sister marries a man he will, as is the nature of man, wish to be the head of the household. Every man on this planet sees that as his God-given right; weather or not he believes in God or not. That is just a law of mankind. How can it be successful if she understands that There is no Power Except Allah and he who does not submit sees his ego as the power? The non-Believer has not taken an oath to Love and Fear Allah. He has not made dua to teach him to love the Prophet, swas. He knows nothing of the command to take care of your parents in old age. He does not receive the blessings of salat. He does not call upon Allah to seek Refuge from Shytan. He seeks refuge in Shytan because he does not call upon Allah. That is annihilation. The collision of matter and anti-matter. He can not protect her.

Finally, the Word of Allah tells us not to have our daughters wed to non-Believers. The Prophet, swas, in his Farewell Sermon tells us to protect our women. Like for Like.

The Words and Command of Allah are eternal. A non-Believer is a weak man. A Believer is a man.
 

Ayyub

Junior Member
Wa'alaikoum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

Actually Allah makes it clear in the quran that muslim women are not allowed to marry ahlul Kitab:

O you who have believed, when the believing women come to you as emigrants, examine them. Allah is most knowing as to their faith. And if you know them to be believers, then do not return them to the disbelievers; they are not lawful [wives] for them, nor are they lawful [husbands] for them. But give the disbelievers what they have spent. And there is no blame upon you if you marry them when you have given them their due compensation. And hold not to marriage bonds with disbelieving women, but ask for what you have spent and let them ask for what they have spent. That is the judgement of Allah ; He judges between you. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.

Besides there is a nice fatwa from Shaykh Bin Baz rahimahullah:

If it was asked : Then what is the wisdom behind permitting marriage from the Muhsanaat among the People of the Book for the Muslim men and the prohibition of marrying Muslim women for the men among the People of the Book?

The answer to that - and Allaah knows best - is to say that when the Muslims declared their belief in Allaah & His Messengers, including Musa the son of 'Imran, and 'Isa the son of Mary, peace be upon them,and what was revealed to them including the Tawrah,revealed to Musa and the Injil, revealed to 'Isa when they had believed in all of this, Allaah made the Muhsanaat from among the women of the People of the Book permissible for them, as a Grace and Mercy from Him and of His complete Benevolence towards them.

When the People of the Book disbelieved in Muhammad (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) and the Mighty Book which was revealed to him , that is, the Qur'an, Allaah forbade for them the women of the Muslims, until such time as they believe in His Prophet and Messenger, Muhammad (sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam),the last of the Prophets and Messengers.So if they believe in him, our women will be permissible for them,and they will have what we have, and what is incumbent upon us will be incumbent upon them.

And Allaah,Most Glorified is the most Just Arbitrator Who sees all of the affairs of His creatures, Who knows best what is right for them and Who is Wise in all things. Exalted, Hallowed and far above the saying of those who are astray, the disbelievers and all of the polytheists.

There is another wisdom, which is that woman is weak and quick to submit to her husband.So, if it was made permissible for the Muslim woman to marry men from among the People of the Book,it would in most cases, lead her to the religion of her husband.Som the wisdom of Allaah,Most Glorified requires that it be forbidden."


And he rahimahullaah also goes on to say for the Muslim Men marrying Jewish & Christian Women -

"But not marrying them (Jewish & Christian Women) and dispensing with them in favor of Muhsanaat from aong the believing women is better and preferable,based upon what was said by the Commander of the Faithful,'Umar bin Al-Khattaab, his son,'Abdullah and a number of the righteous Salaf, may Allaah be pleased with them. And because there is danger in marrying women from the People of the Book, especially in these times, in which ignorance of Islaam has become the norm, and the number of the righteous men with understanding of the religion has decreased, and predilection towards women and listening to them and displaying obedience to them in all things has increased - except as Allaah wills.

So, it is feared for the husband that his Jewish and Christian wife may draw him towards her religion and morals, as it is feared for their children. And Allaah is the One from whom we ask for help."

Source : Fatawa Islaamiyyah , Volume 5 ,Book of Marriage ,Section- Rulings on marrying Jewish & Christian Women , Pg -292-293 .

Wa'alaikoum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
 

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
ASWK,


Our evidence for marriage is detailed in the Quran. In contemplation and seeking knowledge we discover the correct behavior for our daily affairs.

Family is the backbone of our faith.

We marry to perpetuate the Mercy of Allah subhana wa taala. Our blessings are our children. We have community.

A non-believer can not protect that which he has no knowledge. How can one who does not submit to Allah subhana wa taala have any clue to what submission means.

In the simple decisions that are made to carry on the household issues of halaal become strong. Feet on the pillows, shoes in the house, and let's say the avoidance of photographs in the house. At first they do not seem to be big issues. What about the preparation of food. I am not discussing cultural issues. The cultural issues are the easiest to overcome. The racial issues are not difficult to overcome. We love what we love. We are drawn to particular races.

Ok...now why brother and not sister..easy.

He who Created us is Knowledge.

Life is the gift to us. We have a purpose. We are to worship Him. He is the truth.

So what does this have to do with marrying a man who is not a Believer.

Step back for one minute. A Believer may marry a Christian or Jewess. But, that implies a Christian who does not profess the God-head of the Trinity.
Think of a marriage of a Muslim who marries a woman who has no knowledge of her own faith. The couple have a daughter. The woman by her societies standards is a good woman. How does her daughter turn out? How is she influenced in dress, what faith is she raised on? When the father exerts his authority how does he execute it? There is conflict.

When a sister marries a man he will, as is the nature of man, wish to be the head of the household. Every man on this planet sees that as his God-given right; weather or not he believes in God or not. That is just a law of mankind. How can it be successful if she understands that There is no Power Except Allah and he who does not submit sees his ego as the power? The non-Believer has not taken an oath to Love and Fear Allah. He has not made dua to teach him to love the Prophet, swas. He knows nothing of the command to take care of your parents in old age. He does not receive the blessings of salat. He does not call upon Allah to seek Refuge from Shytan. He seeks refuge in Shytan because he does not call upon Allah. That is annihilation. The collision of matter and anti-matter. He can not protect her.

Finally, the Word of Allah tells us not to have our daughters wed to non-Believers. The Prophet, swas, in his Farewell Sermon tells us to protect our women. Like for Like.

The Words and Command of Allah are eternal. A non-Believer is a weak man. A Believer is a man.

Salam aleikum sister

I agree with all that you say, Allah knows better and Allah knows that i do not see it a successful marriage a mixed one, but i wish things to be clear in my head in matters of what Quran provides as proof.
I am not a feminist but i dont like when men issue laws on what women can and can not do without a balanced ground. Because women are weak...
Thank you so much for reply, nice to see you back.
 

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
Wa'alaikoum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

Actually Allah makes it clear in the quran that muslim women are not allowed to marry ahlul Kitab:



Besides there is a nice fatwa from Shaykh Bin Baz rahimahullah:



Wa'alaikoum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

Salam aleikum

Thank you brother for this reply.

Here :
O you who have believed, when the believing women come to you as emigrants, examine them. Allah is most knowing as to their faith. And if you know them to be believers, then do not return them to the disbelievers; they are not lawful [wives] for them, nor are they lawful [husbands] for them. But give the disbelievers what they have spent. And there is no blame upon you if you marry them when you have given them their due compensation. And hold not to marriage bonds with disbelieving women, but ask for what you have spent and let them ask for what they have spent. That is the judgement of Allah ; He judges between you. And Allah is Knowing and Wise.

....How do you know this word ''disbelievers'' includes here christian and jew men ? Is this word referring to all men outside islam ? Because with disbelievers in general, like in polytheists also muslim man can not marry.
 

Ayyub

Junior Member
Salam aleikum

Thank you brother for this reply.

Here :

....How do you know this word ''disbelievers'' includes Kitabi people ? Because with disbelievers in general, like in polytheists also muslim man can not marry.

Wa'alaikoum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.

When Mohamed sallahu alahi wa salam received his prphethood then the people diversed in two partys. Either Disbeliever or Mulsim. So when Allah subhanahu wu ta'ala is talking about Disbelievers then he is talking about all of them. But sometimes Allah subhanau wa ta'ala only talks about a party of them for example christian and jews.
So if in this vers the christian and jews were not included than Allah would have made it clear with another vers or Mohamed sallalahu alayhi wa salam would have explained it in one of his hadith's.
Seeing that there is neither a vers that excludes the jews and christains from this vers and nor is there a hadith that excludes them from Mohamed sallahu alayhi wa salam, we can be sure that in this vers all the partys of the disbelievers are included. Wheather they are Buddhist,jews,chrsitian,hindu or whatever.

Hope it got clearer.

Wa'alaikoum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam alaikum,

The duyna does offer beauty. And naturally men of the duyna are beautiful. A sister sees beauty. She is attracted to the beauty. But what is the price she has to pay for wanting what has been prohibited to her.

When men issues decrees without sound evidence we have in Islam a body of knowledge to seek its soundness. That is why counsel is so necessary in Islam.

And this is a good discussion. Our daughters need to understand what is correct and good for them. They need to be comfortable in themselves about the rulings. Or else the salat becomes weak. There can be no confusion in submission. You have to love to please Allah. You can not harbor any ill-feelings.

In my simple words..if I am driving a car I want the navigator to be on the same step with me on Judgement Day.

A Believer is one who Believes in the Oneness of Allah. Christians do not believe in the Oneness of Allah; Jews take and change the covenant with Allah. Not all, there are some that are Believers.
 

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
Wa'alaikoum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh.

When Mohamed sallahu alahi wa salam received his prphethood then the people diversed in two partys. Either Disbeliever or Mulsim. So when Allah subhanahu wu ta'ala is talking about Disbelievers then he is talking about all of them. But sometimes Allah subhanau wa ta'ala only talks about a party of them for example christian and jews.
So if in this vers the christian and jews were not included than Allah would have made it clear with another vers or Mohamed sallalahu alayhi wa salam would have explained it in one of his hadith's.
Seeing that there is neither a vers that excludes the jews and christains from this vers and nor is there a hadith that excludes them from Mohamed sallahu alayhi wa salam, we can be sure that in this vers all the partys of the disbelievers are included. Wheather they are Buddhist,jews,chrsitian,hindu or whatever.

Hope it got clearer.

Wa'alaikoum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

Salam aleikum wa rahmatulahy wa barakatuh

I understand what you try to say, but still something does not make sense.
Who said this ? :
When Mohamed sallahu alahi wa salam received his prphethood then the people diversed in two partys. Either Disbeliever or Mulsim.
If i take this quote to be true, means muslim men are allowed to marry disbelievers women (since are not in the muslim party), but we know that the distinction for the people of the book is different, not all are under the same category.

I think islam is perfect Alhamdulillah and mercy must be for all creations. Like for example the women that can not find a decent muslim man to marry, what can they do ? Suffer in silence until they die ? If a Muslim woman finds a practicing man of God who respects her.
I see it is used as argument that women are weak and they will adopt the religion of the husband, but with all the respect, none can guarantee on how a woman is weak or not and what faith she will change or not after marriage.
In fact, the woman is the one that makes the arrangements in the house and she is the one that raises the children, so is her religion that influences the household and the eventual child. If we maintain that men are the head of households and carry on family legacy, then we also support the notion that women are the primary caretakers and nurturers. Thus, religion and culture are more likely to be passed through the mother.
Is not my option for ideal marriage, is better to marry someone who shares the ONLY true religion wich is islam, Alhamdulillah, but give fair rights to both genders.

.... God knows those who fear [Him]. (Al-Imran 3:113-15)

And Allah knows best.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam alaikum,

There is no argument.

When a Muslim man marries a woman who is a Christian or Jew it is with the understanding that she and her people follow the Books. However, today there are very few. The books have been changed and the religions corrupted.

Why would a Muslim woman seek protection from other than a Muslim man. As for the number of single Muslim women, well most sisters do not believe in polygamy and the brothers make excuses. So we have an uneven field. Polygamy would rectify the situation.

Many men will not revert to marry a Muslim woman. It is too much on them. They have no difficulty for the woman to come into their faiths. Islam demands. You can not have your feet on two paths. It can only be on one.
 

Ayyub

Junior Member
Bismillahi rahmani rahim.
Who said this ? :
Allah says it clearly in the quran [3:85-88]:
And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers.
How shall Allah guide a people who disbelieved after their belief and had witnessed that the Messenger is true and clear signs had come to them? And Allah does not guide the wrongdoing people.
Those - their recompense will be that upon them is the curse of Allah and the angels and the people, all together,
Abiding eternally therein. The punishment will not be lightened for them, nor will they be reprieved.
Whoever takes a religion other than islam is a disbeliever, which means if you don't take Mohamed as the last messenger you are a disbeliever. But there are different kinds of disbelivers.

Like for example the women that can not find a decent muslim man to marry, what can they do ? Suffer in silence until they die ? If a Muslim woman finds a practicing man of God who respects her.

This is a strange question. You think that a person who doesn't love Mohamed sallalahu alayhi wa salam would be decent?

If a Muslim woman finds a practicing man of God who respects her.

Christain and Jews are not man of God. Christians worship Maria, Jesus and the holy-spirit. The jews claim Osiris the egyptian son god is Allah's son.

I see it is used as argument that women are weak and they will adopt the religion of the husband, but with all the respect, none can guarantee on how a woman is weak or not and what faith she will change or not after marriage.
I think Allah azza wa jal knows it better than the person him-/herself. If Allah forbids the woman to marry the disbelievers than we have to accept it. The problem is that humanity did change a lot and that is why the iman of the sahabah is something none of the humans of our time can reach.
The Sahabah (male and female) didn't start to ask the prophet sallahu alayhi wa salam: Why?
They were really people who understood the vers where it is said:
We hear and obey.

For example:
Nowadays a lot of people come with scientific proof to do dawa which is not from the sunnah. Mohamed sallahu alayhi wa salam said to the people: Allah azza wa jal says that is so and so and you have to accept it to not be punished and the people accepted it.

If i take this quote to be true, means muslim men are allowed to marry disbelievers women (since are not in the muslim party), but we know that the distinction for the people of the book is different, not all are under the same category.
I already said that there are different partys under the disbelievers and muslim men are allowed to marry the christain and the jews of the disbelievers.
 

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
Bismillahi rahmani rahim.

Allah says it clearly in the quran [3:85-88]:

Whoever takes a religion other than islam is a disbeliever, which means if you don't take Mohamed as the last messenger you are a disbeliever. But there are different kinds of disbelivers.



This is a strange question. You think that a person who doesn't love Mohamed sallalahu alayhi wa salam would be decent?



Christain and Jews are not man of God. Christians worship Maria, Jesus and the holy-spirit. The jews claim Osiris the egyptian son god is Allah's son.


I think Allah azza wa jal knows it better than the person him-/herself. If Allah forbids the woman to marry the disbelievers than we have to accept it. The problem is that humanity did change a lot and that is why the iman of the sahabah is something none of the humans of our time can reach.
The Sahabah (male and female) didn't start to ask the prophet sallahu alayhi wa salam: Why?
They were really people who understood the vers where it is said:
We hear and obey.

For example:
Nowadays a lot of people come with scientific proof to do dawa which is not from the sunnah. Mohamed sallahu alayhi wa salam said to the people: Allah azza wa jal says that is so and so and you have to accept it to not be punished and the people accepted it.


I already said that there are different partys under the disbelievers and muslim men are allowed to marry the christain and the jews of the disbelievers.

Salam aleikum

First brother i dont ask ''why'', i ask a proof from the Quran, i am here to gain knowledge, inshallah and islam encourage us to do so, not to ''believe and do not search'' like some from other faiths say.

If Allah forbids the woman to marry the disbelievers than we have to accept it.
Ofcourse, if we are sure this is the true command from Allah Himself. I repeat, for this i made the thread, to ask help in finding the words of Allah swt regarding this issue.
You showed me some ayah, there is indirect link but i will ponder over them and i will read some more fatwas, inshallah.
Same on more evidences that i read:
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“And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al‑Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikoon) invite you to the Fire, but Allaah invites (you) to Paradise and forgiveness by His Leave, and makes His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to mankind that they may remember”

[al-Baqarah 2:221]

Imam al-Tabari said:

What is said concerning the interpretation of the words “And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al‑Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you” is that what Allaah meant by that is that Allaah has forbidden the believing women to give birth to a mushrik, no matter what kind of shirk he believes in.

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But who are Al Mushrikoon ?
Here on islam QA i see they are different from christians :

“Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are Al-Mushrikoon, and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: “We are Christians.” That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud.

And when they (who call themselves Christians) listen to what has been sent down to the Messenger (Muhammad), you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of the truth they have recognized. They say: “Our Lord! We believe; so write us down among the witnesses”

[al-Maa’idah 5:82-83 – interpretation of the meaning]

These verses are speaking of some Christian people who, when they came to know the truth, became Muslim and declared their faith.




This is a strange question. You think that a person who doesn't love Mohamed sallalahu alayhi wa salam would be decent?

If you think that anyone outside islam is indecent this is your view, i can not argue with that. It is from islam to respect each other and before we judge i want to you to remember that many of us are reverts and our family are still non-muslims, or indecent as you say.
Thank you for help.
Allah knows better our intentions, our past and our future.
 

islamerica

1 Ummah under God
assalamu alaykum,

not sure if this has been shared, be inshallah here goes.


It is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a woman from among the People of the Book, a Jewish or Christian woman, but not a woman from any other kaafir religion, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“Made lawful to you this day are At-Tayyibaat [all kinds of Halaal (lawful) foods, which Allaah has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits)]. The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time when you have given their due Mahr (bridal-money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage)…” [al-Maa’idah 5:5]

This refers to chaste women from among the People of the Book, not immoral women. It is not permissible for a Muslim woman to marry a mushrik who is not a Muslim, no matter what his religion is. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikoon) invite you to the Fire…”
[al-Baqarah 2:221]

And because Islam should prevail and not be prevailed over, as is stated in the religion of Islam.

Shaykh ‘Abd al-Kareem al-Khudayr
It is known that the man is the stronger party and the one who dominates the lives of the family, his wife and children. So it is not wise for a Muslim woman to marry a kaafir man who will dominate her life and the life of her children, the consequences of which will be very serious, as there is the possibility that he may divert her from her religion and raise the children in his own religion.

http://islamqa.com/en/ref/21047
 

Ayyub

Junior Member
Salam aleikum

First brother i dont ask ''why'', i ask a proof from the Quran, i am here to gain knowledge, inshallah and islam encourage us to do so, not to ''believe and do not search'' like some from other faiths say.


Ofcourse, if we are sure this is the true command from Allah Himself. I repeat, for this i made the thread, to ask help in finding the words of Allah swt regarding this issue.
You showed me some ayah, there is indirect link but i will ponder over them and i will read some more fatwas, inshallah.
Same on more evidences that i read:
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�And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al‑Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you. Those (Al-Mushrikoon) invite you to the Fire, but Allaah invites (you) to Paradise and forgiveness by His Leave, and makes His Ayaat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) clear to mankind that they may remember�

[al-Baqarah 2:221]

Imam al-Tabari said:

What is said concerning the interpretation of the words �And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al‑Mushrikoon till they believe (in Allaah Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you� is that what Allaah meant by that is that Allaah has forbidden the believing women to give birth to a mushrik, no matter what kind of shirk he believes in.

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But who are Al Mushrikoon ?
Here on islam QA i see they are different from christians :

�Verily, you will find the strongest among men in enmity to the believers (Muslims) the Jews and those who are Al-Mushrikoon, and you will find the nearest in love to the believers (Muslims) those who say: �We are Christians.� That is because amongst them are priests and monks, and they are not proud.

And when they (who call themselves Christians) listen to what has been sent down to the Messenger (Muhammad), you see their eyes overflowing with tears because of the truth they have recognized. They say: �Our Lord! We believe; so write us down among the witnesses�

[al-Maa�idah 5:82-83 � interpretation of the meaning]

These verses are speaking of some Christian people who, when they came to know the truth, became Muslim and declared their faith.






If you think that anyone outside islam is indecent this is your view, i can not argue with that. It is from islam to respect each other and before we judge i want to you to remember that many of us are reverts and our family are still non-muslims, or indecent as you say.
Thank you for help.
Allah knows better our intentions, our past and our future.

Assalamou Alaikoum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh

First of all sister it wasn't my intention to say all non- muslim are undecent. After rereading my posts I realized that I often let things quite unclear. Or I assumed would be known whereas this wasn't the case.
So I'm really sorry.

I will try to do better in this post without using the wrong wording.

Here a clearer fatwa with tafsir of the verses that I posted earlier:

About muslim men marrying non-muslims:

The First, Second, and Third Questions from Fatwa no. ( 2229 ):
Q 1: What is the Tafsir (exegesis of the meanings of the Qur'an) of the Ayah (Qur'anic verse) in which Allah (Exalted be He) says: And do not marry Al-Mushrik�t (idolatresses, etc.) till they believe (worship All�h Alone). ?

A: The Tafsir of the Ayah: And do not marry Al-Mushrik�t (idolatresses, etc.) till they believe (worship All�h Alone). is that Allah (Exalted be He) is forbidding His Believing Servants from marrying women who are Mushriks (those who associate others with Allah in worship), with the exception of the women of the People of the Book; the Jews and Christians. This is supported by the Ayah in which Allah (Exalted be He) says: Made lawful to you this day are At-Tayyib�t [all kinds of Hal�l (lawful) foods, which All�h has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits)]. The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time when you have given their due Mahr (bridal-money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage), desiring chastity (i.e. taking them in legal wedlock) not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends.
(Part No. 1; Page No. 751)
In this Ayah from Surah Al-Ma'idah, Allah makes it lawful to marry free chaste Jewish or Christian women. This shows that they are not included in the Mushriks mentioned in the Ayah from Surah Al-Baqarah and that the People of the Book are not included in the Mushriks in the Ayah: Those who disbelieve from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and Al-Mushrik�n, were not going to leave (their disbelief) until there came to them clear evidence. Nor in the Ayah: Verily, those who believe (in All�h and in His Messenger Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم), and those who are Jews, and the Sabians, and the Christians, and the Maj�s, and those who worship others besides All�h, truly, All�h will judge between them on the Day of Resurrection. It is also correct to say that women of the People of the Book are included in the general prohibition of marrying Mushrik women, in Surah Al-Baqarah, but that the Ayah in Surah Al-Ma'idah excludes them from this general prohibition.
There is no contradiction between the two Ayahs if explained either way. The Ayah of prohibition is confined to a specific category of Kafirs (disbelievers) while the Ayah of permission is confined to another category of them. This is the view of the majority of the Sahabah (Companions of the Prophet, may Allah be pleased with them), although there is not an Ijma` (consensus) on this point. Ibn Jarir stated in his Tafsir that there was Ijma` among the Sahabah that this was permissible, and he judged the narration about `Umar (may Allah be pleased with him)
(Part No. 1; Page No. 752)
reprimanding Talhah ibn `Ubaydullah for marrying a Jewish women and Hudhayfah ibn Al-Yaman for marrying a Christian woman to be Da`if (weak) and refuted. He did so according to the Sanad (chain of transmission) and because they conflicted with other reports that were stronger. Ibn Jarir also mentioned the aversion of `Umar and his son `Abdullah (may Allah be pleased with them both) to this practice, because they feared that Muslims would be excessive in marrying women from the People of the Book, following the examples of Hudhayfah, Talhah, and `Uthman (may Allah be pleased with them). They also feared that Muslims would turn away from marrying Muslim women, and in doing so, would violate the Prophet's advice to marry religious Muslim women. Undoubtedly, a Muslim woman is better than a woman from the People of the Book in terms of religion.
May Allah grant us success. May peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and Companions.

The Permanent Committee for Scholarly Research and Ifta'

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`Abdullah ibn Qa`ud `Abdullah ibn Ghudayyan `Abdul-Razzaq `Afify `Abdul-`Aziz ibn `Abdullah ibn Baz



Fatwa no. 18063
All praise be to Allah Alone, and may peace and blessings be upon the Last of the Prophets. To continue:
(Part No. 18; Page No. 278)
The Permanent Committee for Scholarly Research and Ifta' has read the letter sent by His Excellency Assistant Secretary General of the Muslim World League to His Eminence the Grand Mufty bearing the number (78 / 7442) dated 22/5/1416 A.H. referred to the Committee by the General Secretariat of Senior Scholars' Association no. (2592) dated 30/5/1416 A.H., the letter of His Excellency states:
"It is my pleasure to inform Your Eminence that the Muslim World League has received a letter at its office in Paris reporting that Shaykh Dalil Abu Bakr, head of Paris Masjid (mosque) delivered statements to the T�l�rama French Magazine, issue (2370) on 14/6/1995 whereby he declared that the Jews and Christians are not Kafirs (disbelievers) and that they are following the Straight Path. He also permitted a Muslim woman to marry a Jew or a Christian and supported his view with the claim that the Qur'an did not speak about the prohibition of such marriages and that the prohibition has been forged by Muslim Fuqaha' (jurists) on account of regarding the Jews and Christians as Kafirs."
The letter also stated: Two years ago Al-Azhar Al-Sharif in Egypt published an article about Dalil in which he was described as being one of the Muslim scholars in France. Attaching much importance to him made him issue Fatwas without knowledge.
Due to the seriousness of the situation as this gives the go ahead for Muslim women to fall into the traps of the Jews and Christians, and in fulfillment of the Muslim League's desire
(Part No. 18; Page No. 279)
to enlighten Muslim women about matters related to their religion and warn them against the evil consequences of marrying Jewish or Christian husbands,
the Muslim World League hopes that Your Eminence will kindly issue a secondary Fatwa regarding this serious issue in the light of which the League will take the necessary procedures.
After a close study of the inquiry, the Committee gave the following reply: Muslim scholars have unanimously agreed that it is unlawful for a Muslim woman to marry a Kafir, whether he is a pagan, a Jew or a Christian. This unanimous agreement is based on decisive textual evidence found in the Qur'an on the prohibition of such marriages. Allah (Exalted be He) says: And do not marry Al-Mushrik�t (idolatresses, etc.) till they believe (worship All�h Alone). And indeed a slave woman who believes is better than a (free) Mushrikah (idolatress), even though she pleases you. And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrik�n till they believe (in All�h Alone) and verily, a believing slave is better than a (free) Mushrik (idolater), even though he pleases you. Allah (Exalted be He) also says: They are not lawful (wives) for the disbelievers nor are the disbelievers lawful (husbands) for them. No true Mu'min (believer) would issue such a false Fatwa whereby he refuses to declare the Jews and Christians as Kafirs ...etc,
(Part No. 18; Page No. 280)
Being skeptical about the Kufr (disbelief) of the Jews and Christians renders one a Kafir, because such a person will be denying Allah's Words in this regard. Allah (Glorified be He) says: Those who disbelieve from among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) and Al-Mushrik�n, were not going to leave (their disbelief) until there came to them clear evidence. This and other similar Ayahs (Qur'anic verses) definitely indicate the Kufr of the People of the Book, namely the Jews and Christians. Three major sins have been contained in the above-mentioned Fatwa: 1- Belying Allah's Words about the Jews and Christians. 2- Violating Ijma` (consensus of scholars) of Muslims which is based on decisive evidence derived from the Qur'an. 3- Unjustifiably accusing the Muslim Fuqaha' of inventing rulings of their own accord. These are held as slanderous accusations in the Sight of Allah (Exalted be He), the most grave of which is belying His Words. We ask Allah (Exalted be He) to grant us security from this. Accordingly, the Fatwa issued by that man has to be falsified as it contains words of Kufr. The man who issued that Fatwa has to be declared as an erring person who should be advised, perhaps Allah (Exalted be He) will guide him back to the Straight Path.
(Part No. 18; Page No. 281)
May Allah grant us success. May peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and Companions.

The Permanent Committee for Scholarly Research and Ifta'

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Bakr Abu Zayd `Abdul-`Aziz Al Al-Shaykh Salih Al-Fawzan `Abdullah ibn Ghudayyan `Abdul-`Aziz ibn `Abdullah ibn Baz

The fourth question of Fatwa no. 3081
Q 4: What is the ruling of Shari`ah (Islamic law) on marrying Christian and Jewish women in this age and in such a society,
(Part No. 18; Page No. 316)
especially that a Muslim man may take one as his lover and then marry her? Can they be regarded as chaste women at the time when there are many Muslim women waiting to be asked for marriage? what is the ruling on a Muslim man who marries a non-Muslim woman, namely a Christian or Jew? What is the ruling on a Muslim man who marries a woman who is not from the People of the Book, that is, a Hindu, a Sikh, or any believer in non-divine religions?
A: It is permissible for a Muslim man to marry chaste Christian and Jewish women, because of the general meaning of the following Ayah (Qur'anic verse) in which Allah (Exalted be He) says: Made lawful to you this day are At-Tayyib�t [all kinds of Hal�l (lawful) foods, which All�h has made lawful (meat of slaughtered eatable animals, milk products, fats, vegetables and fruits)]. The food (slaughtered cattle, eatable animals) of the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians) is lawful to you and yours is lawful to them. (Lawful to you in marriage) are chaste women from the believers and chaste women from those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) before your time when you have given their due Mahr (bridal-money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage) A chaste woman refers to the woman who does not commit Zina (sexual intercourse outside marriage). Regarding the women who embrace non-divine religions, such as the Hindus, Sikh, and other atheists and polytheists, a Muslim man is not permitted to marry any of them. This is because of the general meaning of the following Ayah: And do not marry Al-Mushrik�t (idolatresses, etc.) till they believe (worship All�h Alone). On the other hand, a Muslim woman is not permitted to marry a non-Muslim man, because Allah (Exalted be He) says: And give not (your daughters) in marriage to Al-Mushrik�n till they believe (in All�h Alone) Allah
(Part No. 18; Page No. 317)
(Glorified and Exalted be He) also says: They are not lawful (wives) for the disbelievers nor are the disbelievers lawful (husbands) for them. If a Muslim woman marries a non-Muslim, she will not be regarded as non-Muslim unless she believes in the lawfulness of her marriage. It should be noted that marrying chaste Muslim women is better than marrying chaste women from the People of the Book. It also keeps Muslims away from Fitnah (temptation) and protects them and their children from harmful consequences. May Allah grant us success. May peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad, his family, and Companions.

The Permanent Committee for Scholarly Research and Ifta'

Member Deputy Chairman Chairman
`Abdullah ibn Qa`ud `Abdullah ibn Ghudayyan `Abdul-`Aziz ibn `Abdullah ibn Baz

I hope that you see that even muslim men can't marry anyone of ahlul kitab rather there are certain conditions that needs to be established first.
So in the end Allah made it lawful to muslim men to marry chaste people of the scripture and He doesn't allow it for the muslim women. Like He only allows women to wear silk and forbade it for the men.

Sister you said in your opening post that there is a differnece of opinion in this matter. Where did you get this from?
I mean all 4 madhahibs are on agreement about this matter.
There is no Salafi scholar who says it is permissible.
There is also no Deobandi scholar who says it is permissible.

I know that the shia scholars allow this. But Shia in genaral are outside the fold of Islam if they don't repent.
And there are some so called scholars who allowed this and later were discovered to be paid by certain organization to spread this corruption.


Wa'alaikoum assalam
 

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
Salam aleykum wa rahmatulahi wa barakatuh

I understand better and i can not agree more, from the jews and christian women, only a small part of them are the chaste ones that Allah mentions in Quran. And even so, i can not see how 2 faiths can live in the same house.


My problem is when everyone speeks about how a woman is weak and can be do easy influenced. Not all women are weak and not all muslim men are the great responsable, good leader of the family....


In the end, truth is none should compromise islam for the personal and temporary well beeing. We need to be teached to think about the greater good i guess, Allah knows best.
 
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