Derby Muslim Free School

Iftikhar

Junior Member
The school is in a mess because the Board of Governors have appointed a non-Muslim head teacher along with couple of non-Muslim female teachers.There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school. They do not understand and respect the needs and demands of the Muslim children. Majority of children are from Pakistan, they need to learn and be well versed in Urdu to keep in touch with their cultural heritage and enjoy the beauty of Urdu literature and poetry. It is their social and emotional language. The school does not teach Urdu language. The school only teaches Arabic language which is a religious language. A Muslim must learn and be well versed in standard English, Arabic and Urdu and other community languages. A Muslim is a citizen of this tiny global village. He/she does not want to become notoriously monolingual Brit.
There is no requirement for teaching staff to hold appropriate qualifications or have the necessary experience; there is no requirement to follow the national curriculum, which does work towards recognised qualifications. In my town the children attending the state schools have below average attainments at GCSE compared to the national average. The children are not achieving their full potential and are being let down by the qualified teachers at these schools. Although I’ve no doubt that there are many non-’qualified’ people who could teach as well as, or better than, many of those certificated to do so. A very real concern is that those who teach in state schools (often also including “assistants”) lack proficiency in the subjects they teach, even at the most basic levels. In those circumstances, what they are doing is not teaching, but inculcating wrong information or none at all. Curriculum seems to have been dumbed down to accommodate teachers who probably would never have passed the subject at O level in times gone by – let alone A level or a degree.
I heard 3 parents being interviewed on the radio a little while ago, and god help me they were actually quite happy with the school! It would seem that the spirit of the Crusades is alive and well. Al-Madinah is certainly not the only failing school in the country. However, seasoned Ofsted report readers will I hope agree that we have never read such a damning report. Words like “dysfunctional”, “woefully inadequate” and “chaotic” do not normally feature in Ofsted reports, even when they are slating a school. The evidence is surely the 173 Free Schools that have, minor teething troubles aside, opened perfectly successfully – many opened by teams that have never opened a schools before. That’s the reality. So a Muslim school (which it seems retains a great deal of parental backing) has come a cropper with serious questions to answer. It seems however, despite the odd teething troubles (buildings, Ofsted confusion over Montessori methods, etc.) here and there, that the other 173 Free Schools have opened successfully against a backdrop of ideological sniping from local authorities, the Labour Party and teaching Unions. So the Free School failure rate so far is 0.6%. Disarray for sure. State schools get appalling Ofsted reports as well. There will be good and bad state schools and good and bad free schools.
State schools get appalling Ofsted reports as well. There will be good and bad state schools and good and bad free schools. Muslim Girls school tops state school rankings in Blackburn. Yet, the only news we get is about a failing school in Derby. There are good Muslim schools and there are bad ones. However, let’s be blunt, negative stories about Muslims predominate. There is a reason for that. And no, it’s not because Muslims predominantly do negative things. While it’s great that a Muslim school toped some ranking that isn’t news – just like the many Christian and secular schools that top local rankings aren’t. There is a very obvious reason why there are more negative stories about Islam than positive ones.It is funny how negative Muslim stories are given front page and positive Muslim stories are packed away where you have to actively look for them. What about the Catholic church for example: White British men who abused boys and were just placed in different institutions when caught and protected by their superiors.Or is it because we are white that we don’t behave badly or are blameless for any bad behaviour?
Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental period. This is the only solution for them to keep away from the evils of western society. Let them teach what ever the native Brits would like to teach their children. It is a crime against humanity to keep sending Muslim children to state and church schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers. This is why the legal definition of genocide includes cultural killing, not only actually killing. British education is the home of institutional racism and British teachers are chicken racist.
What gives OFSTED the right, or indeed any Brit, to preach to minority groups about how they should live their lives. This is a cosmopolitan country, the Muslim community have the right to educate their children how they choose. Studying the Qur'an will certainly help towards these children becoming fully integrated citizens of the UK.
A quarter of a million extra school places will be needed in England by autumn 2014 to meet rising demand, the National Audit Office (NAO) is warning. The spending watchdog said one in five primary schools in England was full or near capacity and there were signs of "real strain" on places. The demand for places has been driven by the birth rate rising more quickly than at any time since the 1950s.
The solution of this problem is very simple. There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies.
It will satisfy the needs of those native parents who do not want to send their children to those schools where the number of Muslim children is on the increase.
Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental period. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.
The Muslims don't want to integrate or abide by western law. Just because they don´t want to wear nude clothes or at least cloth that can show how big her breast are... so these people failed to integrate. Just because they don't like free sex, then these people failed again.. what a dirty Bush mind you have!
Speaking English does not promote integration into British, American and Australian societies, and broaden opportunities. English speaking Muslim youths are angry, frustrated and extremist, thanks to state schools with monolingual non-Muslim teachers and English language. English language is not only a lingua franca but also lingua frankensteinia. Human right are also covers linguistic right. Cultural and linguistic genocide are very common. British schooling is murdering community languages like Arabic, Urdu and others. English is today the world killer language. Linguistic genocide is a crime against humanity and British schooling is guilty of committing this crime. Language is not just a language. It defines one's culture, identity and consciousness. It defines how we think, communicate and express ourselves. The fact is the most South Asian Muslims have come to know Islam by way of Urdu, the children's alienation from the language that connects them the heritage of their parents and grand parents is disturbing. As a matter of fact, one has to get to know his mother tongue well if one is to master any other language.
Iftikhar Ahmad
London School of Islamics Trust
 

MehmetHilmi

Junior Member
Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental period. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

No. If the state is secular, it will not fund religious schools. And it will definitely not fund schools that discriminate! What kind of mentality is this? If you want a Muslim school for Muslims only, set it up yourself. Don't keep complaining at the state! If the state does this, then it should also fund Catholic, Jewish, and other religious schools as well.

Why would non Muslims have no place in a Muslim school? Where did the concept of Muslim school arise from anyways? A school is a place of knowledge for everybody. When teaching Islamic concepts, the teacher of course has to be Muslim. But in science, math, and language, a teacher can be of any background.

The Muslims don't want to integrate or abide by western law.

They don't have to fully integrate, but if they don't want to abide by the laws, then they could pack up and leave...
 

Iftikhar

Junior Member
Anything Muslim is met with negativity by most people in this country. get over it, I don’t see anyone complaining about St John’s or St Edmunds Catholic schools? If Muslims people want to send their children to a Muslim school, what difference does it make to you???
Seriously, don’t worry about the kids not integrating in society, Saying all kids who go to a single faith school won’t integrate is like saying that all kids who go to a single sex school will grow up gay. It’s such an idiotic point but not a surprising one for your typical insular Portsmouth citizen.
I think before we demand other faiths integrate into our culture we should decide what our culture actually is. Is it good Christians, fish and chips, bowler hats, binge drinking and watching Jeremy Kyle? Or are we just all completely different individuals who get on with our lives and try to let others get on with theirs. I don’t particularly feel like i share a culture with most of the white British people i know, and i don’t feel like watching east enders or liking rap music to integrate with them. I can still live along side them though.
British girls ‘biggest teenage binge drinkers in western world’. Half of 15-year-old girls have been drunk at least twice, nearly double the average proportion in other developed countries.
There is no end to forced marriages and honour killings as long as Muslim children keep on attending non-Muslim schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers.
It is a crime against humanity to send our children to non-Muslim schools.
Bilingual Muslim children need state funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental period. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
 

MehmetHilmi

Junior Member
Well, I live in California so here it is different. No there is nothing wrong with people wanting their kids to get an Islamic education. IN fact, there is a Muslim private college here called Zaytuna. What is wrong is expecting the state to fund such schools. Aren't all religious schools private? I think you must have misunderstood me. I don't agree with total assimilation. I don't binge drink or watch American football with my American friends. I ONLY listen to Turkish music, even when I'm with my American friends (thy're kind of sick of it though lol). I meant to say that we have to abide by the laws here. We can't expect the state to give special privileges to us. But culturally of course we are different. The cultural diversity is what makes America so wonderful. I'm not sure about the UK though.

How do you connect forced marriages and honor killings to non-Muslim education though? I couldn't really draw the connection.
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
I think before we demand other faiths integrate into our culture we should decide what our culture actually is. Is it good Christians, fish and chips, bowler hats, binge drinking and watching Jeremy Kyle? Or are we just all completely different individuals who get on with our lives and try to let others get on with theirs. I don’t particularly feel like i share a culture with most of the white British people i know, and i don’t feel like watching east enders or liking rap music to integrate with them. I can still live along side them though.

Assalamu alaykum,
I understand your point here, although I think it depends also on your neighbourhood. The majority of non-Muslims do not binge drink, eat fish and chips, or watch Jeremy Kyle! It is attitudes like this that push people further away from Muslims, or keep Muslims away from non-Muslims. - when they have ability for beneficial exchange. I am sure in some areas they would say about Muslims that "they like curries, smell of curry powder, watch cricket and marry their cousins".

There is no end to forced marriages and honour killings as long as Muslim children keep on attending non-Muslim schools with non-Muslim monolingual teachers.
It is a crime against humanity to send our children to non-Muslim schools.

With all respect, that is simply untrue. Whilst it is good to have properly achieving Muslim schools, you should not resort to attacking the British education system or the British people.

Your initial post was more of a rant than anything cohesive. In my school (full of ever so evil non-Muslim teachers) we were taught to back statements up with facts based on academic studies and research.
 
According to a recent report, Muslim schools performed best overall, although they constitute only a fraction of the country's 7000 schools. Muslim schools do well because of their Islamic ethos and a focus on traditional discipline and teaching methods. They teach children what is right and what is wrong, because young children need structured guidance.

A man is a product of his culture, language and faith. State funded Muslim schools with bilingual Muslim teachers would help bilingual Muslim children to develop their cultural, linguistic and spiritual identities before they are exposed to other cultures and faiths. A bilingual Muslim child must learn and be well versed in standard English to follow the National Curriculum and go for higher studies and research to serve humanity. At the same time he/she must learn and be well versed in Arabic to recite and understand the Holy Quran. On top of that he/she must learn Urdu and other community languages to keep in touch with his/her cultural heritage and enjoy the beauty of his/her literature and poetry. Without Muslim schools, Muslim children are not going to develop their Islamic identity, crucial for their mental, social, emotional and personality development. We have already lost four generations and fifth one is in the process of losing its cultural, linguistic and spiritual Identities.

I have been campaigning for state funded Muslim schools for the last 45 years because British schooling is the home of institutional racism and British teachers are chicken racists. British teachers are not role models for Muslim children during their developmental periods.

None of the British Muslims convicted following the riots in Bradford and Oldham in 2001 or any of those linked to the London bombings had been to Islamic schools. An American Think Tank studied the educational back ground of 300 Jihadists; none of them were educated in Pakistani Madrasas. They were all Western educated by non-Muslim teachers. Bilingual Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models. A Cambridge University study found that single-sex classes could make a big difference for boys. They perform better in single-sex classes. The research is promising because male students in the study saw noticeable gains in the grades. The study confirms the Islamic notion that academic achievement is better in single-sex classes.

I set up the first Muslim school in London in 1981 and now there are about 188 Muslim schools and only 18 are state funded. I would like to see each and every Muslim child in a state funded Muslim school with bilingual Muslim teachers as role model. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.

Western media and politicians have been trying their best to propagate against Muslim schools. Muslim schools are even called Osama bin Laden Academies by a Teaching Union. Only less than 5% of Muslim children attend Muslim schools while more than 95% are in state schools to be mis-educated and de-educated by non-Muslim monolingual teachers.

The demand for state funded Muslim schools is in accordance with the law of the land. Muslim community is not asking for any favour. Muslim community pays all sorts of taxes and is less burden on social services.

Church leaders say it is no longer "appropriate" for them to run Sacred Heart RC Primary School which has just six Christian pupils. The school in Blackburn, Lances, could be handed to the nearby Masjid-e-Tauheedul mosque.

Harry Devonport of Blackburn with Darwin Council Children's Services, said the decision to abandon the school was made by the Diocese of Salford. Diocese education director Geraldine Bradbury said: "We have never experienced a change to this extent before. We would not be serving the local community by insisting that we run the school. It brings things like having a Catholic head teacher and devoting 10% of the timetable to RE."It would be wrong of us to insist on putting a school community through that."
There are hundreds of state and church schools where Muslim children are in majority. In my opinion, all such schools may be opted out as Muslim Academies. Bilingual Muslim children need bilingual Muslim teachers as role models during their developmental periods. There is no place for a non-Muslim child or a teacher in a Muslim school.
IA
http://www.londonschoolofislamics.org.uk
 
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