P-Thulhu
Junior Member
Thank you 'macoooo' for attempting to answer my question/point. *Bows*
In regards to the small excerpt I've quoted below;
"It all goes along with Jesus is one of two separate beings from god. god in the flesh and god in the spirit. i don't understand people who worship Jesus or worship the holy ghost without worshiping god or trying to worship all three bc you shouldn't your worship should always go back to god who created them. I'm sure that's what happening."
Now, the thing I always find strange (Again, remember, I'm a Non-theist) is the difficulties I find with people not being able to understand or comprehend the idea/concept of a deity literally being able to do anything it wants (Again, caveat being on the said attributes of said deity etc)
So... if a deity want to create everything within its power, fine. I can understand that concept.
If a deity wanted(s) to both 'Be everything' as well as incarnate into/inside the 'Everything' which it has created, I can understand that as well.
After all, we're talking about a supposed limitless being in the first place. So the idea that said being can-not incarnate into the reality it has created is.... 'Wrong' (I really have a hard time finding a better emotively descriptive word to convey my feeling/thoughts here)
A limitless being, by the definitions supplied, should quite simply be able to do anything and everything.
So... said deity descending/manifesting to plop down a living incarnation and said incarnation walking around, giving itself a name etc... Is not beyond the posited realms as put forwards about a limitless being.
The whole "Jesus is either this one thing or they are this other thing idea is a limit. By the ideas put forwards There are more than just those tow options.
I'm happy and accept the idea, within the proposition of the abilities of the deity, that said person can/could be both beings at the same time.
Or, to flip things around, the deity can/could be both beings at the same time.
*Bows* I hope that helps explain my small view/take on this part of the on going thread/conversation.
In regards to the small excerpt I've quoted below;
"It all goes along with Jesus is one of two separate beings from god. god in the flesh and god in the spirit. i don't understand people who worship Jesus or worship the holy ghost without worshiping god or trying to worship all three bc you shouldn't your worship should always go back to god who created them. I'm sure that's what happening."
Now, the thing I always find strange (Again, remember, I'm a Non-theist) is the difficulties I find with people not being able to understand or comprehend the idea/concept of a deity literally being able to do anything it wants (Again, caveat being on the said attributes of said deity etc)
So... if a deity want to create everything within its power, fine. I can understand that concept.
If a deity wanted(s) to both 'Be everything' as well as incarnate into/inside the 'Everything' which it has created, I can understand that as well.
After all, we're talking about a supposed limitless being in the first place. So the idea that said being can-not incarnate into the reality it has created is.... 'Wrong' (I really have a hard time finding a better emotively descriptive word to convey my feeling/thoughts here)
A limitless being, by the definitions supplied, should quite simply be able to do anything and everything.
So... said deity descending/manifesting to plop down a living incarnation and said incarnation walking around, giving itself a name etc... Is not beyond the posited realms as put forwards about a limitless being.
The whole "Jesus is either this one thing or they are this other thing idea is a limit. By the ideas put forwards There are more than just those tow options.
I'm happy and accept the idea, within the proposition of the abilities of the deity, that said person can/could be both beings at the same time.
Or, to flip things around, the deity can/could be both beings at the same time.
*Bows* I hope that helps explain my small view/take on this part of the on going thread/conversation.