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How can we be so assured that whatever is written in hadith is true? Did you see the authors writing hadiths yourself? You are not understanding my point really. I just don't know how to present it to you. You tend to trust everyone who was in a way related to the initial era of Islam. Just...

Well alright Sister, this discussion is going nowhere so lets end it. Its my last post also. I don't want to infuriate you more, though I didn't mean to make you that angry on first place. Perhaps you didn't understand what i was trying to say and equally possible that I didn't get the correct...

Regarding your first message, I agree. Whatever you quoted, I have nothing to object on. But, Past or history is an integral part of a person's life. We should be aware of our past. Even in Quran Allah has described the past events, the catastrophes and stories of earlier Prophets. It...

And I missed one point, During the Muslim rule over Sindh, do you know who used to rule the sea? Portuguese! They used to be the worst pirates of their time and the Arabian Sea was under their control. But do you know of any account in history which tells about a war which Muslim rulers...

Hairless Gorilla? Who? Are you talking about Altaf Hussain? Well, let me tell you he is not a Sindhi. And just when did I say that no other province is rich in resources? I am well aware of the injustice prevailing in Balochistan. I didn't say that Sindh is the only one land which suffers.

Raised where? On the Judgement day? Well if you are talking about that then let me say that this world is different from the hereafter. Here you are linked to your father's name while in hereafter with your mother. Here you feel emotions, you love your family and friends, there you wont bother...

Yes i do have a problem with it. Because its not same as Muslims paying Zakkat. Muslims pay Zakaat as a religious tradition. And non muslims are FORCED to pay it. Zakkat is paid happily, while Jaziyyah with regrets. If you are ruled by a Hindu, and he imposes something on you just because its...

Contradiction!? Can you please explain what has he contradicted? The point he made earlier was that the purpose of invasion was not the captivated family. Now he is saying that the reason might have been because of sea pirates disturbing their safe passage.... NOT BECAUSE OF A FAMILY...

Now how can you be so sure about it when you have only read the text book material!? Try to calm down and think over it. He has used the word Arab because he wants to make you understand that I was not the war of Muslims and Kuffar. It was solely the war of Arabs against Sindhis. This argument...

Yes, I'll also request you to search for this guy. May be then you feel the command this person possesses over history.

I don't favour any Mughal emperor, be it Shah Jahan or Aurangzeb. Both were enamored with lust of power. And regarding your point that why didn't Mughal emperor do forced conversions, I have to say that forced conversions were part of initial tactics to get maximum support in the country...

Victim? Well, not really. As you said, or perhaps some other sister said that Islam was spread in subcontinent by Sufis. I agree to it along with the fact that forced conversions and the extra tax 'jizya' also played their part. Now what I wanted to explain is that homeland is a person's first...

Our textbook history is largely devoid of facts. I don't blame you for believing it because we have been nurtured that way. Pakistan's history has been so shrewdly manipulated and has been presenting as if we were the most pious people... I'd love to talk about that but that's not the topic of...

Ok it seems you live in vicinity of Sindh, somewhere. You have good 'textbook' knowledge of Sindh History. And I am sure you would be knowing the name of Dr. Mubarak Ali. He is a renowned Historian and has written many books on history of subcontinent. I suppose he is to be trusted in what he...

Nice point Sister. And that's exactly why I posted my questions here. I didn't start this discussion forum to prove all of you wrong, rather I wanted to know what you think are the best counter replies to them. Whatever I was arguing was actually the way atheist argue. I was trying my best to...

Well, you know this argument is very similar to the one which america made to attack iraq. What did America say? Iraq has weapons of mass destruction and in the good interest of America and the other world, Iraq needs to be invaded. The actual reason though, was the opposite, America wanted to...

I am not confusing anything. I just wanted to say that majority of Muslim spread was for power rather than Islamic preaching. I am not talking about the later development and peace which may have prevailed but the attacks over non muslim countries were largely due to greed of power.

Of course I agree with you. But the point here was that few of our fellows were reluctant to agree to the fact that Muslims have been equally ruthless like other nations. Muslims were also driven with the lust of power. Why not to accept it?

I'll have to differ on the point that Forced conversions were rare. I belong to Province of Sindh (Indus Valley), Pakistan. We have a long history of invaders due to the richness of resources available here. I have read many history books regarding the invasions over Sindh. And it is well...

Well, thanks to all of you for your supportive and positive criticism. There are many things which I really get confused with. Specially regarding women rights because that's what i hear the most. Your replies will help me continue my struggle to know whats better because i always believe that...