Assalamou Alaikoum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh
Sister I already answered this question:
PICKTHAL: It is made lawful for you to go in unto your wives on the night of the fast. They are raiment for you and ye are raiment for them. Allah is Aware that ye were deceiving yourselves in this respect and He hath turned in mercy toward you and relieved you. So hold intercourse with them and seek that which Allah hath ordained for you, and eat and drink until the white thread becometh distinct to you from the black thread of the dawn. Then strictly observe the fast till nightfall and touch them not, but be at your devotions in the mosques. These are the limits imposed by Allah, so approach them not. Thus Allah expoundeth His revelation to mankind that they may ward off (evil
sorry i repeated some questions, because i didnt understand the answer you gave earlier, but thanks a lot for taking the time to answer them again.
I think you know more than me when it comes to sunna, so I think i will benefitt from your answers.
the quran is not to be taken literally. what! and you support this with that we are supposed to understand how the sahaba understood the Quran, thou the sahaba sayings reached us with so much disagreement wthin it, and caused and justified devition in islam.
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and men beating theire wifes??? this is what it says about wife in the Quran
PICKTHAL: O ye who believe! It is not lawful for you forcibly to inherit the women (of your deceased kinsmen), nor (that) ye should put constraint upon them that ye may take away a part of that which ye have given them, unless they be guilty of flagrant lewdness. But consort with them in kindness, for if ye hate them it may happen that ye hate a thing wherein Allah hath placed much good.[2]
isnt murdering someone with stones much much wors? and honestly are you saying that the Quran commands us to kill every disbelievers if we look at it literally.[3]
this is what says in the Quran about killing disbelievers
PICKTHAL: And fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah. But if they desist, then let there be no hostility except against wrong-doers.
سورة البقرة , Al-Baqara, Chapter #2, Verse #193)
by the way pickthal, shakir and yusuf ali are men who translated the Quran into english[4]
the part about the sahaba fasting til maqrib can we be sure this information reached us the way it was supposed be considering the amount of disagreements that are within the hadiths and after a millnium and a half and all the enemies of islam of men and jinn.[5]
please dont say it was protected if it was protected it wouldnt cause and justify devition.[6]
if i keep listening til the end of the same aya i will hear the three dalaakh? you copied a translation here if you listen as in audio you will not hear a third dalaakhso ,i did listen to it before and i didnt hear it.[7]
Those who disagree within the book (ex ahlu sunna wal jame'a, wahhabi salafi etc) are in great opposition to God.
listen to the aya not translation of the aya, if you speak arabic im sure you will understand what im talking about.
its 176 in al baqra.
we cant see fear, but we can see the results of fear sweating shaking stuttering especially when reminded of Allah and His punishment, lot of fear can even cause fainting. how ever fear definitely does not cause the way "muslims" are behaving today.[8]
and my original question was isn something wrong with the way we are worshiping when this fear is not growing?
and i think you didnt read my second post or reply, i could be wrong.[9]
dont look for Quranic ayads to prove me wrong because if you look you will find them instead look for what is right[10]
Wa'alaikoum assalam wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
Bismillaah Al-Hamdulillaah wa salatu wa salaamu 'ala rasulullaah
Amma ba'd
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First of all sister would please be so kind to show me your proof that the Sahabah had disagreement in their community?
We all should be carefull with what we say about the Sahabah radhiallahu anhum.
Let me give you fist an example of why we should be careful with what we say about the Sahabah.
Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala says:
Surah 3:110
You are the best nation produced [as an example] for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and believe in Allah . If only the People of the Scripture had believed, it would have been better for them. Among them are believers, but most of them are defiantly disobedient.
Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala describes the ummah of Mohamed allahu alayhi wa sallam as the best of the best. And there are certain hadiths which are proven to be 100% true that Messenger sallahu alayhi wa sallam said that:
Volume 8, Book 76, Number 437:
Narrated 'Abdullah :
The Prophet said, "The best people are those of my generation, and then those who will come after them (the next generation), and then those who will come after them (i.e. the next generation), and then after them, there will come people whose witness will precede their oaths, and whose oaths will precede their witness."
So sister don't attack the Sahabah without knowledge. The Sahabah radhallahu anhum are the best creation that sat their foot on this earth.
They radhiallahu anhum did their utmost to deliver the message of Islam to the following generations. For example it was Uthman radhaillahu anhu that is responsible that the surat are together in one book. It is the Mushaf that we have today.
Not that misunderstands me I'm not out to disprove you sister but rather you are saying some harsh things against the best of the best which is utterly wrong and a sin.
The devotion in Islam started cause certain people which aren't the sahabah started to follow their desires and misuse the quran to satisfy their desires. Muhamed sallahu alayhi wa salam already informed the sahaba radhiallahu anhum that after his sallahu alayhi wa sallam life islam will split in 73 sects.
This is hadith:
The Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) said, My Ummah will split into seventy three sects, all of them in the Fire except one and it is al-Jamaaýah. It was said, Who are they, O Messenger of Allah? He (sallallaahu alaihi wa sallam) replied, That which I and my Companions are upon today.
Source: The hadeeth is hasan and is reported by at-Tirmidhee (no.2643), Ibn Waddaah in al-Bidýah (p.85), al-Aajurree in ash-Shareeýah (p.15) and in al-Arbaýeen, al-Haakim (1/128-129), Ibn Nasr in as-Sunnah (no.62), al-Laalikaaýee in as-Sunnah (no.147), Ibn al-Jawzee in Talbees Iblees (p.16) and al-Uqailee in ad-Duýafaaý (2/262) from the hadeeth of Abdullah ibn Amr.
I will for now leave at that if you still want to know more about it I will nchallah write more about it.
Why do we muslims need the hadith?And even our noble precessedors went to even make a complete scientific system for it. Well without the ahadith you wouldn't even know how to pray, how to make tashahud, what du'aa to say after the adhan or how to make abolution.
I will say it again the shabah weren't in disagreement. They all had the same Aqeedah.
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About men beating their wifes. Well look at the Vers in sarah 4 for example:
Surah 4:34
Men are in charge of women by [right of] what Allah has given one over the other and what they spend [for maintenance] from their wealth. So righteous women are devoutly obedient, guarding in [the husband's] absence what Allah would have them guard. But those [wives] from whom you fear arrogance - [first] advise them; [then if they persist], forsake them in bed; and [finally], strike them. But if they obey you [once more], seek no means against them. Indeed, Allah is ever Exalted and Grand
Take these literally and men would start to beat their wifes for everything hey do which they don't like even if they do something Allah allowed the women to do.
But if we take how the Sahabah radhiallahu anhum explained this vers everything becomes clear:
Allah said,
(As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct,) meaning, the woman from whom you see ill conduct with her husband, such as when she acts as if she is above her husband, disobeys him, ignores him, dislikes him, and so forth. When these signs appear in a woman, her husband should advise her and remind her of Allah's torment if she disobeys him. Indeed, Allah ordered the wife to obey her husband and prohibited her from disobeying him, because of the enormity of his rights and all that he does for her. The Messenger of Allah said,
(If I were to command anyone to prostrate before anyone, I would have commanded the wife to prostrate before her husband, because of the enormity of his right upon her.) Al-Bukhari recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said,
(If the man asks his wife to come to his bed and she declines, the angels will keep cursing her until the morning.) Muslim recorded it with the wording,
(If the wife goes to sleep while ignoring her husband's bed, the angels will keep cursing her until the morning.) This is why Allah said,
(As to those women on whose part you see ill conduct, admonish them (first)). Allah's statement,
(abandon them in their beds,) `Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that Ibn `Abbas said "The abandonment refers to not having intercourse with her, to lie on her bed with his back to her.'' Several others said similarly. As-Suddi, Ad-Dahhak, `Ikrimah, and Ibn `Abbas, in another narration, added, "Not to speak with her or talk to her.'' The Sunan and Musnad compilers recorded that Mu`awiyah bin Haydah Al-Qushayri said, "O Allah's Messenger! What is the right that the wife of one of us has on him'' The Prophet said,
(To feed her when you eat, cloth her when you buy clothes for yourself, refrain from striking her face or cursing her, and to not abandon her, except in the house.) Allah's statement,
(beat them) means, if advice and ignoring her in the bed do not produce the desired results, you are allowed to discipline the wife, without severe beating. Muslim recorded that Jabir said that during the Farewell Hajj, the Prophet said;
(Fear Allah regarding women, for they are your assistants. You have the right on them that they do not allow any person whom you dislike to step on your mat. However, if they do that, you are allowed to discipline them lightly. They have a right on you that you provide them with their provision and clothes, in a reasonable manner.) Ibn `Abbas and several others said that the Ayah refers to a beating that is not violent. Al-Hasan Al-Basri said that it means, a beating that is not severe.
Now we see what Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala means with this ayah.
I said it in my previous post to make an example for you to understand the quran like the Mohamed sallahu alayhi wa sallam understood it and taught it the Companions radhallahu anhum.
It is one of the main reasons why some muslims start commiting suicide and kill their brothers and sistrs with them (aka the follower of Bin Laden) cause these certain individuals take every ayah literally and out of context. Some even see such people as heros which they are far off.
In Islam there is a rule for everything. And we need these rules. The Sahabah radhallahu anhum had the Prophet sallahu alayhi wa sallam to ask. The tabi'oon radhiallahu anhum ahd the Sahabah radhiallahu anhum to ask and the atba tabi'oon had the tabi'oon to ask radiallhu anhum kulhum.
So what should we do then??
So the Sahabah feared that people will start misusing Allah's commands and so they wrote down how the Protphet sallahu alayhi wa sallam understood the quran and even wrote down everything the prophet sallahu alayhi wa sallam told them.
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Yes.
Let's read suarh 9 vers 5:
And when the sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists wherever you find them and capture them and besiege them and sit in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they should repent, establish prayer, and give zakah, let them [go] on their way. Indeed, Allah is Forgiving and Merciful.
Let's take this literally and you will see that after the three sacred months every muslim will go hunting disbelievers. But with it's explanation we understand the wisdom behind this surah and this vers and how Mohamed sallahu alayhi wa sallam understood it.
Explanation:
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Jazakallahu khairan for this information.
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Yes. Look at post number #6 and you will see why the hadith are to be trusted. If not and you are better in the arabic language I will tray to explain it in the arabic language.
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Here Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala speaks about two divorces and their rules.
And in the Ayah after it Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala talks about a divorce that comes after the first two.And if we count them together we have three. The number three is not metioned if you are wondering about it.
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Those who disagree within the book (ex ahlu sunna wal jame'a, wahhabi salafi etc) are in great opposition to God.
How did you come to this conclusion???? Ahlu sunnah wal jama'a are the manhaj as salaf and there is no such thing as wahabi salafi.
Before using such words how about first recherche who Mohamed Abdul-Wahab rahimahullah is and what he did for islam and for the muslims. People are attacking him and Ibn Tayymiyahrahimahullah cause they said the truth to the people to not worship graves and to stick to the sunnah.
Why use the name Salafee? Is it a call towards a party or a group or a madh-hab (school of thought)? Or is it a new sect in Islaam?
Indeed, the word Salaf is well known in the Arabic language as well as in the religious terminology. But what concerns us here, is its discussion from the religious standpoint. Thus, it has been authentically reported on the Prophet, sallAllaahu 'alayhi wa sallam, that during the sickness from which he died from, he said to Faatimah, radyAllaahu 'anhaa: "So fear Allaah and have patience. And I am the best Salaf (predecessor) for you." [Saheeh Muslim: no. 2450]
For furrther understanding sister I would advice you to listen to this Video to te end it is in arabic with english subtitles.
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There you will inchallah realize the misconceptions that the anti salafi have.
or read this
article:
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Sister this fear will come the more your Emaan grows. With the time the emaan of the sahabah grew so much that they would start to weep when they hear someone saying fear allah. Cause they would immediately be remembered what allahs punishment will be. So with time and with the growing of our emaan we will inchallah reach these state.
We have a lot of scholars who are like Allah described his fearful slaves to be by worshipping him.
That is one of the reasons we should everyday try to strentghen our emaan so that we inchallah will also reach this state by learning more verses from the quran, by learning more from the sunnah, by making less grave sins etc.
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Why should I do this? I'm not here to prove you wrong but rather try to give a good advice to the best of my ability.
Subhanak Allaahuma wa bihamdika ash-hadu anlaa illaaha illa anta astaghfiruka wa atubu ilayk
If I said anything correct, then it is from Allaah (subhanahu wa taa'ala), and if I erred, then that is from me and shaytan.
