Archbishop of Canterbury calls for Islamic law

muselman

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The Archbishop of Canterbury and leader of the world's Anglicans, Rowan Williams, appeared to call for Islamic "sharia" law to be recognised in Britain.

The archbishops said sharia and British law could co-exist and that people should be able to choose which would apply to themselves.

Sharia permits polygamy, for example, easy divorce for men, while it also prohibts the charging of interest on loans by financial institutions. In some areas of the world, sharia mmetes out harsh punishment, including stoning, for crimes against Islam such as adultery, non-Muslim dress, and the consumption of alcohol.

In a February 7 radio interview with the BBC, and in a lecture to British lawyers, the archbishop opened a can of worms in Britain, which has committed troops to fight in Islamic countries and is still smarting from deadly terrorist attacks committed by Islamists.

Said the archbishop, "we have to think a little harder about the role and rule of law in a plural society of overlapping identities", and "
Sharia law in Britain would provide Muslims with an alternative to our divorce courts".

He voiced the possibility of developing "a scheme in which individuals retain the liberty to choose the jurisdiction under which they will seek to resolve certain carefully specified matters, so that power-holders are forced to compete for the loyalty of their shared
"This may include aspects of marital law, the regulation of financial transactions, and authorised structures of mediation and conflict resolution", said the bearded 57-year-old prelate.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown appeared to quickly distance himself from the archbishop's view.

According to a spokesman, "Our general position is that sharia law cannot be used as a justification for committing breaches of English law, nor should the principles of sharia law be included in a civil court for resolving contractual disputes." "The Prime Minister believes British law should apply in this country, based on British values."

The archbishop tried to distance himself from regimes such as Saudi Arabia and Iran where sharia is enforced harshly against adultery and homosexual behavior, for instance. "Nobody in their right mind, I think, would want to see in this country a kind of inhumanity that sometimes appears to be associated with the practice of the law in some Islamic states - the extreme punishments, the attitudes to women as well," he said. Jewish Beth Din courts operate in Britain, but like sharia arrangements in existing in Muslim areas, are voluntary and conducted with the agreement of participants.

The Anglican Bishop of Rochester, Dr. Michael Nazir-Ali, faces death threats following his warning last month about Muslim "no-go areas" in Britain, while Archbishop of York Dr, John Sentamu, a native of Nigeria who has been fiercely critical of Muslim extremists, said in 2007 that "the imposition of sharia law, Britain as a Muslim society - that will never happen".

As for Muslim response, Mohammed Shafiq of the Ramadhan Foundation said "Sharia law for civil matters is something which has been introduced in some western countries with much success; I believe that Muslims would take huge comfort from the Government allowing civil matters being resolved according to their faith."

As for critics such as Bishop Nazi-Ali, a convert from Islam, Shafiq said "We are however disappointed that the Archbishop of Canterbury was silent when Bishop Nazir-Ali was promoting intolerance and lying about no-go areas for Christians in the UK by Muslim extremists" "Unless he speaks out against this intolerance, Muslims will take his silence as authorisation and support for such comments."

Liberal critics of Archbishop Williams included Trevor Phillips of the UK Equality and Human Rights Commission, who said that his comments giv "succour to extremists". In a television interview, Phillips said of the archbishop "He needs to understand that his words carry enormous weight". Members of the Conservative party said that the cleric's remarks were unhelpful.


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PS. watch the video

http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/story/0,,2254591,00.html
 

irish_muslim_08

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AS usual when the words Sharia Law are mentioned in the UK or anywhere for that matter the first thing people think of is the chopping off of thieves hands and the flogging/stoning of people. The Bishop is speaking of using some instances of Sharia Law, principally when it comes to Marriage, Property etc, just one or two principle matters.

If a Catholic couple divorce in the UK their marriage is cancelled by the state, but must also be annulled by the Church or it is seen as void, and in effect they would be unable to remarry. The Bishop is proposing something similar within Islamic Marriages. This has been picked up by the media and has, as usual no surprises here, whipped up with the stoning and the hand cutting off and the whole point of the Bishops message has been lost in translation. I think both the Bishop and the Media have handled it very badly.

Allah, subhaana wa ta'aala, for that reason says, "Call to your Lord with wisdom and with a beautiful admonition, and dispute them in the most excellent of ways." In other words, debate with them and dialogue with them in the most beautiful of ways. Don't be argumentative; don't be cruel; don't be mean; don't humiliate them. Do it ways in which they can listen to the truth, respect the truth, and come to the truth. For this reason, we have to be du'ahtis salaam: people who are callers to peace

I think that while the issue of is one that needs further discussion, the Sharia Courts need to address the recent public rise in 'honour killings' within some communities in the UK. I am not a parent, but I am an uncle and I know that it is important to keep your kids on the straight path and be firm with them, but we must listen to our children and TALK TO THEM. I know that this is oh so slightly off the point, but I thought I would just put it out there.

That they will not steal nor commit zina nor kill their children....(60:12)

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I have a question,
lets say a Muslim left Saudi Arabia to escape punishment and came to England, now will he be punished again if this becomes the law in England? :SMILY309:
Church attendance in the UK is at an all time low, child pregnancies at an all time high, the youth of today have no values, fear and hate of the muslim community steadily increasing, and what does this church leader worry about?

Will the UK ever get back on track?? Interesting to know what his boss, the Quenn Elisabeth, thinks about?

We dont ask them for Sharia in London but we ask them to leave Baghdad:cool:

good point...however the archbishop has already been critisized by the govt for supporting the sharia law....
 
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