Assads Irani and Iraqi Shia Militias are committing Massacres: Syrian Refugees

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    It wasn’t the first time Assad’s tanks had roared into the dusty country town of Al-Laja, a backwater 20 miles north of the Syrian city of Deraa. Families cowering inside their homes thought they knew what to expect: one or two arrests, maybe, and militiamen shooting at villagers’ homes to scare them.

    But what happened 10 days ago was different. The Shabiha militia who followed the tanks tied a suspected army deserter to his motorbike and burnt him alive with paraffin; young men and teenagers old enough to fight for the rebels were dragged into the streets and shot; and two children, a boy aged 12 and his 10-year old sister, were murdered in their home.

    “They stormed the house looking for their father, an officer with the rebel Omari Brigade, but he wasn’t there,” said Abu Shweti, 29. “So they killed his wife and children in revenge. I will never forget the sight. Something inside you dies when you see innocents who have been killed so brutally.”

    It was the danger to his own children from Assad’s killers that persuaded Mr Shweti, and dozens of his neighbours, to flee Syria to safety in Jordan. Ordinary Syrians like them have become accustomed to horror in their bitter civil war. But with the violence suddenly worsening, and taking such a brutal twist — an estimated 1,000 people a week are now being killed, mostly civilians - thousands of families are pouring across Syria’s borders with their families.

    Mr Shweti, a tough Bedouin goat herder, had arrived with his wife and five children, aged between 11 and three, in the Jordanian refugee camp of Zataari a day earlier after spending days on back roads dodging army patrols to reach safety.

    “I brought my children here to protect them from the Shabiha,” he said. “Everyone in this camp has done the same. Here my family is safe. At home they could be killed. When I can I will go back to Syria to fight.”

    The camp is a bleak tent city on a hot, barren plain in the desert a few miles south of the Syrian border, built in August for 100 families. Now 36,000 refugees are crammed behind its barbed wire fence, and the United Nations expects the population to increase to 80,000 by the end of the year. By then the total number of Syrian refugees in Jordan is expected to more than double to 250,000, putting great strain on the nation of 6.5 million which is already home to huge populations of Iraqis and Palestinians who fled from earlier wars.

    Some 500 more Syrians turn up every day at Zaatari, exhausted, hungry, penniless, and with tales of bombings, shellings and atrocities. Aid workers and Jordanian officials fear that far more will arrive as the exodus from Syria swells, especially since Turkey restricted Syrians trying to escape across its border.

    Many of the families who spoke to The Sunday Telegraph said they it was the increasingly grave danger to their children that had finally led them to leave, often after enduring months of brutal repression.

    Refugees told of children being used as human shields, children being murdered by Shia militia with swords, and boys being massacred by security forces frustrated because they couldn’t find their fathers. Teenage boys are at particular risk from regime killers who suspect they may soon join rebels.

    “They kill our children to break our hearts,” said one grandmotherly woman in the tent next to Mr Shweti. Her husband, a farmer with a bristly grey moustache, his head covered with a red-checkered headscarf, nodded grimly in agreement. “It is like Bosnia now, with terrible slaughter,” he added.

    Mr Shweti admitted that, even after months of violence, he had been shaken by what he had seen in his own village.

    “The name of the boy who was killed was Ramadan. I remember him playing with my own sons. It was revenge by them because they couldn’t find his father, and an attempt to terrorise us all.”

    Children in the camp are nearly all traumatised. One of Mr Shweti’s sons, a lively boy called Abdullah, 10, wakes up every night after screaming in his sleep. “Last night he was shouting ‘Get them away from me’,” Mr Shweti said.

    Boys at or near military conscription age are a particular worry for their families. Before, they would hide at home instead of answering the summons to report to army barracks.

    “Everybody is getting their boys out if they are near the age for conscription,” said Abu Mohammed, 39 a carpenter. He didn’t want his two teenage sons to be forced to kill fellow Syrians. “Before, they were safe when we hid them at home. Not any more. Now the security forces search more thoroughly for them.”

    He pulled up his shirt to show two bullet holes, from when he was used as a human shield by militia, he said.

    Other refugees claimed the violence has got much worse in recent weeks as foreign mercenaries have appeared on the streets of their home towns and villages.

    “I saw Iranians with the army in Damascus a month ago,” said Ahmad, 18. “They were devils. They killed a family by cutting their throats — a mother and father and three children, because they supported the rebels. I saw them dead in their house after the Iranians had been inside.”

    He said they looked different to Syrians, with long beards, spoke Arabic with a strong accent, and had ‘Ya Ali’ tattooed on their wrists, in tribute to Ali, the son-in-law of the Prophet Mohammed who is revered by Shias. Other refugees insisted they had seen Hezbollah fighters, from Lebanon, and Iraqi Shia militia.

    Like almost every inhabitant of the refugee camp, Ahmad — who did not want to give his full name for fear of spies — is a Sunni, the majority community in Syria which has led the uprising against the rule of President Assad.

    “When they go to houses the foreign mercenaries don’t talk to anybody. They burn buildings and steal,” he said. “For sure the killing is getting worse, especially since they arrived. It is 100 per cent a religious war now — the Shias have most of the weapons, and they are killing Sunnis and trying to force us out.”

    The conditions in the camp where they flee are grim, the midday heat unbearable in flimsy tents. Sandstorms howl across the barren plain. Aid workers are becoming deeply concerned that the refugees are unprepared for the imminent winter. Soon night time temperatures will be well below freezing, and most of the refugees arrived with just the clothes they fled in — usually just a T-shirt and jeans, or a summer dress.

    Jordanian police had to fire tear gas into the camp last week when furious refugees started a riot because of their living conditions, setting fire to tents and vehicles. Once they are in, Syrians are not allowed to leave. So harsh are conditions in the camp that every night about 100 break out through the barbed wire fence, many returning to take their chances in Syria.

    Refugees have adequate food, with handouts of groceries and communal kitchens now set up, and some cook for themselves. Latrines and showers are crowded and basic, and refugees complain the camp is full of regime informers. Jordanian police keep a rough and ready order, although their main job seems to be to stop refugees getting out.

    Aid workers from the United Nations and other agencies privately admit that the scramble to prepare a camp as refugees flooded in has been difficult, and they fear that there is not enough funding yet to prepare for winter. Foreign donors have not been generous so far, although Morocco has set up medical facilities and Britain has been praised for providing crucial funding for the camp out of £18 million for Syrian refugees.

    “When it becomes cold and starts to snow and rain it is going to be horrible in there,” said one aid worker. “It’s not the worst refugee camp I’ve ever seen but it is going to be a miserable winter for people who have lost everything.”

    Many of the refugees are tough Bedouin who can cope with adversity, but there are also city people who will find the conditions a terrible shock: one woman in a tent was wearing expensive sunglasses and had a fashionable handbag, all that is left of the comfortable life she lived until a few weeks ago.

    At least communal kitchens are being set up where the women can cook rice, beans, and a bit of meat; there were complaints that emergency ration packs of chicken and rice were inedible.

    A million litres of water are being brought in by a fleet of lorries daily, but the operation is expensive and 400 metre deep wells are now being dug - an indication that the authorities believe the camp may become semi-permanent.

    One refugee complained that Lakhdar Brahimi, the UN envoy for Syria, visited Zaatari by helicopter but spent little time with its inmates - some of whom held a demonstration complaining that his attempt to broker a peace deal made him a stooge of the regime. “He went straight to the United Nations people. He didn’t come to speak to us or hear our complaints,” the man said.

    Last month bedraggled refugees crossing the border from war-torn Syria at night were greeted by the startling and far more glamorous sight of Angelina Jolie, the actress, who was on a tour of the Middle East to bring attention to the plight of refugees from Assad’s regime. At least she was trying.

    “Nobody cares about us,” said Abu Iyad, an unshaven man in his thirties wearing a tattered T-shirt. One of his sons was killed last week. “Until the world helps us our suffering will go on.”

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...gee-families-flee-Assads-war-on-children.html
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    :SMILY23: May Allah help them,

    how can someone be soo heartless!! Asad is truly an animal (and the shabiha :mad:.... its soo sad that children under the age of 5 are having to go through this.

    “Nobody cares about us,” said Abu Iyad,

    That just makes me want to cry :(

    May Allah give jannah to all the martyrs of Syria and give victory to our brave brothers and sisters who are fighting against Asad and his thugs ... Ameen
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    May Allah decree severe punishment on the Taghut Bashar al-Assad.
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    can you believe that Muslim rulers need permission from the West in order to help their own people?! People are being attacked in breadlines! Only Allah can save us


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    I cant help but feel that most of this mess could have been avoided via dialouge,yet some decided it was best to fulfill the western Goverments Agenda.

    Too many inncoents have been killed to remove one man,was it worth it? i say No.

    Im more upset with Turkey on this matter too,it was quick to jump into removing Assad,the very man they once supported in the region yet Turkey turned a blind eye to what Israel done to the Turkish civilian on its vessel Mavi.

    The Americans are now pulling support of the Free Syrian Army calling for it to reform or maybe they have realised they cannot remove Assad as easy as they did with Gaddaffi.
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    Assalaam alaikum,

    The Americans have an election in a couple of days. Money is going to be turned over. It will take a couple of months for the new to understand the games of the old.

    The economic crisis in the US is very real. The government has to downplay the international issues for a moment.
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    Walaikum Ssalaam,

    The prediction is that the so called "recession" will be for next 10 years. If we slice the production and consumption in another way. A question arises and we can wonder aloud:
    "Why are we humans, the most intelligent species, while living on - food, air that other species produce and purify, in a crisis!?"
    "Why have we humans, the most intelligent species, while living on - food, air that other species produce and purify, created a crisis!?"

    No easy answers...!
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    Assalaam alaikum,

    So the 1% can enjoy the pain and suffering of the 99%. And many of the 99% are willing to help the 1% to get the table scraps.
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    Brother, its not just one man. Its a whole flock of corrupt birds. Ministers, members of parliament, mayors, generals, colonels, secret police, traffic cops, all the way down to principals of schools. That's how bad the corruption is. Did you know that a traffic cop literally purchases a street from another cop, and is willing to pay thousands of dollars. Why? because high traffic means he can pull over more people (for no reason 90% of the time) and either writes up a 500 SP ticket or they can go free for 200 SP cash on the spot. Of course, to avoid problems, Syrian civilians pull out their wallets and pay cash and drive away.

    I was stranded in the airport because the security moron claimed that he "could not read English" and my American passport is giving him a hard time. That was his excuse. I asked for a solution and he boldly replied, "well, how much money can you pay?"

    He knew I couldn't afford to waste time, so I, being in a vulnerable situation, paid that bastard 1000 SP (about $20 at that time) and he let me go.

    I really hope I can bump into that criminal one day after FSA defeats Assad.


    Thats how it started. Via dialogue. 2 Syrian boys were kidnapped by secret police for spray-painting "freedom" on a wall. and they were tortured by having their fingernails pulled out and raped, and beaten to death. Their fathers went to complain and the response they got was, " Don't worry about it. Bring your women to us and we'll impregnate them for you so you can have new babies."

    Then the revolution started.
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    When the people asked Ali (RA) why they suffer under his leadership yet under the Caliphate of Abu Bakr & Umar (RA) they prospered what was his response? it was because Abu Bakr & Umar (RA) they ruled over people like Ali (RA) but under Ali (RA) leadership he ruled over people like the questioner.

    When we as a people are corrupt Allah Swt gives us Corrupt leaders to rule over us.

    Corruption affects all societies.

    Where is the benefit to the Orphans & Widows of this senseless war? Assad needs to go yes,but it wont happen by force not now,the Americans are getting cold feet because they saw what happened to their Ambassador in Benghazi and are now being warned by the very same people they are trying to remove that other Americans will suffer the same fate as the Ambassador.
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    If the people were ruled by a Muslim, than that rule would apply. But not against a non-muslim. Unless you are insinuating that nusayries, a people who consider Ali to be Allah astugfur'Allah, are muslims.
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    Listen where have i insinuated what you claim?.

    Are the Libyans or Syrians Better off? doubt it very much.
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    Brother Adam Islam needs sacrifice whether we like it or not, this taghut is hated by his people and all Muslims and needs to be removed. Having Islam and being poor is better for a Muslim then having a taghut and living under non Islamic rule.
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    There is a Syrian brother here whos family is still in Syria. He have even said that his grandfathers grave was destroyed just so Iran can build a shia hussieniyat in his home city. Matter of fact this is something I have heard many Syrians, who have said Iranian regime is paying syrian sunni muslim families to convert to Shiaism and that many Iranian men are sent to Syria over the last 4 decades to marry shia syrian women so they can change the demographics of syria into more persian and shia leaning.

    As for Free Syrian Army being payed by CIA or it being an American army. I'm sure you would have supported the same people who were fighting the Soviet Invasion in Afghanistan i.e. Mujahideen who were payed by CIA and America or the Bosnian Muslim Army who were fighting against Serbs in Yugoslavia while at the same time being supported by America and CIA.

    Are Lybians and Syrians better off? If you think having Ghaddafi and his "green book" is more important than the Quran and the Sunnah and being able to build Sunni Masajids and be able to name your child Omar and Ayesha without the fear of them being burned alive, than I guess No. But then again you should ask Lybians and Syrians that question (preferably sunnis of those countries)

    "The Green Book (Arabic: الكتاب الأخضر‎ al-KitÄb al-Aḫá¸ar) is a short book setting out the political philosophy of the former Libyan leader, Muammar Gaddafi. The book was first published in 1975. It was "intended to be required reading for all Libyans."[1] It is said to have been inspired in part by The Little Red Book (Quotations from Chairman Mao)"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Green_Book_(Libya)

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