Fidanzamento

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    Desidero sapere come avviene il fidanzamento tra due musulmani che si riconoscono nel movimento salafita (movimento inteso come corrente di pensiero) ed il percorso da seguire per approdare al matrimonio.

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    ecco la fatwa, ripeto: se c'è qualcosa che non capisci, chiedi pure!

    Engagement according to sharee’ah

    What is the concept of engagement in Islam. Usually an engagement party is one in which the fiance/fiancee exchange rings. Is this the prescribed method in the shariah?.

    Praise be to Allaah.

    Engagement according to sharee’ah means that the man asks the woman to marry him. The view of the scholars is that engagement is prescribed for one who wants to get married. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “And there is no sin on you if you make a hint of betrothal…”

    [al-Baqarah 2:235]

    and it was narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) got engaged to ‘Aa’ishah. (Al-Bukhaari, al-Nikaah, 4793). And in al-Saheeh it also states that the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) got engaged to Hafsah. (Al-Bukhaari, al-Nikaah, 4830).

    The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) encouraged the one who wants to get engaged to look at the woman to whom he wishes to propose. According to the hadeeth, “When any one of you proposes marriage to a woman, if he can look at that which will encourage him to go ahead and marry her, then let him do so.” (Abu Dawood, al-Nikaah, 2082; classed as hasan by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 1832).

    But in Islamic sharee’ah there are no specific practices that must be followed with regard to engagement. What some Muslims do, announcing the engagement, having a party to celebrate and exchanging gifts, all comes under the heading of customs which are permissible in principle, and none of them are haraam except those which sharee’ah indicates are haraam – which includes the exchange of rings between the engaged couple, a custom which is known in Arabic as “dublah.” This custom goes against sharee’ah for the following reasons:

    1 – Some people think that these rings increase the love between the spouses and have an effect on their relationship. This is an ignorant (jaahili) belief and is an attachment to something for which there is no basis in sharee’ah and which does not make sense.

    2 – This custom involves imitating the non-Muslims such as Christians and others. It is not a Muslim custom at all. The Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) warned us against that when he said, “You will inevitably follow the paths of those who came before you, handspan by handspan, cubit by cubit, until even if they entered the hole of a lizard, you will follow them.” We said, “O Messenger of Allaah, (do you mean) the Jews and Christians?” He said, “Who else?” (Narrated by al-Bukhaari, al-I’tisaam bi’l-Kitaab wa’l-Sunnah, 6889; Muslim, al-‘Ilm, 6723).

    And the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever imitates a people is one of them.” (Narrated by Abu Dawood, al-Libaas, 4031; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Abi Dawood, 3401).

    3 – This engagement usually takes place before the ‘aqd (marriage contract), in which case it is not permissible for the man to put the ring on his fiancée’s hand himself, because she is still a stranger (non-mahram) to him, and has not yet become his wife.

    Finally, we will quote the words of Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) on this matter:

    “ ‘Dublah’ is a word that refers to the engagement ring. In principle there is nothing wrong with rings (i.e., they are permissible), unless they are accompanied by certain beliefs, as some people do when the man writes his name on the ring that he gives to his fiancée, and the woman writes her name on the ring that she gives to her fiancé, believing that this will guarantee the bonds between the spouses. In this case this ‘dublah’ or engagement ring is haraam, because it represents an attachment to something for which there is no basis in sharee’ah and which does not make sense. Similarly it is not permissible for the man to put the ring on the woman’s hand himself, because she is not yet his wife, so she is still a stranger (i.e., non-mahram) to him; she is not his wife until after the marriage contract is done.”

    Al-Fataawa al-Jaami’ah li’l-Mar’ah al-Muslimah, 3/914.
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    Penso di essere riuscito, a grandi linee, a comprendere il contenuto della fatwa. Non mi e' pero' chiaro come possano conoscersi due musulmani "ortodossi" dal momento che i contatti tra uomini e donne vengono scoraggiati se non impediti. Grazie per eventuali delucidazioni !.

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    The Limit of What can be seen of the Woman Whom One Seeks to Marry

    by Sheikh Ibn Baz, May Allah have Mercy on him

    Question: If a young man proposes marriage to a young lady is it obligatory that he sees her? Also, is it correct that the young lady uncover her head to show more of her beauty to her proposing fiance? Please benefit us and may Allaah benefit you.

    Answer: There is no harm (in the man seeing her), however it is not obligatory. Rather, it is recommended that he sees her and she sees him, because the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) commanded the one who proposed marriage to look at the woman. This is because that is better for causing agreement and harmony between them. So if she uncovers her face for him, and her hands and her head, there is no harm in that according to the correct opinion. Some of the people of knowledge have said that it is sufficient for her to uncover the face and the two hands. However, the correct opinion is that there is no harm in him seeing her head, face, hands and feet, based upon the mentioned hadeeth (above). However, this is not permissible with him being alone with her. Rather, her father, or brother, or someone else must be with them. This is because the Prophet (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) said, "A man must never be alone with a woman unless there is someone who is a Mahram with them." (Agreed upon in Saheeh Al-Bukhaaree and Saheeh Muslim.) He (Sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam) also said, "A man must never be alone with a woman, for verily the Satan is their third." (At-Tirmithee and Ahmad)

    Source: Sheikh ibn Baz, Al-Fataawaa ash-Shar'iyyah fil-Masaa'il il-'Asriyyah min Fataawaa 'Ulamaa' il-Balad il-Haraam, pp. 498-499. Translated by Aqeel Walker
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    Ti presenti al mahram(che può essere il fratello,il padre,il nonno o lo zio) della ragazza e gli proponi le tue intenzioni. Ulteriormente se suo padre(che è il mahram principale, se non c'è lui si va dal fratello o dallo zio) è d'accordo con il consenso della ragazza allora si stipula il contratto matrimoniale.
    Comunque dalla presentazione, alla frequentazione della ragazza accompagnata da un mahram, fino al raggiungimento (se tutti sono d'accordo) del matrimonio, di tempo è passato abbastanza. C'è bisogno di un periodo per conoscersi, perché questo è molto importante per poi non pentirsi dopo. Siamo tutti musulmani, però i caratteri delle persone sono diversi. Se hai trovato l'equilibrio allora sei fortunato.

    Riguardo alla tua domanda, di movimenti salafiti io non né ho mai sentiti parlare fino ad ora.
    Se ti riferisci al credo e alla metodologia dei pii predecessori (manhaj wa aqida salafiya) nel contrarre il matrimonio , allora si , inshallah Allah ti ricompenserà se la tua intenzione (niyya) è sincera. Fai tante suppliche ad Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, perché Egli ricompensa abbondantemente chi gli chiede qualcosa, per di più a un musulmano che è straniero in un altro paese.


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