fortune tellers

lostlilly07

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I have a friend/muslim who loves going to palm readers and fortune tellers. now i already explain to heard it is Haram but she claims they are telling the truth. So what I want to know is it true that Fortune tellers have made ties to jinn who listen out to secrets in heavens. I am trying to explain to her that is why fortune tellers know tibits of truth but it is still haram.
 

Abel213

Junior Member
Fortune tellers can't tell your future, but they can tell you about your current situation and your entire past by using your qareen(jinn companion).

Edit: The jinn used to be able to listen to the heavans, but not anymore as seen here:

Quran 72:9 'We used, indeed, to sit there in (hidden) stations, to (steal) a hearing; but any who listen now will find a flaming fire watching him in ambush.
 

ShyHijabi

Junior Member
Salaam,

Brothers and sister I think you give a lot of these people too much credit. Most "fortune tellers" tell you what you want to hear or are so vague they could tell anyone their "prediction" and be true. For instance someone could say, "I see something new coming up in your life, a change." Well DUH, everyone is experiencing something new all the time, that's how life works.

If your friend knows they are haraam and still chooses to go then she is committing a grave sin. Ask her how much she will enjoy her punishment in hell for putting faith in the babblings of a human?

Wasalaam

~Sarah
 

Musulmanin

Junior Member
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"The knowledge of the unseen is an Attribute of Allah the Almighty Only. None in the heavens and on earth knows the unseen except Allah. Many of these "so called" healers claim to know many things of the unseen, and to believe such people could lead one to kufr (disbelief). Muhammad (s.a.w) has said, "One who resorts to an arraf (fortune-teller) and asks him about anything, Salaah (Prayer) will not be accepted from him for forty days." (Muslim)"

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abu'muhammad

Junior Member
Fortune-Telling

Fortune-telling is the belief that some people possess the ability of telling
other people what will happen to them in the future by using magical or mystical methods. These rulings also apply to people who claim knowledge of the unseen, such as geomancers, palmists, shell-diviners, etc.


A fortune-teller uses devils who eavesdrop in the Heavens; Allah says in the
Qur'an: 'Shall I inform you (O people!) Upon whom the devils) descend' They
descend on every lying, sinful person. Who lends an ear (to the devils and they pour what they may have heard of the Unseen from the angels), and most of them are liars.' (26:221-223)


This knowledge of what the angels may have said is then passed to thepeople who are often prepared to believe what the fortune-teller says. The problem is that what people believe is true, has been embellished or changed, omitting the truth.


Ruling:

Fortune-telling is considered 'Shirk Akbar' (the major and serious form of
polytheism) for two reasons. First, it implies the acquisition of knowledge of
the Unseen, which is unique to Allah, (alone). 'Say: 'None in the Heaven and the Earth knows the Ghaib (unseen) except Allah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected.'

(Qur?an 27: 65).


This means that any one who believes that he possesses such knowledge is
certainly claiming the acquisition of a Divine attribute that Allah (alone)
possesses. Second, it involves using devils and holding fast to them, a ritual
that can only be perfected when the performer is in complete submission to that damned species. This is a form of polytheism.


The Danger of Attending Fortune-Telling Assemblies

In recent years, the number of fortune-tellers has dramatically increased, only being outnumbered by those who attend their assemblies and believe what they are told. Some people are fascinated and impressed by observing those who cannot miss the opportunity to make fortunes out of imparting their fabrications. People who attend fortune-telling assemblies are divided into three groups:


Those who go to fortune-tellers to ask them about the future without truly
believing in their falsehoods and without having the slightest intention of
disclosing their falsehood to the public. People in this group are sinful and
their prayers are not accepted for forty days.


Those who believe in the prophecies of the fortune-tellers and go to ask them about the future. These people are regarded as disbelievers since they deny the truthfulness of the Qur'an: 'Say: None in the Heavens and the Earth Knows the Ghaib (Unseen) except Allah.' (27: 65)


Those who go to fortune-tellers and only ask them in order to examine the
truthfulness of their prophecies; then disclose their deceit to the public.
These types of people publicize that fortune-tellers only offer misguidance that can make believers go astray.


However, if someone uncertain that he is capable to take on such a task and
accomplish it perfectly, he should not attempt it. Such a weighty undertaking
could pose a risk to himself, and result in failure that may likely tempt people
even further.

From: Al JUMUAH VOL 12/13 ISSUE 12/1
 

OsMaN_93

Here to help
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The saheeh ahaadeeth indicate that it is haraam to go to fortune-tellers and soothsayers, and to ask them questions and believe them. For example, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever goes to a fortune-teller and asks him about something, his prayer will not be accepted for forty days.” Narrated by Muslim (2230).

And he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever has intercourse with a menstruating woman or with a woman in her back passage, or goes to a fortune-teller and believes him, has disbelieved in what Allaah revealed to Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).” Narrated by Ahmad (9779), Abu Dawood (3904), al-Tirmidhi (135) and Ibn Maajah (939). Classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh Ibn Maajah.

Al-Baghawi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The fortune-teller is the one who claims to have knowledge of things by means of certain practices which will lead him to know where stolen and lost items are, etc. Quoted in al-Zawaajir ‘an Iqtiraafal-Kabaa’ir (2/178).

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: The fortune-teller (al-‘arraaf): it was said that this refers to the soothsayer (al-kaahin), who is the one who foretells the future.

And it was said that this is a general term which includes soothsayers, astrologers, geomancers and the like, who claim to have knowledge of the unseen by means of certain practices that they use. This is a more general meaning and is indicated by the derivation of the word, which is derived from ma’rifah (knowledge), so it applies to all those who deal with these things and claim to have knowledge of them. End quote from al-Qawl al-Mufeed ‘ala Kitabal-Tawheed (2/48).

Trying to find out the identity of the thief in the manner described is a kind of soothsaying and fortune-telling which is haraam, as it relies on using the services of the jinn and trusting them. You should not be deceived by the fact that the fortune-teller recites Qur’aan, because this is just a trick that these followers of falsehood use.
http://islamqa.com/en/ref/60431/fortune tellers
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