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    :salam2:

    I came across this website while trying to find a dua for my friend and wanted to know your thoughts.
    it seems a little strange because I have never heard of this.


    DU-A'A 225

    If there is no birth of a child for a long time take two boiled eggs (chicken) take off the cover and write with saffron verse 47 of adh Dhariyat on one egg and give to the wife to eat; then write with saffron verse 48 of ad Dhariyat on the other egg and give it to the husband to eat. Do this for 40 consecutive days.


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    Walaykum Salaam
    I wouldn't do that if it has no Qur'an/Sunnah evidence. Since they haven't provided any (except from scholars who themselves have no evidence for what they're saying), you shouldn't do it in order to avoid Bid'ah.
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    Assalamu alaikum,

    All of what is mentioned is pure nonsense. :astag:
    That is a shi`ah website. Unfortunately, many of the websites giving supplications are shi`ah websites. This is a link to a site which has supplications based on the Qur`aan and Sunnah. It is ''Hisn Al-Muslim'' in English. I am sure other brothers and sisters will mention more.

    http://www.ozkorallah.net/subject.asp?hit=1&lang=ar&parent_id=47&sub_id=1255
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    It sounds like a pagan ritual or just superstition - like an old wives tale.
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    :salam2:

    thank you for your replies, yes, I thought it was a little odd. I will visit the link provided inshallah.
    Thank you.
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    Just a quick tip, Islam is a religion of common sense, everything has a sensible reason.......right???? So if you get a strong feeling in your bones that its strange, then it probably aint good.You have to sk ur self, what would be the reason for this.

    I remeber once I went to a "different" mmosque, just to check it out and to se what they did. I got offere an orange after, the young sister who was offering it to me insisted that i take it. I refused and she said some thing had been read on it by a holy man. I then saw the box of oranges and mot of them were roting....yuck!!!

    I was on my way home and I asked myself....so what exactly has been read on i????
    Why does a holy man need to ead on it, am i not capable of doing this myelf???
    lol, i went to the mosque again,was taking a nearly revert to a friends kids janaza. We got locked in and it took about 20 mins for us to get out.!!!!!!
    Won't got there again!!!!
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    Salam calikum

    I know what your trying to say bro/or sis...but you are wrong about islam being common sense or logical. Ali r.a said if islam was common sense or logical than when we make wudu and we are wearing socks or shoes we would wipe the bottom instead of the top, but we wipe the top because it was they way of our beloved prophet s.a.w . So what im saying is yeah i know what you mean and i agree with u on not eating that orange, but islam isnt about common sense it is submitting to the Deen of Allah and following the footsteps of the messenger s.a.w

    Salam calikum
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    Asslamo Allaikum All,

    I don’t mean to offend anyone but if you watch Dr Zakir Naik’s debate with a Hindu Priest (Jain) about “Vegetarian/Non-Vegetarian Diet…towards the end in the question/answer session one of the Muslim Sister confronts the Jain preacher about a similar procedure (minus the Ayat of the Qaur’aan off course) which is listed in Jain (Hindu) booklet which is on sale in the foyer (where the debate is taking place) and the Muslims sister mocks him and challenges him to prove it to be scientific...

    Since the Jain preacher cannot defend it; he answers that the book is not personally written by him so he can’t answer the question.

    I have paraphrased the incident to the best of my memory but please refer to the DVD to watch the whole thing in full.

    Jazakullah Khairun

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    Yes but what im saying is that with everything there is a reason.

    Would our socks not pick up bits off the floor if the bottoms were damp from wiping????????

    By the way before everyone starts shouting at me....... it is just a suggestion.
    :wasalam:
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    For couples with infertility:

    You may pray the du’aa’ of Zakariya (peace be upon him), who said:

    “Rabbi laa tadharni fardan wa anta khayr ul-waaritheen (O my Lord! Leave me not single (childless), though You are the Best of the inheritors).” This is a beautiful du’aa’ which is very appropriate in this case. Also suitable is another prayer of Zakariya: “Rabbi hab li min ladunka dhurriyyatan tayyibatan innaka samee’ al-du’aa’ (O my Lord! Grant me from You a good offspring. You are indeed the All-Hearer of invocation).”

    The story of Zakariya contains valuable lessons for us. Allaah has told us this story in several places in the Qur’aan. For example, in Soorat Aal ‘Imraan, where He tells us about Maryam (peace be upon her) He says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “So her Lord (Allaah) accepted her [Maryam] with goodly acceptance. He made her grow in a good manner and put her under the care of Zakariya. Every time he entered al-mihrab [a praying place or private room] to (visit) her, he found her supplied with sustenance. He said, ‘O Maryam! From where have you got this?’ She said, ‘This is from Allaah.’ Verily, Allaah provides sustenance to whom He wills, without limit.

    At that time Zakariya invoked his Lord, saying: ‘O my Lord! Grant me from You a good offspring. You are indeed the All-Hearer of invocation.’

    Then the angels called him, while he was standing in prayer in al-mihrab, (saying): ‘Allaah gives you glad tidings of Yahya, confirming (believing in) the Word from Allaah [i.e., the creation of ‘Eesaa], noble, keeping away from sexual relations with women, a Prophet, from among the righteous.’

    He said, ‘O my Lord! How can I have a son when I am very old and my wife is barren?’ Allaah said: ‘Thus Allaah does what He wills.’

    He said: ‘O my Lord! Make a sign for me.’ Allaah said: ‘Your sign is that you shall not speak to mankind for three days except with signals. And remember your Lord much, and glorify (Him) in the afternoon and in the morning.’”[Aal ‘Imraan 3:37-41]

    In Soorat Maryam, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “(This is) a mention of the mercy of your Lord to His slave Zakariya.

    When he called out to his Lord (Allaah) – a call in secret,

    Saying, ‘My Lord! Indeed my bones have grown feeble, and grey hair has spread on my head, and I have never been unblest in my invocation to You, O my Lord!

    And verily! I fear my relatives after me, since my wife is barren. So give me from Yourself an heir, -

    Who shall inherit me, and inherit (also) the posterity of Ya’qoob [inheritance of religious knowledge and Prophethood]. And make him, my Lord, one with whom You are well-pleased!’

    (Allaah said): ‘O Zakariya! Verily, We give you the glad tidings of a son. His name will be Yahya. We have given that name to none before (him).’

    He said, ‘My Lord! How can I have a son, when my wife is barren, and I have reached the extreme old age?’

    He said, ‘So (it will be). Your Lord says: It is easy for Me, Certainly, I have created you before, when you had been nothing!’

    [Zakariya] said: ‘My Lord! Appoint for me a sign.’ He said, ‘Your sign is that you shall not speak unto mankind for three nights, though having no bodily defect.’

    Then he came out to his people from al-mihrab [a praying-place or private room] and told them by signs to glorify Allaah’s Praises in the morning and in the afternoon.”[Maryam 19:2-11]

    In Soorat al-Anbiya’, Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “And (remember) Zakariya, when he cried to his Lord: ‘O my Lord! Leave me not single (childless), though You are the Best of the inheritors.’

    So We answered his call, and We bestowed upon him Yahya, and cured his wife (to bear a child) for him. Verily, they used to hasten on to do good deeds, and they used to call on Us with hope and fear, and used to humble themselves before Us.”

    [al-Anbiya’ 21:89-90]

    Thinking about the story of Zakariya (peace be upon him) is very beneficial for anyone who is infertile. One may also ponder the story of Ibraaheem and his wife Saarah, whom Allaah rewarded for their patience with Ishaaq when Ibraaheem was very old. He was also given another son, Ismaa’eel. Allaah tells us that His khaleel (friend) said (interpretation of the meaning):

    “All praises and thanks be to Allaah, Who has given me in old age Ismaa’eel and Ishaaq. Verily! My Lord is indeed the All-Hearer of invocations.”[Ibraaheem 14:39]

    In all situations, the Muslim should accept and be content with the decree of Allaah, even if he is to remain infertile for the rest of his life. It could be that his patience may be better for him than a child. Everything that Allaah decrees has wisdom and a reason behind it, and everything is subject to His Will and Command. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “To Allaah belongs the kingdom of the heaven and the earth. He creates what He wills. He bestows female (offspring) upon whom He wills, and bestows male (offspring) upon whom He wills.

    Or He bestows both males and females, and He renders barren whom He wills. Verily, He is the All-Knower and is Able to do all things.”

    [al-Shoora 42:49-50]

    May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.

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    Sheikh Muhammed Salih Al-Munajjid
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    Asslamo Allaikum,

    Masha'Allah Happy 2BA Muslim; May Allah (SWT) reward you for your efforts (Ameen)

    All! Stick to the Sunnah & you cannot go wrong
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    yes, this sounds very much like alot of pagan fertility rituals. As far as I can see, this has nothing to do with our deen. I would avoid it. When making du'a to Allah Ta'ala, it isn't neccesary to say incantations or write "spells" on anything. Actually, I thought all of that was expressly forbidden in the Holy Qu'aran, isn't it?
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    I beleive all of that is very much forbbiden, :astag:
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    Aslam O alikum

    I do not see the need to do all that. Why dont you just ask Allah for what you want. He is closer to you than your cardinal vein.

    Wsalam
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    As Salaamu Alaykum
    I doubt that the Shi'ites even do this...
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    This is un islamic ritual......Islam teaches that Allah swt is the creator so call Allah directly .....I know many sisters who had no children at the begining of their life but they continue to say duaa to Allah swt till their prayers were answered AlhamduliAllah .....tell your freind never to give up duaa and to have trust and hope in her creator(Allah swt) ......if we cure our hearts by true faith .....then all our problems will be solved.
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    Asslamo Allaikum,

    Has anyone got the Dr Zakir Naik DVD and his debate with the Hindu (Jain) priest about vegetarianism?

    Please see Questions/Answers session where the Muslim Sister is clearly enjoying herself take the Mick (Translation for Americans: make fun) over this issue of egg & fertility.

    I think even the Audience were enjoying themselves.

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