help...want to convert

ommtalel

New Member
hello everyone,
(i would like to say to i have only recently started to really learn about islam, so i apologise from now if i use the wrong terms, i do not do it to offend but out of ignorance)
this is a wonderfull website, i have been through many of the threads , and i must admit that i am confused and shocked at learning the truth, and at the same time happy that we live in a world today that all this knwledge is at my fingertips, amazing, we are truly lucky and blessed.
both my husband and i are not "born" muslims, since last year i have been on a spiritual rollercoaster, trying to find the truth, not happy in my heart with all that i have been thought all my life(i am maltese born into a christian family).
my husband (is syrian was born into a druze family), until recently ,there is no other word to decribe him excpet far away and cut off.
i went to a local pastor. trying to find truth, peace and reason but again i was disspointed.
when i asked the pastor,
"is it not enough for me to praise and believe in God swt?is it not enough that we live a good life and that we obey and believe only in Him?"
his answer to my dismay was (his words, not mine!) "no it is not enough! it is not enough that we believe in God and that we live good lives. you must believe in jesus christ, and accept him as your saviour"
i asked "but didnt God create us? isnt He our saviour?"
his answer was a plain no
this put me into shock, for many days a would just cry, depression and fear all over me
then one night i started to pray, i prayed in the only that i know how to pray
i thanked God swt for all His blessings, asked God swt to forgive me and to be patient, and i prayed that God swt would be mercyfull and show me and my husband His path, the path that we should follow so that we would truly be glorifying Him and be saved
i did this for a bit over a month, then one day i my husband called me from work, he told me that he was going to go with his muslim friends to a mosque and pray, and I just started to cry out of happiness
he has converted to islam, and you can see the difference in his face, he just seems at peace he is helping me to convert aswell, he want me to find the peace and happiness that he has found...he is truly a changed man , praise be to God swt
i am about to convert, but unfortunatley there are stil some things, christian beliefs that i have heard all my life that are just diificult to ignore
like the belief of original sin(i have 2 young children both of which i have not yet baptised)
or all the people giving testimony to have been saved and healed by jesus
but was really scares me is this book written by mary katherine baxter, who say that jesus came for her and took her to hell and heaven, ther are even video clips of her making statements on the internet
unfortunately and hopefully once i get over these things i will be able to truly and honestly be able to say that i have converted
i would be thankfull for any advice
may God swt bless you all
 

Rashadi

Junior Member
hello everyone,
(i would like to say to i have only recently started to really learn about islam, so i apologise from now if i use the wrong terms, i do not do it to offend but out of ignorance)
this is a wonderfull website, i have been through many of the threads , and i must admit that i am confused and shocked at learning the truth, and at the same time happy that we live in a world today that all this knwledge is at my fingertips, amazing, we are truly lucky and blessed.
both my husband and i are not "born" muslims, since last year i have been on a spiritual rollercoaster, trying to find the truth, not happy in my heart with all that i have been thought all my life(i am maltese born into a christian family).
my husband (is syrian was born into a druze family), until recently ,there is no other word to decribe him excpet far away and cut off.
i went to a local pastor. trying to find truth, peace and reason but again i was disspointed.
when i asked the pastor,
"is it not enough for me to praise and believe in God swt?is it not enough that we live a good life and that we obey and believe only in Him?"
his answer to my dismay was (his words, not mine!) "no it is not enough! it is not enough that we believe in God and that we live good lives. you must believe in jesus christ, and accept him as your saviour"
i asked "but didnt God create us? isnt He our saviour?"
his answer was a plain no
this put me into shock, for many days a would just cry, depression and fear all over me
then one night i started to pray, i prayed in the only that i know how to pray
i thanked God swt for all His blessings, asked God swt to forgive me and to be patient, and i prayed that God swt would be mercyfull and show me and my husband His path, the path that we should follow so that we would truly be glorifying Him and be saved
i did this for a bit over a month, then one day i my husband called me from work, he told me that he was going to go with his muslim friends to a mosque and pray, and I just started to cry out of happiness
he has converted to islam, and you can see the difference in his face, he just seems at peace he is helping me to convert aswell, he want me to find the peace and happiness that he has found...he is truly a changed man , praise be to God swt
i am about to convert, but unfortunatley there are stil some things, christian beliefs that i have heard all my life that are just diificult to ignore
like the belief of original sin(i have 2 young children both of which i have not yet baptised)
or all the people giving testimony to have been saved and healed by jesus
but was really scares me is this book written by mary katherine baxter, who say that jesus came for her and took her to hell and heaven, ther are even video clips of her making statements on the internet
unfortunately and hopefully once i get over these things i will be able to truly and honestly be able to say that i have converted
i would be thankfull for any advice
may God swt bless you all

MashaAllah I am so happy to hear you found truth in Islam and congratulations to ur husband. In Islam there is no original sin or nothing like that.
 

Almeftah

Junior Member
السلام على من اتبع الهدى

Many disbelievers were not meant to find this path of righteousness and truth.. So it would be the greatest gift of life, To be guided by Allah to the right path, where the truth is clear to us.
 

a_stranger

Junior Member
AlhamduliAllah for his guidance
Dear sister Allah swt is just how come that he ascribe a sin to a creature who has done nothing yet : It is our deeds that make us win or loose :

35:18 AND NO BEARER of burdens shall be made to bear another’s burden; and if one weighed down by his load calls upon [another] to help him carry it, nothing thereof may be carried [by that other], even if it be one’s near of kin. Hence, thou canst [truly] warn only those who stand in awe of their Sustainer although He is beyond the reach of their perception, and are constant in prayer, and [know that] whoever grows in purity, attains to purity but for the good of his own self, and [that] with God is all journeys’ end.

Translation of the meanings of Quran
 

salahdin

Junior Member
Hi and welcome to this wonderful site were one can learn islam in its purest form, take a trip on this site and you will find answers you are looking for or ask the members and you will get help. One thing for sure is that you are one in a million: And the reason is this


Surah 29:69

As for those who strive in Us, We surely guide them to Our paths, and lo! Allah is with the good

Surah 25:57

Say: I ask of you no reward for this, save that whoso will may choose a way unto his Lord.



so you have been guided and choosen a way to the right path ISLAM . Dont wait follow your heart .

Surah 39:7

If ye are thankless, yet Allah is Independent of you, though He is not pleased with thanklessness for His bondmen; and if ye are thankful He is pleased therewith for you. No laden soul will bear another's load. Then unto your Lord is your return; and He will tell you what ye used to do. Lo! He knoweth what is in the breasts (of men).


Surah 17:72

Whoso is blind here will be blind in the Hereafter, and yet further from the road.
 

Mohsin

abdu'Allah
Sister,

A very warm welcome to the forum. I pray to Allah SWT that He guide you to his Deen (religion). Brother already quoted you a verse from Quran clearly telling that Allah burdens not anyone with the burden of someone else. The concept of Original Sin was never mentioned by any of the prophets (peace be upon them all) in the Old Testament nor by Jesus (peace be upon him) anywhere. It is an innovated belief introduced by later people. We see little development of the teaching of original sin before the end of the fourth century a.d. The concept of original sin was popularized by Augustine, Bishop of Hippo, a.d. 354-431.

It has many bearings on the other innovated beliefs in Christianty like the one you told us about in your post i.e. Jesus the Saviour and that he gave his life for your sins. Now this belief that Jesus gave his life for your sins is interrelated to the belief of Original Sin and they all are related to another and the biggest of issue that the Christians faced back then. It was the central belief of following the law to be successful in this life and hereafter for every follower of Jesus.

When Paul took Christianity to the Gentiles (Non-Jews) the biggest problem he faced in converting them was the Law as it was quite strict. One God, no intermediary, no fornication, no interest or usuary, no drinking then giving your hard earned wealth in charity, freeing the slaves and lot more of sacrifices. It was a lot of patience and sacrifice to be really follow the true religion and this was coming in the way of conversion. So he and his likes invented a lot of beliefs contrary to the teachings of the Prophets (peace be upon them all). This was the reason he many times calls the law a curse whereas Jesus (peace be upon him) says that the one who follows the law will enter the kingdom of God.

They come up with the idea that Jesus gave up his life for our sins and that you accept it and you enter the paradise. The very reason behind this innovated belief was to take away the law from them so they maybe free to do whatever they want and still just by believing that Jesus gave his life for their sins can enter the paradise.

I give another proof from the OT that this beleif was never supported by any scripture and is an innovated beleif.
Ezekiel 18

1The word of the LORD came unto me again, saying,
2What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?
3As I live, saith the Lord GOD, ye shall not have occasion any more to use this proverb in Israel.
4Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
5But if a man be just, and do that which is lawful and right,
6And hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, neither hath defiled his neighbour's wife, neither hath come near to a menstruous woman,
7And hath not oppressed any, but hath restored to the debtor his pledge, hath spoiled none by violence, hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment;
8He that hath not given forth upon usury, neither hath taken any increase, that hath withdrawn his hand from iniquity, hath executed true judgment between man and man,
9Hath walked in my statutes, and hath kept my judgments, to deal truly; he is just, he shall surely live, saith the Lord GOD.
10If he beget a son that is a robber, a shedder of blood, and that doeth the like to any one of these things,
11And that doeth not any of those duties, but even hath eaten upon the mountains, and defiled his neighbour's wife,
12Hath oppressed the poor and needy, hath spoiled by violence, hath not restored the pledge, and hath lifted up his eyes to the idols, hath committed abomination,
13Hath given forth upon usury, and hath taken increase: shall he then live? he shall not live: he hath done all these abominations; he shall surely die; his blood shall be upon him.
14Now, lo, if he beget a son, that seeth all his father's sins which he hath done, and considereth, and doeth not such like,
15That hath not eaten upon the mountains, neither hath lifted up his eyes to the idols of the house of Israel, hath not defiled his neighbour's wife,
16Neither hath oppressed any, hath not withholden the pledge, neither hath spoiled by violence, but hath given his bread to the hungry, and hath covered the naked with a garment,
17That hath taken off his hand from the poor, that hath not received usury nor increase, hath executed my judgments, hath walked in my statutes; he shall not die for the iniquity of his father, he shall surely live.
18As for his father, because he cruelly oppressed, spoiled his brother by violence, and did that which is not good among his people, lo, even he shall die in his iniquity.
19Yet say ye, Why? doth not the son bear the iniquity of the father? When the son hath done that which is lawful and right, and hath kept all my statutes, and hath done them, he shall surely live.
20The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
21But if the wicked will turn from all his sins that he hath committed, and keep all my statutes, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
22All his transgressions that he hath committed, they shall not be mentioned unto him: in his righteousness that he hath done he shall live.
23Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?
24But when the righteous turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and doeth according to all the abominations that the wicked man doeth, shall he live? All his righteousness that he hath done shall not be mentioned: in his trespass that he hath trespassed, and in his sin that he hath sinned, in them shall he die.
25Yet ye say, The way of the LORD is not equal. Hear now, O house of Israel; Is not my way equal? are not your ways unequal?
26When a righteous man turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.
27Again, when the wicked man turneth away from his wickedness that he hath committed, and doeth that which is lawful and right, he shall save his soul alive.
28Because he considereth, and turneth away from all his transgressions that he hath committed, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
29Yet saith the house of Israel, The way of the LORD is not equal. O house of Israel, are not my ways equal? are not your ways unequal?
30Therefore I will judge you, O house of Israel, every one according to his ways, saith the Lord GOD. Repent, and turn yourselves from all your transgressions; so iniquity shall not be your ruin.
31Cast away from you all your transgressions, whereby ye have transgressed; and make you a new heart and a new spirit: for why will ye die, O house of Israel?
32For I have no pleasure in the death of him that dieth, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.


KJV
This chapter not only tells that Original Sin is an innovated belief but it also tells us the importance of following the law given to us by God Almighty.
 

mezeren

Junior Member
hello everyone,

i am about to convert, but unfortunatley there are stil some things, christian beliefs that i have heard all my life that are just diificult to ignore
like the belief of original sin(i have 2 young children both of which i have not yet baptised)
or all the people giving testimony to have been saved and healed by jesus
but was really scares me is this book written by mary katherine baxter, who say that jesus came for her and took her to hell and heaven, ther are even video clips of her making statements on the internet
unfortunately and hopefully once i get over these things i will be able to truly and honestly be able to say that i have converted
i would be thankfull for any advice
may God swt bless you all

:salam2:

Wellcome to tti.i hope that your visit will be beneficial for you and Allah guide you to the truth.

i think it must be so easy to ignore believes like the original sin because it makes no sense at all,well, at least for me.in islam babies are born pure and sinless and any child who dies before the age of puberty goes directly to the heaven regardles of the religion of his/her parents.So,your children are like angels.And that makes sense,well,for me.i have to say i love this religion.

Take care.
 
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