Is it permissible or not

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    I just want to know is is permissible for a non muslim to touch Koran without making an ablution ?
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    Assalamoalikum

    ofcourse it is permissible, if they don't touch it how can they find the truth in it.
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    Touching Quran

    This is an article about the new masjid, opened in Dubai.


    Non-Muslims flock to sumptuous Abu Dhabi mosque
    6 hours ago

    ABU DHABI (AFP) — Dozens of Westerners, including black-clad women, have been flocking to Sheikh Zayed Mosque in Abu Dhabi, an architectural masterpiece graced with a Persian carpet said to be the biggest in the world.

    "It is the third biggest mosque in the world after the Haramain," boasted the project's deputy head, Khawla al-Suleimani, after Islam's two holiest sites in Saudi Arabia -- Mecca's Grand Mosque and the Prophet's Mosque in Medina.

    But unlike these two mosques, the one named after the United Arab Emirates' late founding father, Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan al-Nahayan, is not off-limits to non-Muslims.

    In fact, the opposite is true, with some provisos.

    Women must cover themselves from head to toe in abayas, or long black robes, handed them at the entrance.

    "And non-Muslims must not touch the Koran," the Muslim holy book, copies of which are stacked in every prayer room, cautions one of the guides[/B]



    Why doesnt they allow the non muslims to touch the Quran ?
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    I am curious about this too. I was not Muslim when I first started reading Qu'ran. I wonder if it has something to do with idle intentions. In other words, these non-muslim people coming in to "appreciate" (or worship) this building and the things in it, may not be considered to have the purest intentions in touching the Holy Qu'ran. Where I wanted a copy of the Qu'ran to help me learn the truth, they merely touch and look at it in idle curousity seeking no true knowledge.

    Just a thought.
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    wat i think,we n they can touch quran without ablution.... but we can not touch the Arabic text without ablution….there is a hadith related to this topic... i dont rem the words....if i will find i'll give a post INSHAALLAH...:)

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    Non-Muslims touching the Qur’aan

    Question:
    is it permissable for a non muslim to read the Quran without the thourough cleansing of self beforehand like a Muslim would?

    Answer:

    Praise be to Allaah.

    The Holy Qur’aan should not be touched by anyone except those who are purified. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Verily, the Mushrikoon (polytheists, pagans, idolaters, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allaah, and in the Message of Muhammad) are Najasun (impure)” [al-Tawbah 9:28]

    On this basis, the kaafir should not be permitted to touch the Qur’aan, whether he is a Christian, a Jew, a Buddhist, a Hindu or anything else. But it is permissible for him to listen to the Qur’aan on radio or TV, or from tapes, and it is permissible for him to read the translations of the meanings of the Qur’aan which are available in different languages.



    Shaykh Ibn Jibreen
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    assalaamwailikum brothers and sister .. plainly i can say is this .. there is some conditions before touching the Quran.. we muslims can touch without waduh/ablution as we know how to keep oneself pure or clean which non-mulims does not .. u know what i mean muslim brothers and sisters ... so what i think is they should first gather knowledge about keeping oneself clean before thouching the Quran or else they can also have access to transalation which is available in many different langauges today... thank you.
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    This makes sense to me and what you said in the last paragraph is interestingt. As I mentioned I had read the english translation of Qu'ran online, but I did not receive my actual copy of Qu'ran until after I took shahada. Allah does know best, and this must truly be of His will as he made certain I was prepared (purified) before I received it.

    Jazak Allah Khair and thank you for this explanation.
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    The Glorious Qur'an says : "That this is indeed a Qur'an most honorable in a book well guarded which none shall touch but those who are clean : A Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds." (Surah Al-Waqi'a, 56:77-80)

    The Kitabim Maknoon mentioned in the above mentioned verse does not refer to the holy Qur'an in the book form, which we have, and the word Mutahhareen does not merely refer to cleanliness of the body.

    Kitabim Maknoon means a book well guarded or a protected book. This word refers to Lauh-e-Mahfooz in heaven, which is also mentioned in the following verse "Nay this is a Glorious Qur'an (Inscribed) in a Tablet Preserved!" (Surah Al-Buruj, 85:21 & 22)

    Mutahhareen does not refer to mere body cleanliness but also refers to those who do not have any uncleanliness or impurity like sin and evil, thus referring to the angels. According to the commentary of Tabari, Mutahhareen means the angels.

    According to Ibne Hazam, who has discussed the subject in detail, there are no pre-requisites or conditions for touching the Qur'an. Although all the scholars, of all different schools of thought, agree upon it without any difference of opinion that it is preferable to be in wudhu before touching the Qur'an, however, according to Ibne Hazam there is not a single verse of the Qur'an or the authentic hadith saying that being in wudhu is compulsory.

    Ibne Abbas, Sho'bi, Zahhaq, Zaid bin Ali, Muayyid Billaah, Dawood, Ibne Hazam and Hammad bin Sulaiman are of the opinion that Qur'an can be touched without performing wudhu.

    (Fiqh-us-Sunnah, As Saiyid Saabiq, 1.52)

    Regarding the hadith of Muwatta Malik which is often quoted by certain scholars to back up their claims that one should be in wudhu before touching the Qur'an, this hadith narration besides being Mursal, has the Arabic word Taahirun in it, which according to Ibne Katheer, Zamakhshari & others, does not necessarily mean being with wudhu but simply means 'pure', that is, one should not be in ceremonial impurity or menstruation.

    Scholars of different schools of thought differ on the issue of whether one should compulsorily be in a state of wudhu while touching the Qur'an. According to Hanafi school of thought, one cannot touch the Qur'an without wudhu, but if one uses a piece of cloth or sheet then he can touch it. Some Hanafi Scholars insist that the cover of the Qur'an itself serves as a covering sheet or cloth, while the others believe that one can touch the Qur'an but not the Arabic text within the Qur'an. Amongst the Shafia scholars, some say that one cannot touch the Qur'an without wudhu, despite using covering sheet. Malikis too believe in some what the same. However, they allow touching the Qur'an without wudhu for students and teachers of the Qur'an.

    It is permissible for a menstruating womam to recite the Qur'an without touching it. Similarly, she can very well recite the portions of the Qur'an, which she does regularly, or even the Ahadith of the prophet (pbuh) . However she shouldn't touch the Qur'an with her hands.

    Ibne Majah narrates a hadith from Abdullah Ibne Umar (R.A.) that a man in a state of ceremonial impurity, and a menstruating lady should not recite anything from the Qur'an, but this hadith is weak.

    Allama Ibne Hajr and Allama Ibnul Mulaqqin have rated the hadith as weak in their books At-Talkheesal Habeer, Vol. 1, pg. no. 138, hadith no. 183 & Khulasatul Badrul Muneer, vol. 1, pg. no. 60, hadith no. 170, respectively.

    However, if a menstruating woman, or a woman with postpartum impurity, wishes to read the Qur'an, then she may use some sheet or cloth while touching the Qur'an so that her hands do not have direct contact with the Qur'an.
    According to Maliki school of thought, while doing hifz of the Qur'an, a man in spite of being in ceremonial impurity or a woman in her menstruation, can touch the Qur'an so that they do not forget the portions of the Qur'an memorised by them. And Allah knows best.
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    I've always had this question to when we say, no-one can touch the "arabic" MusHaf, but they can read the translation.

    What if the non-muslim is an arab seeking to know about Islam and Holy Qur'aan? You give him an English Translation too?

    I guess It wouldn't hurt to tell a non-muslim, preferable shower and purify your intentions to seek knowledge before touching the holy book. Allahu 'Alim. What do you guys think?
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    But what quran can't muslims touch...becuz I been told that my noble quran is not the same valued as a quran in all arabic.
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    asslamo alaiqum warahmatullah wa baraqatuh,
    bismillahirrahmanirrahim.
    this is a common question that, in muslims, some say Qur'an cant be touched and read without ablution, some say it can be read but, cant be touched, and some say Qur'an can be read and touched without ablution(in some conditions). here we have to show proofs, so that we can say that we are forethoughtful. Allah(c.c.) knows best.
    first of all everybody should recognize the fact that Qur'an is the guide to enter the right way to both nonbelievers and believers. and it will be very abnormal to tell a non believer its forbidden to read or touch without ablution while you say him/her you should read Qur'an. and neither did Mohammad(s.a.w.). for example he never ordered to clean themselves to the leaders whom he sent letters. ofcourse those letters including Allah's words too.
    secondly, there are many shaheeh hadiths and many examples in lifes of companions. moreover, Mohammad al Buharee has a special title (to read Qur'an or doing sth. without ablution) in his book Sahehee Buharee. however most of those examples show us only in some special conditions. forexample there are haditdhs which permit a woman in menstruate to read Qur'an. and a nonbeliever is also in his special condition that he/or she doesnt know normal ablution or the ritual ablution of the whole body.
    third, all humans in this world can clean themselves. a nonbeliever can also clean himself just like we muslims do. but what is the difference here_? we intent to Allah(c.c.) to perform our religious acts. in addition, we do all these to gain Allah(c.c.)'s consent and approval. how can we expect from a nonbeliever to clean him/herself with intent and to gain consent of Allah(c.c.) while he/she doesnt believe_?
    and finally, in the light of everything that has mentioned above, a nonbeliever who wants to read Qur'an without ablution is can be acceptable. on the other hand we muslims should be clean everytime.
    Allah(c.c.) knows best.
    assalamu alaiqum warahmatullah wabaraqatuh.
    have a nice days.
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    The Glorious Qur'an says : "That this is indeed a Qur'an most honorable in a book well guarded which none shall touch but those who are clean : A Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds." (Surah Al-Waqi'a, 56:77-80)

    As one brother says this Ayat refers to the Lohi Mahfooz - the protection of the Quran by Allah through angels in the heavens, so that it remains pure for ever and Allah promises that its purity will be guarded. this was revealed to our beloved Prophet Mohammed and Alhamdullilah Allah's miracle that it even today has remained in the same form how it was revealed.

    As i understand, the quran in the form of a book which is in our hands can be touched and read by any non muslim without being in state of cleanliness and if we are giving copy of the quran to a non muslim we could request him to wash his hands and face before reading it.

    Allah knows the best....
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    Etiquettes of touching Quran..

    :salam2:

    As I was looking I found this very usefull information,
    Etiquettes of Reading and Handling the Qur'an al-Kareem
    Imam Muhammad ibn Ahmad Qurtubi

    In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
    By Him we seek Assistance.
    Some people, of the Salafi persuation, consider that it is lawful to handle the Holy Qur'an when not in the state of wudu. As we shall see, this view is contrary to the practices of the real Salaf as-Salihin.
    In Summary
    It is unlawful (haraam) for someone not in the state of wudu to carry a Qur'an, even by a trap or in a box , or touch it, whether its writing, the spaces between its lines, its margins, binding, the carrying strap attached to it, or the bag or box it is in.
    The opinion expressed in Fiqh al-Sunnah that it is permissible to touch the Qur'an without ritual purity is a deviant (shadh) view contrary to all four schools of jurisprudence (fiqh) that is Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i and Hanbali and is impermissible to teach (except to teach that it is deviant).
    It is permissible to carry books of Sacred Law (Shari'ah), hadith, or Qur'anic tafsir, provided that most of their text is not Qur'an.
    One should not use saliva on the fingers to turn the pages of the Qur'an.
    When one fears that a Qur'an may burn, get soaked, that a non-Muslim may touch it, or that it may come into contact with some filth, then one must pick it up if there is no safe place for it, even if one is not in the state of wudu or is in need of the obligatory bath, though performing the dry ablution (tayummum) is wajib if possible.
    It is haraam to use the Qur'an or any book of Islamic knowledge as a pillow.


    Imam Muhammad ibn Ahmad Qurtubi
    says in
    al-Jami' li ahkam al-Qur'an
    [Taken from Reliance of the Traveller]
    It is the inviolability of the Qur'an:
    1. not to touch the Qur'an except in the state of ritual purity in wudu, and to recite it when in a state of ritual purity;
    2. to brush one's teeth with a toothstick (siwak), remove food particles from between the them, and to freshen one's mouth before reciting, since it is the way through which the Qur'an passes;
    3. to sit up straight if not in prayer, and not lean back;
    4. to dress for reciting as if intending to visit a prince, for the reciter is engaged in an intimate discourse;
    5. to face the direction of prayer (qiblah) to recite;
    6. to rinse the mouth out with water if one coughs up mucus or phlegm;
    7. to stop reciting when one yawns, for when reciting , one is addressing one's Lord in intimate conversation, while yawning is from the Devil;
    8. when begining to recite, to take refuge from in Allah from the accursed Devil and say the Basmala, whether one has begun at the first surah or some other part one has reached;
    9. once one has begun, not to interrupt one's recital from moment to moment with human words, unless absolutely necessary;
    10. to be alone when reciting it, so that no one interrupts one, forcing one to mix the words of the Qur'an with replying, for this nullifies the effectivness of having taken refuge in Allah from the Devil at the beginning;
    11. to recite it leisurely and without haste, distinctly pronouncing each letter;
    12. to use one's mind and understanding in order to comprehend what is being said to one;
    13. to pause at verses that promise Allah's favour, to long for Allah Most High and ask of His bounty; and at verses that warn of His punishment to ask Him to save one from it;
    14. to pause at the accounts of bygone peoples and individuals to heed and benefit from their example;
    15. to find out the meanings of the Qur'an's unusual lexical usages;
    16. to give each letter its due so as to clearly and fuLly pronounce every word, for each letter counts as ten good deeds;
    17. whenever one finishes reciting, to attest to the veracity of ones's Lord, and that His messenger (Allah bless him and grant him peace) has delivered his message, and to testify to this, saying: "Our Lord, You have spoken the truth, Your messengers have delivered their tidings, and bear witness to this. O Allah, make us of those who bear witness to the truth and who act with justice": after which one supplicates Allah with prayers.
    18. not to select certain verses from each surah to recite, but rather the recite the whole surah;
    19. if one puts down the Qur'an, not to leave it open;
    20. not to place other books upon the Qur'an, which should always be higher than all other books, whether they are books of Sacred Knowledge or something else;
    21. to place the Qur'an on one's lap when reading; or on something in front of one, not on the floor;
    22. not to wipe it from a slate with spittle, but rather wash it off with water; and if one washes it off with water, to avoid putting the water where there are unclean substances (najasa) or where people walk. Such water has its own inviolability, and there were those of the early Muslims before us who used water that washed away Qur'an to effect cures.
    23. not to use sheets upon which it has been written as bookcovers, which is extremely rude, but rather to erase the Qur'an from them with water;
    24. not to let a day go by without looking at least once at the pages of the Qur'an;
    25. to give one's eyes their share of looking at it, for the eyes lead to the soul (nafs), whereas there is a veil between the breast and the soul, and the Qur'an is in the breast.
    26. not to trivially quote the Qur'an at the occurrence of everyday events, as by saying, for example, when someone comes, "You have come hither according to a decree, O Moses" [Qur'an 69:24],
    or, "Eat and drink heartily for what you have done aforetimes, in days gone by" [Qur'an 69:24], when food is brought out, and so forth;
    27. not to recite it to songs tunes like those of the corrupt, or with the tremulous tones of Christians or the plaintiveness of monkery, all of which is misguidance;
    28. when writing the Qur'an to do so in a clear, elegant hand;
    29. not to recite it out aloud over another's reciting of it, so as to spoil it for him or make him resent what he hears, making it as if it were some kind of competition;
    30. not to recite it in marketplaces, places of clamour and frivolity, or where fools gather;
    31. not to use the Qur'an as pillow, or lean upon it;
    32. not to toss it when one wants to hand it to another;
    33. not to miniaturize the Qur'an, mix into it what is not of it, or mingle this worldly adornment with it by embellishing or writing it with gold;
    34. not to write it on the ground or on walls, as is done in some new mosques;
    35. not to write an amulet with it and enter the lavatory, unless it is encased in leather, silver, or other, for then it is as if kept in the heart;
    36. if one writes it and then drinks it (for cure or other purpose), one should say the Basmala at every breath and make a noble and worthy intention, for Allah only gives to one according to one's intention;
    37. and if one finishes reciting the entire Qur'an, to begin it anew, that it may not resemble something that has been abandoned.
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    Asalam Alakum,

    Excuse you, Please dont give information without prior knowledge...



    The Qur'an itself states that only those who are clean and pure should touch the sacred text: "This is indeed a Holy Qur'an, in a book well-guarded, which none shall touch but those who are clean..." (56:77-79). The Arabic word translated here as "clean" is mutahiroon, a word that is also sometimes translated as "purified".
    Some argue that this purity or cleanliness is of the heart, i.e. that only Muslim believers should handle the Qur'an. However, the majority of Islamic scholars interpret these verses to also refer to a physical cleanliness or purity, which is attained by making formal ablutions (wudu).

    Therefore, most Muslims believe that only those who are physically clean through formal ablutions should touch the pages of the Qur'an.

    As a result of this general understanding, the following "rules" are usually followed when handling the Qur'an:
    1) One should make formal ablutions before handling the Qur'an or reading from its text.

    2) One who is in need of a formal bath (after intercourse or menstrual bleeding) should not touch the Qur'an until after bathing.

    3) A non-Muslim should not handle the sacred text, but may listen to tapes of the Qur'an or handle a translation or exegesis.

    4) Those who are unable to handle the Qur'an based on these reasons should either avoid handling the Qur'an completely, or in necessity hold it while using some sort of barrier covering the hand, such as a cloth or a glove.

    salam,

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