Islam vs. Video Games ?

Ahmed ibn Ibrahim

alhamdulilah
Assalamu Alaikum my dear respected brothers and sisters,

Okay, my turn to humbly ask for some thoughts, advice, and Islamic knowledge regarding an issue that is important to me and how I've lived my life for the past 10 or so years.

When I became a Muslim I immediately stopped many things: Smoking, having an occaisonal beer, negative thinking patterns, associating with "haram people", listening to downloaded music, watching movies ... and even my old favourite passtime: Playing computer games.

Now before you jump at me with Qu'ranic verses and various Haddiths, please allow me an oppourtunity to explain my situation fully, and hear me out on some various thoughts.

Okay, so I know that some "games" are accepted readily in Islam. I see that "tag" is fine. I read that our beloved Prophet PBUH and Aisha used to race each other in the desert. I've notice "word games" here on TTI.com. At my Mosque, there's a Ramadan Competition regarding 30 different Islamic questions with a reward at the end for those who answer all 30 right. I've seen puzzle games being sold at my Mosque. I've even seen one of my Mosque Brother's children playing a "Real-Time Strategy" computer game (with mild violence) at his house. Therefore, I know that at least SOME games are Halal.

Alright, now for my personal history: I started playing computer games when I was about 10 years old, right at the beginning of what has become the Gaming Revolution. Back in the old days, the games were two-dimensional with terrible graphics and repetative gameplay. Gradually things improved, and I always kept an interest in what was new. These days games have improved to the point where you can play in a fully detailed three-dimensional world with endless possibilities, real-life people to meet, quests to embard on, monsters to defeat, enemy players to compete against, equipment/wealth to aquire, knowledge to obtain ... All done with near-perfect smoothness and playability, and in the spirit of having fun while knowing that it's just a game.

I generally spent about 10 hours a week playing these, with more time being spent on the weekends. Rarely did I neglect my other responsibilities, nor have I turned into a violent, incorrehant monster of a human being either. I have noticed certain benefits, too: My spatial reasoning is almost perfect (I scored 98% on the SAT and IQ tests), I have a tactical/logical mind and am easily able to solve problems in effecient sequence, I despise evil and love what is good, I've aquired effective self-defense/strategy training through the years, crisis situations do not cause me to freeze up or be unable to solve effectively, I've enjoyed myself playing games other kids my age were listening to Eminem and smoking drugs... I'm sure I could think of a few more positives, but you get you idea.

I can think of some negatives, too: I've seen some of the more grusome sides of humanity, I've been exposed to various garbage myths and pagan tales, I've seen and participated in virtual violence, I've been around some very twisted individuals who say some very weird things while playing

Recently I've been playing only one game, Dark Age of Camelot. I generally keep to myself, though I'm concidering (if I do go back and play it) starting up a new Muslim guild (group of players) in the game to fascilitate a more Islamic environment. My wife has enjoyed playing this game with me in the past. I always play the "good guys", with it being in my heart that I'm a brave warrior out to vanquish the evil of the world and spread freedom, justice, and growth/life. When I interact with others online, it is almost always done in a respectful, honest, and "true" way - I even take every oppourtunity to share with people about God/life/death when they come to me with personal problems. As a result, I generally have a very positive reputation within DAoC.

To conclude, I am concidering going back to this hobby as I've noticed myself getting bored and depressed not to have a hobby anymore. Sure reading the Qu'ran, Bible, Haddiths, and participating here on TTI are pleasurable and fun, but I can only do it for so long. I do other research online, too. I want to be a good person, to please Allah, and to leave this life with a history to be proud of that will enable me to join Allah and our family in Paradise: this is my main objective in life.

What are your thoughts on this matter, my dear brothers and sister? And hey, don't forget I'm your brother too if you have strong opinions against this, so please be merciful and helpful. I thank you kindly. =)

Ahmed
 

samiha

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Staff member
:salam2:
Just a fatwa....

Is playing computer or video games Haram since you control human and other life-like animations on the screen? Is programming these games Haram as well?

Fatwa

Praise be to Allah, the Lord of the World; and may His blessings and peace be upon our Prophet Muhammad and upon all his Family and Companions.

The ruling concerning the mass media such as television, video, and computer depends on their use. If they are used for a Halal purpose such as listening to the recitation of Qur'an, reading Ahadith, gaining the knowledge of Sharia or useful, modern science such as medicine, engineering and the like, using them is permissible, even mandatory at times.
Their use for any Haram purpose, such as looking at women's pictures, or watching pornographic films, or listening to music, songs, etc. is forbidden, since committing Haram is forbidden regardless of its means.
The above ruling also applies to games and sports. If they contain any Haram act or divert one from prayers, remembering Allah, or drives one to deviation, then they are Haram. If they are free from prohibitions, then they are permitted. Every means to Haram is Haram itself and every means to Halal is Halal.
Allah knows best

:wasalam:
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Assalamu Alaykum,

there is nothing wrong with video games as long as you dont end up wasting time and it is beneficial.

Keep in mind that the Delta Force, Spec Ops, the American Army ALL Use Computer Games as part of their military training these days. Its a tool to help them murder people in Iraq and other places.

Myself, i played a military game online around 3 years ago, called Americas Army, and i played against Real American Soldiers who were playing the game over the internet. Quite often i would be up against 5-6 players and I would beat them pretty bad in the games, lol.

I enjoyed it a lot. At same time we would debate about the various political situations and about Islam... right before i sniped them lol. I also mananged to make an online peace deal on a map called "The bridge". Normally, people just go there to shoot each other.

Its only a game, but when they knew i was a Muslim, it added another dimension.

I have absolutely no time for computer games now, although sometimes i wish i had, just when im really bored.

There is nothing wrong with enjoying yourself in a halal way.
 

Ahmed ibn Ibrahim

alhamdulilah
Game Over!

After going back and playing my computer game, I have decided that it is just not consistant with a Muslim lifestyle. I will no longer waste my time trying to virtually kill people (no matter what superficial intentions I might have had).

No practicing Muslim plays that game. It's full of ignorant disbelievers, and like the the Good Lord says: Don't sit with the disbelievers otherwise you'll become one yourself.

Plus there's all sorts of stupid stuff in that game; magic, hate, unending violence, addiction, paganism, mythology ... The people there often play drunk or stoned, and happily announce it to everyone - who in turn cheer the person. There's even "virtual worship" going on (there's a command to make your character prostrate him/herself down infront of other things/people/places) and I just can't tolerate it anymore.

I might not be a perfect Muslim, but I AM a dedicated Muslim and I AM trying hard to purify myself for this life, for death, and for the next life for the glory of Allah. How can I continue to be a hypocrite, after 15 years of Christianity? I refuse. For myself, and for my Lord. I have so much more to offer to the world and to my Muslim brothers and sisters than to waste my time idling away on a game with no consequence. Allah forgive me ...

Alhamdulilah!
 

Kayote

Junior Member
:salam2:

Good to have a this topic.

I personally was a PC gaming addict, serious addict. It is the reason I didnt go into medicine because I didnt secure the grades required & my father (May Allah give him Jannat, Insha'Allah) being a surgeon, you can imagine how disappointed he must have been.

Now Im a accountant (still studying for PQ) but I do think, video games are dangeous as they can very easily lead one astray. However, in moderation, it can be very good as it can help develop your mental strength (ofcourse not the mindless shooters) & reflexex (yes, the shooters here & as mentioned, some are used in training).

I personally hope to one day have my own video games studio which will create content from my cultural prespective...

:wasalam:
 
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