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What I mean is, that "wali" here doesn't need to be her father, brother, uncle, whoever is closest to her in kin according to the hanafi madhab.
It's his view. That doesn't really change much.
Ukhti, Let me remind you, Imaam Abu Haneefa was much much knowledgable than you or I. The scholars that still hold on to this view have studied usool and fiqh unlike you. To judge them as being as the likes of jews and Christians, you should think twice. You read one hadeeth in English and believe, an ocean of knowledge such as Imaam Abu Haneefa is following his desires. Really? Fiqh is not limited to IslamQA or the Hanbali Madhab. That's is why we have four Madhabs and each is valid to be followed. We are layman. To each his own and there is no blame on those who follow the Hanafee view. And I think I just proved it up there this khilaaf is valid as the qualified students of knowledge (Of Ummal Qura and Madina uni) who have studied with scholars and not just surfed the internet recognise the "difference of opinion" which means, each view is valid and can be acted upon.
The fact that it is a matter of fiqh with valid khilaaf in it, is proof enough that the issue is not black and white. If you feel what the OP says is more of a sound opinion, then it is for you to follow. However, those who don't, are free of blame. Because the other opinion is equally valid.
I didn't actually read any. Because I already follow the Hanbali position till I read and am conviced of the Hanafee position. The thing here is: We are not "allowed" to force our opinion down others throat since the others opinion is just as valid. AND because we are not qualified to even discussed sucha thing let alone impose it on others. Like you said, it's not black and white. It's not that what Q&A says is halal and all else is haram.
Rest is up to the two of you, this isn't a discussion for us. It is enough for us laypeople to know that there is khilaaf in the matter and there is no need to shove the opinion we believe to be correct, down others throats by invalidating what they follow.
aslam o alaikum wr wb,
what you said is true exactly
my reasons and wat i was trying to say is, i know what abu hanafi (rah) said and i agree with him, but alot of people as u might know in pak run away from home, go against their parents wishes/will (due to personal not religious reasons) etc etc . Thats why i posted this words of the hanafi scholars to clear this issue up that its not as black and white like that, you have to try your best to make your parents agree, *runing away, displeasing them etc* is not the way, and if the parents are not agreeing based on like cast system, race, non islamic reasons basically, then hanafi allow it. This is what i studied from a hanafi student, if you want please confirm it with haris hammam as well.
InshAllah, hope it make sense the bottom line is the madhab interpretation are not to be misused, if you are going to follow it do it properly.
And Allah (swt) knows best