niqab...a bigg problem??

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    this a genuine problem guys .i thought if i take the niqab itll b the end of all problems(ofcourse the ones related to the issues of attraction)other problems which u face in the society hv jus strtd ...
    ok , enough of jokes lets b serious now,
    since i hve strtd wearing the niqab guys(hooligans) stare at me i mean my eyes, n i reallly feel sooo uncomfortable...i dnt know wht to do!
    once an uncle (a hindu who was dicussing comparitive relegion wit me) told me
    "You know, you being covered like this makes us more curious to see what you look like without the vel(niqab n abaya). Since In the case of those girls not wearing hijab, at least one look at them has made us not curious anymore, because we know what they look like n what their personality is - but in case of you, we are still unsatisfied because we still don’t know what you look like n wht ur personality is without the niqab."

    n u know some ppl actually have the nerves 2 say tht the niqab with only 2 eyes popping out looks sexy

    now plz help me solve this problem of mine i am really worried atleast give some interesting ideas....Allah(swt) will surely reward u fr this
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    Assalamualaikum warahmatullah

    Firstly, i dont think it is right for u to talk to the uncle unless u have a mahram with u. Let them be jealous of u ....With them being jealous means that u have succeed , u have achieve the aim of not letting people see u...And u cannot prevent them to think what they want.

    My advice , continue wearing and try to use black niqaab....

    I think they actually want to influence u to remove your niqaab, dont do that...
    continue wearing it...And be proud of it , inshAllah..
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    uncles are mahrams also. as are fathers in law
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    Lets hope someone post what constitute a mahram
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    Assalamu Alaykum,

    Dont worry sister. They are probably telling you these stuff to put doubts in your mind.

    In my opinion let them say whatever they want to say. It might also be that there are not many women that actually do wear the niqab and so it might seem something new and strange for these people. So do not worry and know that you are wearing this Niqab not for anyone but for Allah (SWT). As brother Alkathiri said "let them be jealous of you"
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    personality is related with our face? with our look like?
    we should show our face to satisfied them?
    isnn´t there outside a lot of woman who show their face and satisfied them?
    if personality is related with look like then i have a very bad personality.

    let them feel sexy with eyes or with your shoes. lol
    if they feel like that then we have to vanish all the girls.

    lol
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    Wa alaykum salam,

    Well, as long as you know that Niqab is not obligatory, its your choice.

    If men stare at you, this is their fault, -- they are sinful not you.

    MAy Allah make things easier for all Muslim
    Ameen


    wasalam.
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    :salam2:

    but the point is they cant see anyway, who cares if theyre curious. eventually the curiosit will stop cos theres noway of knowing? one would hope anyway
    no they dont stop looking, it just progresses to men who not only look, they ring the car horns at them and shout out vulgar stuff! ive been walking with girls who are uncovered (they are non-muslims) and its the most degrading experiance even though its not u whose causing the fitna!
    thats cool! nothing wrong with that, its the guy who is the sicko whose curious in the first place! :astag: what nasty kuffar!
    NOWAY! :mad:
    :( well what uve said is shocking and i dont know if ive helped at all! but whats clear from this is the level of fitna that exists in scoiety in general and the niqab doesnt in any way increase it, they just manipulate the niqab to fit in with the fitna but in reality i think the contribution of the niqab to this fitna is compltely minimal!

    this is awful! how DARE they covert niqab into something bad cos of their OWN diseased hearts! :girl3: and then blame the sisters who wear it!

    wa-salam
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    wa :wasalam:

    If you don't feel comfortable with niqaab, then, it's not a big problem, God didn't make it fardh, cos it requires patience and strenght; as a matter of fact, today i was on my way back home, there was a woman who was bending over, a man, in his 30s, or 40s passed and shouted: Nice view!!

    How embarassing it must have been, and i just said ALHAMDOULILAH, thanks God, this will never happen to me !!!

    Be patient sister ;)
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    niqab not the problem

    :astag:
    As salaamu alaykum sister the niqab is not the problem this is from the devils an there evil one always no that you have choice to do this for Allah(swt) .An that he will help you with this .First the evilones will say take off the niqab next abayah then hijab .Pay them no mine an depended only on Allah(swt).They want you to have no shyness an shame .There life is sealed to hell .Unless they get on this deen
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    Niqab is not the problem

    As salaamu alaykum sister .This is a great thing you are doing and mayAllah (swt) make it easy for you.And always remeber that you are doing this for Allah(swt).This is only from the evil ones to get you to undress one thing at a time. First niqab ,abayah ,then hijab then you are like them an loss the protection of Allah(swt).Let them say what they will you an the other sister are to precious to uncover because of the advice of the satan an his helpers.So keep doing what you are doing an depended on Allah (swt) to help you an guide you in the right way .Allah (swt) says more or less do not obey those whom He(swt) has cause not to remeber Him(swt).May Allah(swt) make it easy for you Ameen
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    salaam alikom
    As mabsoot said scholars have different opinion on the Nigab and if you decided to wear it for sake of Allah then stay the course and dont worry abuot others it might be a test for you, Shaytan trying to whisper to you...

    Let people wonder and stare just treat them like a wall you passing by dont give attention its hard in the begining but inshallah you will get use to them as Wall :)

    wa salaam alikom
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    Just forget about it. Yeah, it's probably true for some men, or even a lot of men, but you've done all you can to cover yourself. There's nothing more you can do, so don't worry about it. Anything the men do is their fault, not yours.
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    Assalamu-alaikum

    :salam2: ,
    Dear sister dont fall into the traps of shaytan men will always tell you to get rid of this thing cuz its what they want as men. And beleive me if one goes with the desire thing then i fear what is that men would like to be left there. I hope I am not offending any one but I am just talking about pure male instincts and desires.
    So sister if Allah SWT has told us to do so then its best for us for he knows his creation better than anyone else. Better than any Uncles who do not even know that similar kind of hijab can be found in hindu religious books and is advised to Hindu women as well. Be strong and dont let any XYZ doubt you.
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    salamu alaykum,

    not all uncles r mahrem. Only the uncles (ur mother's brothers and ur father's brothers) r considered mahrem. However, uncles (husbands of ur mom's sisters or husbands of ur father's sisters) r not considered ur mahrams.

    Assalamu alaykum

    Muharram
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    Im a bit confused here..
    Maybe someone can post what can constitute your mahram...
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    It is permissible for a woman to take off her hijaab in front of her mahrams.

    A woman’s mahram is a person whom she is never permitted to marry because of their close blood relationship (such as her father, grandfather, great-grandfather, etc., and her son, grandson, great-grandson, etc., her paternal and maternal uncles, her brother, brother’s son and sister’s son), or because because of radaa’ah or breastfeeding (such as the brother and husband of the woman who breastfed her), or because they are related by marriage (such as the mother’s husband, the husband’s father, grandfather, etc., and the husband’s son, grandson, etc.). More details on this subject are given below:

    Mahrams by ties of blood

    These are the ones mentioned in Soorat al-Noor, where Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “… and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons, or their brothers or their brother’s sons, or their sister’s sons…” [al-Noor 24:31].

    The mufassireen said: the woman’s male mahrams by ties of blood, as stated clearly in this aayah or inferred by it are as follows:

    1- the woman’s forefathers, no matter how far back the line of ascent goes through her father and her mother, such as her father’s forefathers and her mother’s forefathers. As for her husband’s forefathers, they are her mahrams by marriage, as we shall see below.

    2- her sons, which includes her children’s children, no matter how the line of descent goes and whether they are descended from males or females, such as her sons’ sons and her daughters’ sons. As for her “husband’s sons” mentioned in the aayah, these are the husband’s sons from other wives, and these are her mahrams by marriage, not by blood, as we shall see below.

    3- her brothers, whether they are her brothers through both the mother and father, or through the father only or the mother only.

    4- the children of her siblings, whether they are descended through the males or females, such as the sons of her sister’s daughters.

    5- paternal uncles and maternal uncles. They are mahrams by blood even though they are not mentioned in the aayah, because they are like parents and are regarded by people as having the same status as parents, and a paternal uncle may be called a father. Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

    “Or were you witnesses when death approached Ya‘qoob (Jacob)? When he said unto his sons, “What will you worship after me?” They said, “We shall worship your Ilaah (God — Allaah) the Ilaah (God) of your fathers, Ibraaheem (Abraham), Ismaa’eel (Ishmael), Ishaaq (Isaac)…” [al-Baqarah 2:133].

    Ismaa’eel was the paternal uncle of the sons of Ya’qoob.

    (Tafseer al-Raazi, 23/206; Tafseer al-Qurtubi, 12/232, 233; Tafseer al-Aaloosi, 18/143; Fath al-Bayaan fi Maqaasid al-Qur’aan by Siddeeq Hasan Khaan, 6/352)

    Mahrams by radaa’ah (breastfeeding)

    A woman may have mahrams through radaa’ah. It says in Tafseer al-Aloosi:

    “The relationship of mahram which permits a woman to show her adornments may be through radaa’ah as well as through blood ties, so it is permissible for a woman to show her adornments to those who are her fathers or sons through radaa’ah.” (Tafseer al-Aaloosi. 18/143) The relationship of mahram by radaa’ah is like the relationship of mahram by blood – it means that marriage is forever forbidden by virtue of that relationship of mahram. This was the view stated by Imaam al-Jassaas when he commented on this aayah. He said (may Allaah have mercy on him): “When Allaah mentioned the fathers and that their marriage to these women is forbidden forever, this indicates that the same prohibition applies in other relationships of mahram, such as the mother of the woman and those who are mahrams by radaa’ah, etc.” (Ahkaam al-Qur’aan by al-Jassaas, 3/317).

    The same things are made haraam by radaa’ah as by ties of blood.

    It also says in the Sunnah: “The same things are made haraam by radaa’ah as by ties of blood.” This means that the people who are mahram to a woman because of blood ties are also mahram because of radaa’ah. It was reported in Saheeh Muslim that ‘Aa’ishah Umm al-Mu’mineen (may Allaah be pleased with her) said that Aflah the brother of Abu Qu’ays came and asked permission to see her. He was her uncle through radaa’ah. This was after hijaab had been revealed, so she refused to give him permission. When the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) came, she told him about what she had done and he told her to give him permission. (Saheeh al-Bukhaari bi Sharh al-‘Asqallaani, 9/150). This hadeeth was also narrated by Imaam Muslim, where the wording is: from ‘Urwah from ‘Aa’ishah, who told him that her uncle by radaa’ah, who was called Aflah, asked permission to see her and she did not let him. She told the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and he said to her, “Do not observe hijaab in front of him, because the same relationships of mahram are created by radaa’ah as by blood ties.” (Saheeh Muslim bi Sharh al-Nawawi, 10/22)

    A woman’s mahrams through radaa’ah are the same as her mahrams through blood ties

    In accordance with the Qur’aan and Sunnah, the fuqahaa’ have stated that a woman’s mahrams through radaa’ah are the same as her mahrams through blood ties. It is permissible for her to display her adornments before her mahrams by radaa’ah just as it is permissible for her to display her adornments before her mahrams by blood ties. It is permissible for her mahrams by radaa’ah to see whatever of her body it is permissible for her mahrams by blood ties to see.

    Mahrams by marriage

    A woman’s mahrams by marriage are those whom it is forever forbidden to marry, such as the father’s wife, the son’s wife or the wife’s mother. (Sharh al-Muntahaa, 3/7).

    The mahram by marriage of the father’s wife is his son from another wife, for the wife of the son it is his father, and for the mother of the wife it is the husband. Allaah says in Soorat al-Noor (interpretation of the meaning):

    “… and not to reveal their adornment except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband’s fathers, or their sons, or their husband’s sons…” [al-Noor 24:31].

    Their husband’s fathers and their husband’s sons are mahrams of the woman by marriage. Allaah mentioned them along with their (the women’s own) fathers and sons, and made them all the same in the sense that women may display their adornments in front of them. (Al-Mughni, 6/555)

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    just let them say whatever they want... i'm wearing niqab too.. i dont care what people wanna say bout me,, i dont care if guys staring at me :astag: .. i've tried my best to keep my awrah and its not my fault for their actions.. may Allah save me from their evil eyes..:tti_sister:
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    *****Proud to be a Muslimah*****

    Asaalmealykum

    I just wanted to say dat it doesnt matter what people think sister...as long as Allah is happy with what your doing....as muslims we have to remember dat we are the servants of Allah and dat we are in this world to make Him happy not the society.......

    May Allah make our emaan stronger.....inshAllah

    PS... im thinking of wearing the niqaaab myself inshAllah...... so il be joining you soon :lol:

    Wasalaams

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