** Not allowed to fold up trousers during salah**

[OsMaN_93]

:salam2:

this is very interesting ,i only recently heard about it and i was like

Hadiths regarding turning up trousers/pants

Ibn Abbas (radiAllahu anhu) narrates that the Messenger of Allah
(sallAllahu alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam) said, "I was commanded to prostrate
myself on the seven [bones] and forbidden to fold back hair and
clothing. [The seven bones are] forehead, nose, hands, knees and feet." (Sahih
Muslim: Book 4, Number 995)

Ibn Abbas (radiAllahu anhu) narrates that the Messenger of Allah
(sallAllahu alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam) was ordered [by Allah, Subhanahu wa
Ta'Ala] to prostrate on seven parts and not to tuck up the clothes or
hair [while praying]. Those parts are: the forehead [along with the tip
of nose], both hands, both knees, and [toes of] both feet. (Sahih
al-Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 12, Number 773)

In light of these two Ahadith the Ulama have stated that turning up
your trousers to pray salaah is makrooh-e-tahreemi and would therefore
make your salaah wajib to repeat.

Having your trousers below the ankles on purpose due to pride or
arrogance is haraam. If your trousers are below the ankles for any other
reason then it is makrooh-e-tanzeehi and this would not make it wajib to
repeat your salaah but you would lose reward.

Hazrat Abdullah ibn Umar (radiAllahu anhu) narrates that the Beloved
Prophet (sallAllahu alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam) said, "He who lets his
clothes fall or lets them drag on the ground and he does this out of
arrogance Allah (Subhanahu wa Ta'Ala) will not look at him with Mercy on
the Day of Judgement. Hearing this Hazrat Abu Bakr as-Siddiq (radiAllahu
anhu) asked the Beloved Prophet (sallAllahu alaihi wa aalihi wa
sallam), "O Messenger of Allah, what if I forget and unintentionally my
Tahband (my lower garment) falls or touches the ground?" The Beloved Prophet
(sallAllahu alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam) replied "O my friend Abu Bakr
you are not amongst the Khuyala" (meaning you do not do this out of
arrogance). (Sahih Bukhari)


This above Hadith shows all Muslims that it is forbidden to drag your
clothing or let it fall lower then your ankle when you are doing it
intentionally and when you do it with arrogance and pride. If it is done
unintentionally and without arrogance the Beloved Prophet (sallAllahu
alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam) permits it.


Hazrat Abu Bakr as-Siddiq (radiAllahu anhu) said that, "We were sitting
with the Beloved Prophet (sallAllahu alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam) and
there was a solar eclipse. The Beloved Prophet (sallAllahu alaihi wa
aalihi wa sallam) quickly got up, in the state that, when he was rushing
his tahband (his lower garment) was touching the ground until he entered
the Masjid with the people. And in that same state the Beloved Prophet
(sallAllahu alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam) offered his Salaat ul-Qusoof
(solar salaah) (Sahih Bukhari)

In the above Hadith the Beloved Prophet (sallAllahu alaihi wa aalihi wa
sallam) is offering salaah whilst his blessed tahband is touching the
ground, which definitely means his blessed tahband was lower than his
ankles. There are Islamic rules to be learnt from all the Ahadith quoted
in this answer. In some Ahadith, Muslims have been told strictly to
ensure that the tahband (lower garment) is above the ankles whilst in
other Ahadith the Beloved Prophet (sallAllahu alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam)
has permitted the tahband to stay lower then the ankles as long as it
is not done with takkabur (pride) and for arrogance, due to the fact
when Hazrat Abu Bakr as-Siddiq (radiAllahu anhu) asked the Beloved Prophet
(sallAllahu alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam), he (sallAllahu alaihi wa
aalihi wa sallam) said it is permissable for you because you do not do it
for arrogance.

Major Points:

1. It is always best to follow the way of the Beloved Prophet
(sallAllahu alaihi wa aalihi wa sallam) and to keep you clothing above your
ankles due to the fact this is Afzal and is Awla.

2. If somebody lets his clothing fall below the ankle and does this out
of takkabur then the Ulama say this is makrooh-e-tahreemi (i.e. it is
close to haraam.) And if somebody does this out takkabur and offers
salaah in this state, then that Salaah is Wajib ul-Iradah, it has to be
repeated because the salaah is not accepted due to the takkabur.


3. If somebody's clothing sometimes falls below the ankle but he
doesn't do this out of takkabur then this is makrooh-e-tanzeehi, it is
disliked but it is not haraam or makrooh-e-tahreemi.


4. Folding your clothing from the bottom of the trousers or your lower
garment, is known as kaf-e-sawb (the folding of garments) and in the
blessed Ahadith we have been told not to do this, it is not permissible,
it is Mam'noo. Therfore the brothers who perform the kaf-e-sawb only
for salaah they are doing wrong.



Verily, Allah Subhan Wa Ta'Ala and HIS Messenger know the best !
im not sure of the source so
what do you think???

 

[nyerekareem]

:salam2:

i try to keep my pants above the ankles, but the problem for me is that my waist size generally has long length due to the fact that i am overweight. i haven't had the funds to get my clothing tailored to the right length. so what i've been doing is, slightly tucking my pants in my socks, so that my pants don't drag. i tried hemming pants on my own and it was a disaster. i just found out about this product called hemming tape. that allows me to fold up the pants to proper length and keeps a hem without ever having the need to sew. meant for bad sew people like myself.

one thing too, that i noticed about people that wore their pants in accordance to the sunnah, is that it has greatly helped me identify muslim men that i don't know personally. it's almost like a uniform. people laugh at us saying that we wear high water pants. i am glad about that because our appearance helps differentiate us from among the kuffar. that's why we should be proud of our beards, hijabs, niqaabs, and other islamic dress.

 

[Shahzad]

but i have heard in hadith is the pants below ankels will take u to hell. U need to ask it from any mufti rather than judging on ur own

 

[AKHI]

but i have heard in hadith is the pants below ankels will take u to hell. U need to ask it from any mufti rather than judging on ur own

Interesting info! I agree with Shahzad. Better check with local Mufti. I usually fold my pant during solat at work as my coverall is long. I saw many ppl doing it at masjid all over.

I saw once an middle eastern man went in the masjid in my counrty wearing a three quarters pants. How do you explain that? No one stop him from entering.
Btw, we are sunna's here in Singapore.

 

[A Kashmiri]

Question: Does wearing one's clothes below the ankles during prayer render one's prayer invalid?

Answered by Sheikh Salman al-Oadah

Wearing clothing below the ankles is sinful in and of itself. However, it does not render the prayers of the one who does so invalid.

There is a hadîth that reports the Prophet (peace be upon him) as saying: “Indeed, Allah does not accept the prayer of a man who hangs his garments.”

This hadîth, though al-Nawawî declares it authentic in al-Majmû` (4/456) and in Riyâd al-Sâlihîn, is weak, since its chain of transmission contains Abû Ja`far who is unknown.

Moreover, its text is rejected because it goes against the broad principles of Islamic Law.

And Allah knows best.



Hope this clears some part of this question......


Masallama

 

[AKHI]

Question: Does wearing one's clothes below the ankles during prayer render one's prayer invalid?

Answered by Sheikh Salman al-Oadah

Wearing clothing below the ankles is sinful in and of itself. However, it does not render the prayers of the one who does so invalid.

There is a hadîth that reports the Prophet (peace be upon him) as saying: “Indeed, Allah does not accept the prayer of a man who hangs his garments.”

This hadîth, though al-Nawawî declares it authentic in al-Majmû` (4/456) and in Riyâd al-Sâlihîn, is weak, since its chain of transmission contains Abû Ja`far who is unknown.

Moreover, its text is rejected because it goes against the broad principles of Islamic Law.

And Allah knows best.



Hope this clears some part of this question......


Masallama

So brother what you are saying & the hadith quote is that wearing a pants below the ankle is not allowed in prayer. Question is to fold long pant above the ankle is ok or not?

Wasalamualaikum

 

[ditta]

Asalaamu'Alykum,

Well i have a book called, "The issue of Isbaal According to the Qur'aan & Sunnah" by Dr Saleh As-Saleh (May Allah grant him Jannah. Ameen.)

I will take some bits out:

What is Isbaal?

Isbaal is to wear garments that extend below the ankles.

Is it Forbidden?

Yes, because the Prophet said:

"The part of the izaar (garment) which hangs below the ankles is in the fire" (Sahih Al-Bukhari Volume 7 Hadeeth # 678)

However some hold the opinion that if you wear your garments below the ankle it is OK as long as it is not done with pride, conceit or arrogance. Is this argument true?

No, Because:

1) The threat of being punished by the hell fire because of wearing garments that exceeds the ankles is true and clear. (The punishable part is that which violates the command of the Prophet i.e. below the ankles. Al-Haafidh Ibn Hajr is of the opinion that the obvious literal meaning of the hadeeth holds ture, i.e. the clothers together with the part below the ankles will be in Hell as it is the case in the saying of AllahL

" Certainly! You (disbelievers) and what that which you are worshipping now besides Allah, are (but) fuel for Hell. (Qur'an 21:98)

2) Several texts indicate that the Prophet was commanding the people to pull up their garments. The majority of the Muslim Scholars (Al-Jumhoor) agree that when the text is in the imperative form, it is intended for Tahreem (forbidding something), unless there is another authentic: evidence that indicates otherwise.

In one incident the Prophet sighted someone dragging his lower garment. He rushed to him and said:

"Pull up your Izaar and fear Allah". The man said: "I am an Ahnaf (a person afflicted with a distortion of the foot with each the other one along the big toe) person with trembling knees."

He (The Prophet ) said:

"Tug up your Izaar!Certainly, all of Allah's creation is good". Since then the man was no(t) seen except with his izaar touching the middle of his shins." (Reported by Ahmad and others, and it satisfies the conditions and narration's set by Al-Bukhari and Muslim.

It is clear that the Prophet did not question the man about whether he was doing it out of pride or arrogance. In fact it's clear that from the condition of the man that he did not think about arrogance! Nevertheless the Prophet did not accept his Isbaal and considered it to be incompatible with At-Taqwa (the fear of Allah).

3) The generalised prohibition of Isbaal is clear in the saying of the Prophet . On one occasion he said to Sufyan bin Sahl:

"O Sufyan bin Sahl! Do not lower your garment below your ankles because Allah does not love the Musbileen (those who lower their garments below their ankles). (Sahih ibn Majah, by Shaykh Naasir-ud-deen Al-Albani #2876)

Jaabir bin Saleem said that the Prophet told him:

".. And beware of the Isbaal of the Izaar because it is from Al-Makheelah (conceit, arrogance, etc.) and Allah does not live it. (Silsilat Al-Ahadeeth As-Sahih, the series on the collection of authentic hadeeth, by Shaykh Al-Albani, hadeeth # 770.

One can notice that the underlined text is imperative form indicating the forbidding of Isbaal whether it is done out of Makheelah (conceit, arrogance, etc.) or not. Al-Haafidh Ibn Hajr, in his commentary about some of these Ahadeeth mentioned above, said, "The Isbaal mentioned in these Ahaadeth is a grave sin if it is done out of Makheelah (conceit, arrogance, etc.), otherwise the apparent meaning of the Ahaadeth indicates that it is forbidden.

4) The manifestation of the Ayah:

"...And whatsoever the Messenger gives you take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain from it." (Qur'an 59:7)

It is known that the Thobe (long garment) of the most honourable of mankind Muhammad "was up to the middle of his shins". (Reported by Ahmad, At-Tirmidhee in Ash-Shamaa'il Al-Muhammdiyyah and by others. The hadeeth is authentic as reported by Waleed An-Nasr in his book Al-Isbaal Liqhayr Al-Khuyalaa', p. 15 second edition, 1411/1990 (publishers name is not mentioned. This is confirmed in the hadeeth in which Uthman (radiyAllaahu-anhu) reported "the lower garment of the Prophet extended to the middle of his shins". (Reported by At-Tirmidhee in Ash-Shamaa'il Al-Muhammadiyyah and Al-Albani authenticated it # 98.)

Who else is more humble than him ? He knew that Isbaal necessitates Al-Makheelah (conceit, arrogance, etc.) even if the Musbil does not intend it. This is supported by the Hadeeth of Jaabir bin Saleem in which the Prophet made it clear that Isbaal is a manifestation of arrogance:

He commanded Jaabir bin Saleem saying:

"And tug up your Izaar up to the middle of your shinks, and if you dislike it, then up the ankles (i.e. up to the point above the ankles) and beware of Isbaal because it is arrogance." (Silsilat Al-Ahadeeth As-Saheehah, hadeeth # 1109 and 1352.

Should one not therefore, abide by the command of Allah in the above ayah?

5. Isbaal by men is an imitation of women.

The Prophet forbade that ment dress like women and vice versa. He said:

"Allah cursed the man dressed like a woman and the coman dressed like a man (Sahih Abee Dawood hadeeth #3454, Ibn Majah #1903, Sahih Al-Jaami As-Sagheer, hadeeth #5095, and others.

In fact Ibn Umar (radiyAllaahu-anhu) said that: "The Prophet said, 'the one who trails his Thobe out of Conceit, Allah (subhaanah-wa-ta-aala) will not look at him on the Day of Judgement."

Umm Salamah (radiyAllaahu-anh) said: "What should the women, O Messenger of Allah do with the lower ends of their dresses? He said: "they may let them hang down a span". She said: "Still their feet will be uncovered." He said: Then let then hang the ends down a forarm's length, not exceeding it." (An authentic narration reported by Abu Dawood (#3467 in Sahih Abee Dawood), An-Nasaa'ee (# 5336) and At-Tirmidhee (Saheeh At-Tirmidhee, # 1415) and Ibn Majah # 3580 & 3581.

Lowering the garments below the ankle is the code dress of women. Shaykh-ul-Islaam ib Taymeeyah said:

"... the imitation (of others) in the outward appearances produces proportional assumption of the deeds and manners. That is why we are ordered to oppose the kuffar... and that is also why men and women are prohibited from imitating each other in accordance with the Ahadeeth:

"Whoever takes the similitude of certain people becomes one of them". (Authentic hadeeth collected by Abu Dawood, Ahmad and other others. See As-Silsilah As-Saheehah V1,676.)

The man who imitates women acquires from their manners according to the extent of his imitation, such that by it he may end up in complete effeminacy.

The women who imitates men assumes part of their manners until she attains levels of Tabarruj (displaying beautification as a show to strangers. Displaying beautification to the husband is not Tabarruj.), Burooz (Showing off), and Mushaarakah (joining men in walks of like)) with men driving some of them to show their bodies as men do, demanding superiority over men, and doing whatsoever contradicts the bashfulness of women. (Shaykh-ul-Islaam Ibn Tameeyag in AlFataawa (Arabic) V.22 p.254)

When Umar bin Khattab (radiyAllaahu-anhu) saw a man dragging his Izaar, he called upon him and said: "Are you having your menses?" The man replied: "O Ammer Al-Mumineen! (Commander of the faithful) Does a man have menses?" Umar said, "What made you drag you izaar over you feet?" He then ordered a blade, folded (the lower ends of) the mans Izaar and cut what trailed below the ankles. (This incident was narrated by Kharshah ibn Al-Hurr. The report is found in Waleed An-Nasr's book Al-Isbaal Liqayer Al-Khuyalaa', p.18, where he attributed it to At-Tabaree. It is reported in a summarised version of Abee Shaibah in his Musannah (V8, p393) with a Sahih isnaad, as An-Nasr said.)

Today we see that men are trailin their Izaar (thobe, trousers, pants etc) like women, while women wear clothers whose lower ends are well above the ankles! Some in fact above the knees! May Allah guide our men and women to abide by the commands of Allah and His Messenger

 

[ditta]

Asalaamy'Alykum,

I will post part, more in realation to Salah:

Isbaal and Prayers

You may have noticed some people tugging up their lower garments (especially pants) when they are about to start praying. They refer to a hadeeth reported in Abu Dawood in which is it said "Allah does not accept the prayers of a man trailing his lower garment". However the hadeeth is weak. Shaykh Naasir-ud-Deen Al-Albani said: "Its isnad is weak, because of Abu Ja'far, an unknown as Ibnul Qattan said, So, whoever authenticated its Isnaad is mistaken."

Having said the above, one should be aware that intendting to pray in a state of Isbaal out of conceit, subjects the Musbil to a grave punishment from Allah. Abdullah bin Mas-oud said:

"I heard Allah's Messenger saying, 'Anyone who conceitedly trails his Izaar during prayers, Allah has nothing to with pardoning him and protecting him (from Hell or from bad deeds.)" (Reported by Abu Dawood Volume 1, Book of Salaat, hadeeth #637. The narration is in At-Tabarani in Al-Mu'jum Al-Kabeer, V.9 p. 315. The checked said: it is authentic.)

Another came as Mawqoof (i.e. issued by Abdullah bin Mas'oud). It reads: "The Musbil during prayer, Allah has nothing to do with pardoning him and protecting him (from Hell or from bad deeds.) (Abu Dawood and At-Tayaalisee, V1, p. 352, Al-Baihaqee, V2 p432 (Book of Zuhd), Al-Haythamee in Mujma' Az-Azwaa'id, V5, p. 124 (He said: "At-Tabarani reported it and its narrators are trustworthy."), and Al-Albani authenticated it in Sahih Al-Jaami', hadeeth #5888. Al-Haafidh Ibn Hajar said: "It was reported by At-Tabarani with a good Isnaad from Abdullah Ibn Mas'oud. An issue like this could not just be an opinion (i.e. of Abdullah Ibn Mas'oud)..."-Fathul Baaree, V10 p.257.

The Musbil, therefore should be aware that Isbaal is a great offence during prayers or at another other time. It should be also noted that the Prophet ordered that we should not make Kaft of our clothes or hair during prayers. Kaft is to draw, cluster, pile up, tuck up, or band clothes together before or during prayers to prevent their spreading. (see Ibn Al-Atheer in An-Nihaayah fee Ghareeb Al-Hadeeth, V4, P. 184.)

This would include, for example, to bring together and assemble the sides of one's thobe between the legs when one is about to enter the prayers or during Ruk'oo or Sujood, to pile up the ends of the head cover on the head or the shoulders, to tuck up the lower ends of the pants, (This is not to be confused with tucking up then cutting off the trailing ends of the lower garments halfway to the middle of the shins or to an extent that it keeps the lower ends of the Thob, pants, trousers, etc. above the ankles, even if the lower ends if within the recommended limits, it should not be tucked up at its end because that constitutes Kaft.) or the ends of the sleeves, etc. in the hadeeth narrated by Abdullah bin Abbas (radiyAllaahu-anhu), the Prophet said:

"I have been ordered (and this this Ummah) to prostrate on seven bones: the forehead (alon with the tip of the nose and he pointed towards his nose), both hands, both knees, and toes of both feet, and not to tuck up the clothes and the hair". (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 1, hadeeth # 774)

The Dress of Men

The Dress of Men is governed by the following legislation's:

1) It is forbidden if it extends below the ankles. The Musbil is under the threat of punishment in Hell.

2) Isbaal itself is Makheelah (conceit, arrogance, etc.)

3) If the Musbil intends conceit and arrogance, Allah will not look at him on the day of Judgement.

4) Isbaal is not confined to the lower garments. It covers the cloak, robe, pants, trousers, turban, sleeves, etc.

5) The person who does not intend Isbaal and his lower garments hangs low out of his control, is not a Musbil.

6) The recommended length of the lower garment is halway to the middle of the shinks and permissible up to the ankles.

7) It must not resemble the kuffar.

8) It must not be for fame.

9) It must not resemble that of women.

10) It must not be loose enough that the private parts are not described.

11) It must not contain forbidden pictures (human and animal life), or material, the essence of which is a disagreement with Islaamic Principles, including the imitation of the Kuffar.

12) It is forbidden to wear pure silk.

13) Wearing golden rings, bracelets, necklaces, etc. is forbidden.

Note: You may have heard a great deal of arguments about the subject of Isbaal at your mosque. I hope that Allah, Most High, has given me the ability to clarify this matter and that he guides you and I to hold to the sunnah to stay away from our desires.

 

[Abdul Hasib]

Mashallah thanks for telling me this brother, the next time I go to the Jamaat I'm going to go to the Masjid Committee and tell them about this.

 

[Abdul Hasib]

I'm starting to feel bad know. Before my pants were always above my knees, and whenever I got a growth spurt it just made it look worse. The reason why they go above my knees is because my mom cuts them so they don't drag, but other times she leaves them to at least touch or go a little bit below my ankle just incase I grow too much.

But recently I've starting dragging my pants because I never wanted people to make fun of how I look, with the "high waters" as they call it, and cause they try to make fun of my socks (< Now what the hell is so funny about that?), and then they laugh at me if I wer those "unknown brands" that aren't Jordans or anything else.

But in reality, I never cared about if people made fun of me. But I just don't feel right when people asre laughing at me "Dang what the hell are those?" and some people are so blind they think I'm wearing leather socks (I once did that last year and because of my high pants, people saw them, and some even pulled my leg sleeve up just to make sure or not). but then I stopped after I felt my foot feeling so crammed up, I guess they feel better on bare feet or sandals.

So have I done this out of arrogance? I'm not a Munafiq? Should I be ashamed that I was just feeling wierd about being the eccentric (meaning the differant) one in the eigth grade? I didn't do it out of arrogance, it's maybe that I just need to feel stronger in my Eman for these kinds of stuff.

I mean I AM a good Mumin when it coems to fighting against Fitnah. Once ther I was afterschool, and after watching this Haraam movie (it was that the Haraam stuff just came out without me knowing it) and I felt like I was gonna explode because I was feling nauseas (sick) and so I said, La Illaha Ill-Allah Muahmmadur Rasoolullah, and then it went away.

So whenever I feel liek I'm gonna get retarted from having Fitnah whose trying to jail me me into the evilness, I ask for Allah's help. I once had a bad feeling after this movie that I saw (which was Transformers Movie 2007 20th Anniversary), and then I said, Oh Allah, I ask for you to help me, and then I felt a pinging in my stomach. Mashallah the bad feeling went away, and then I was laughing, which is usual when a person who loves Alllah, and then whenever theyhave a problem they might ask Allah to help them, and it works. EAsy as that. That's some advice for brothers (and maybe sisters) should use to help them stop being invloved in Fitnah.

I'm going to make a thread converning that too later on Inshallah.

Assalamu Alykum. P.S. Brother Ditta I finally get to see after all this time! I haven't heard about you latley, and for a long time. Gosh brother I miss you and my other bros and sistas on TTI, the ones who I always talked to. I wish brother Virtualeye would come some time and talk. MAy Allah help us all, Ameen.

 

[ditta]

Asalaamu'Alykum Brother Abdul,

Its great to see you too brother. First, just to point out i haven't exactly finished typing out the key parts needed.

I was just like you brother, i was afraid on the bus that others could see my socks they would say "What a weirdo or why are his trousers so short". But you get used to it and you tend not to notice it. I tend to wear black socks only, so it blends in with the trousers so nobody really notices.

In school it can be tough, school kids can be so mean and its difficult being in that situation although i recommend you keep your lower garment above the ankles as the Shaykh mentioned in his book with clear evidence. Thus you will be following the Sunnah of our Beloved Prophet , you can't get better than that. Your young too, which means you implement more of the Sunnah now you will flourish in the future. May Allah make it easy for you and bestow success upon on you in this life and the hereafter. Ameen.

Your post seems like you wanted to get some things off your chest. Brother, my additonal advice that i can think of is:

Perform Wudhu
Perform 2 Rakah's of Repentance
Make Du'a to Allah - to make you stronger, confident, patient, staying upon the Qur'an and Sunnah.

Just stay strong, perserve and in the end you will succeed.

Alhamdulilah

By the way i will never forget Insh'Allah, the post you made and a sister in one of my first thread's asking a question about the Night Prayer. I had no clue what it was - but that opened up the way for me to learn more. May Allah bless you and the sister and our fellow Brothers & Sisters. Ameen.

Walaykum Salam

 

[Abdul Hasib]

Ah brother you bring back memories of those times. Sigh, for the ones who try to get to Alalh's SUnnah, Allah shall put obstacles infront of them, to test them. And if they make a mistake and fail, Allah will let them continue on if they relize the wrong they do and Allah shall also foirgive him if he repents, for Allah loves his Abd.

The best of Muslimsis doing waht's right while everyone (peers) around you is doing wrong. And Allah's Abd is that who even if he committed a sin, he repents to Allah and trys hard to absatin from doing that. Verliy Allah is mericful, and verlily he is strict in punishment to those of arrogance and pride.

Brother I know you udnerstand how I feel. Gosh I haven't talked to someone overher who even though I know she the sister is her, I don't know if I should go to her because I'm afraid she'll feel angry at me or she doesn't think I'm the good Abd anymore.

And if your out there (the sister I'm talking about) sister, please forgive me if I've upset you with what I've said about things, (And no everyone, I didn't say anythin about her, but it's about ME.)

BRother I wish all of the older TTIers like brother DNA, Brother Shaheed, Brother Abdul Raheem, Sister Smaiha, Sister Isra, sister Aquiros, sister Oem Sufiane, and everyone else of the older TTiers, I wish all of you were here with me. I remember how your words always made me feel better, after going through life, I feel like HERE; TTI is, and is my REAL family, who love me and are alawys there for me. Who have my back, who love me like what a big brother or sister should do, who encourage me to do the good.

May we All reunite in Janaatul Firdaws, Ameen. Assalamu Alykum.

 

[ditta]

Asalaamu'Alykum,

Come on Brother! You know like that Roar of a Lion. Maybe not a good example, but you have your brothers and sisters no doubt about that, but don't forget Allah, we all turn to Him the Almighty for assistance in order to succeed. That feeling of revitilisation is what you need. Just to mention, at no time did i doubt that you didn't turn to Allah rather it was just a humble reminder.

I know how school is like, i didn't really know much of about Islam then and it was absolutely awful. In some ways i won't know how its like for a practising Muslim in school. May Allah make it easy for all of us. I don't really want to give examples but perserve and you will succeed.

Insh'Allah most of the Brothers and Sisters you mentioned are active although everyone is cherished and loved by us all.

Ameen to your Du'a.

Alhamdulilah

Walaykum Salam

Ah brother you bring back memories of those times. Sigh, for the ones who try to get to Alalh's SUnnah, Allah shall put obstacles infront of them, to test them. And if they make a mistake and fail, Allah will let them continue on if they relize the wrong they do and Allah shall also foirgive him if he repents, for Allah loves his Abd.

The best of Muslimsis doing waht's right while everyone (peers) around you is doing wrong. And Allah's Abd is that who even if he committed a sin, he repents to Allah and trys hard to absatin from doing that. Verliy Allah is mericful, and verlily he is strict in punishment to those of arrogance and pride.

Brother I know you udnerstand how I feel. Gosh I haven't talked to someone overher who even though I know she the sister is her, I don't know if I should go to her because I'm afraid she'll feel angry at me or she doesn't think I'm the good Abd anymore.

And if your out there (the sister I'm talking about) sister, please forgive me if I've upset you with what I've said about things, (And no everyone, I didn't say anythin about her, but it's about ME.)

BRother I wish all of the older TTIers like brother DNA, Brother Shaheed, Brother Abdul Raheem, Sister Smaiha, Sister Isra, sister Aquiros, sister Oem Sufiane, and everyone else of the older TTiers, I wish all of you were here with me. I remember how your words always made me feel better, after going through life, I feel like HERE; TTI is, and is my REAL family, who love me and are alawys there for me. Who have my back, who love me like what a big brother or sister should do, who encourage me to do the good.

May we All reunite in Janaatul Firdaws, Ameen. Assalamu Alykum.

 

[salahdin]

بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ

Asalma aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatu bro osman may ALLAH the Knower of the Invisible and the Visible REWARD you every post you send bro shukran once more bro.

 

[Mumin01]

I dont understand, i usually wear jeans and they cover my ankles, but i dont do it out of pride or arrogance, i am not trying to imitate the kuffar as well

Why is there one hadith stating the Prophet PBUH that as long as its not out of arrogance its ok, and another stating that its completely forbidden?


I need input

salaam

 

[ditta]

Asalaamu'Alykum,

Taken from the book again and i think if you read some of the previous posts it is covered:

What clothers are covered under the Laws of Isbaal?

When it comes to the issue of Isbaal for men, what matters is the length and not the kind of dress. Abdullah Ibn Umar reported that:

"Isbaal is the lower garment, Al-Qameess (the shirt that covers the body halfway to the middle of the legs. Included in this category is the Moroccan **(hooded cloak); **(Jallaabiyah) (a loose shirt like garment, the common dress of males in Eqypt); ** Al-Abaa'ah (a cloak-like, woollen wrap, occasionally stripeed), and the like, Fathul Baaree V10 p260.) and Turban (Insh'allah will describe this further), If anyone trails any of them conceitedly, Allah will not look at him on the day of Resurrection.

Ibn Hazm said describing the Musbil: "Isbaal generally covers trousers, lower garments, shirt and everything that people wear."

Insh'Allah i will complete the remaining paragraph, but please read the previous posts as that explains it pretty well. May Allah bless the Shaykh Saleh As-Saleh. Ameen.

Sorry if there is any spelling mistakes.

Walaykum Salam

I dont understand, i usually wear jeans and they cover my ankles, but i dont do it out of pride or arrogance, i am not trying to imitate the kuffar as well

Why is there one hadith stating the Prophet PBUH that as long as its not out of arrogance its ok, and another stating that its completely forbidden?


I need input

salaam

 

[summertime]

:salam2:

i know everyone always goes on about how women face difficulty when wearinh hijab in the west and how ppl stare etc....ive never really thought about the brothers who wear their trousers above their ankles....you guys must have a really tough time...just wanna say mashAllah we're pround of u to all the brothers who are brave enoughto follow this sunnah and who are not bothered about the stares and comments they get from people...#