Query for "Knowledgable" Ex-Christians!

[Globalpeace]

Asslamo Allaikum,

I was reading Shaykh Abdullah Bin Umar Bin Sulaiman Al-Dameeji ‘s MSc thesis entitled in Arabic “الامامۃ العظمۃ” (loosely in English “The establishment of Islamic Caliphate: A Basic Obligation”) for Ummul-Qura university (Makkah) and the following question came to my mind:

What is the CORRECT understanding and interpretation of the following verses of the Lords prayer according to Christian Theology and its contextualisation in the present climate and circumstances (i.e. anticipation of Messiah, Palestine/Israel issue etc.)?

Thy Kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven

 

[Abdul Hasib]

For one thing, the Christians claim that they worship only god, which is a lie. They either worship Esa (A) :astag: as being god, or they beleive Esa (A) was a Christ :astag:.

Wasalam.

 

[Aapa]

Salaam,

You ask a question that would be debated between the sects in Christanity today. I am sure the Catholic response would be very different from the formal Protestant responses and who knows what the Pentecostal/ Evangelicals would say.

I read more and more of the Evangelical movement and the utter support for Israel. The Jerry Falwells and Pat Robertsons televise the need for Christians to support the rightful people of the Holy Lands. They are big supporters of the Republican party and donate millions.

What does this have to do with the Lord's Prayer. The concept that man is a sinner and sins unless he is saved by the grace of God. If you are baptized you are saved. The next line of the prayer is interesting.. Give us this day our daily bread...in essence man is not responsible for his earing his food..it thus becomes the responsibility of God to provide daily...there is no accountabilility for mans actions.

The text that is most often used to justify the evangelical message of hegemony and support for Israel is found in the New Testament. It is the passage of Matthew. This is the groundwork for the colonial movement and the rush of hegemony. To recreate heaven on Earth it is the duty to spread the word of Christanity. St. Paul was responsible for taking Christanity from the Holy Lands and moving it westward. He went to great pains to systemize and formalize Christanity. Most of what is taught is Pauline Doctrine.

Thy kingdom come...the new world order...thy will be done..oppress Muslims..on Earth...we are saved thus by reason we are not accountable for our actions because we are saved..as it is in heaven...we will recreate heaven on earth becasue we are the saved ones who will support the chosen ones.

 

[AleahKoto]

And it means.....

As Salamu Alaykum,
Having been a Christian previously for 40+ years, I now understand this as something different, notwithstanding even the Christians don't understand the ramifications of the whole prayer. When this was stated, the disciples asked Jesus "teach us how to pray." Here is my understanding of the prayer, and by the way was my understanding even when a Christian.

Our Father who art in heaven-meaning one God in heaven where he actually is (evangels teach he is in you)(it also does not say, pray to Jesus)
Hallowed be thy Name-referencing to make all that is associated with God as reverant and holy as HE deserves all-never pledge or take Him in vain
Thy kingdom come-hope for the resurrection and the teaching of others about HIM on earth
Thy will be done-as in in sha allah, nothing happens in heaven or earth but what God allows or commands
On Earth as it is in Heaven-nothing happens without Gods approval
Give us this day our daily bread-meaning all that we have in the way of needs is dependent on Gods grace, HE feeds the birds, but they must gather it..
Forgive us our trespasses (sins)-requesting God to forgive of our daily errors
As we forgive those who trespass against us-forgiving those who sin against us (they don't know any better)
and lead us not into Temptation-help us to be strong so that we will not be tempted by the vain glory that satan has in this world.
but deliver us from evil-help us to keep satan away, help us to be strong and take us out of a bad situation if we should get into it
For thine is the kingdom-the whole world belongs to God
and the power-only God has power over us
and the glory forever-everything is Gods, always has been, always will be

So, in fact the Lords prayer, can be used to prove that Jesus taught them to pray ONLY TO ALLAH, ASKING ONLY STRENGTH FROM ALLAH, and GLORIFYING ONLY ALLAH IN ALL THINGS< it teaches that all things come from ALLAH and only to praise him and ask him for strength. Again, if the Christians would only read their book, they would understand, Jesus only said things to glorify God and his laws.