Ruling on drawing smiley faces when chatting on the internet

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Verily, those who belie Our Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations) and treat them with arrogance, for them the gates of heaven will not be opened, and they will not enter Paradise until the camel goes through the eye of the needle (which is impossible). Thus do We recompense the Mujrimûn (criminals, polytheists, and sinners). (Surah Al-Araf : verse 40)



Is it permissible to draw animate beings and then erase them for fun?
What is the ruling on drawing animate beings for fun and then erasing them straight away?.



Praise be to Allaah.


The texts of sharee’ah indicate that it is haraam to make images and that the image makers are cursed, and they state that they will be the most severely punished of people on the Day of Resurrection.

Al-Bukhaari (5347) narrated that Abu Juhayfah (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) cursed the image makers.

Al-Bukhaari (2225) and Muslim (2110) narrated that Sa’eed ibn Abi’l-Hasan said: A man came to Ibn ‘Abbaas and said: I am a man who makes these images; advise me about that. He said to him: I heard the Messenger of Allaah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) say: “Every image maker will be in Hell, and for every image that he made, a soul will be created which will punish him in Hell.” Ibn ‘Abbaas said: If you must do that, then make (images of) trees and inanimate things.

According to another version: “Whoever makes an image in this world will be commanded to breathe the soul into it on the Day of Resurrection, and he will not be able to do that.”

And it was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn Mas’ood (may Allah be pleased with him) said: I heard the Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) say: “The people who will be most severely punished on the Day of Resurrection will be the image-makers.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari (5950) and Muslim (2109).

The scholars of the Standing Committee for Issuing Fatwas said:

Whatever is images of animate beings such as insects and other living beings is not permissible, even if it is drawn on a blackboard or on paper, and even if the purpose of it is to help in teaching, because it is not essential and because of the general meaning of the evidence concerning that. Whatever is not an animate being, it is permissible to draw it for teaching and other purposes. End quote.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/685.

They also said:

What is prohibited is making images of animate beings, whether that is engraving or painting on walls or fabric or paper or woven cloth, and whether it is done with a feather or a pen or other equipment, whether the thing is drawn as it is or whether some imaginary element is introduced, so it is made smaller or larger or more beautiful or more ugly, or it is drawn as a stick figure. End quote.

Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah, 1/696

Shaykh Muhammad ibn Ibraaheem (may Allah have mercy on him) said:

One of the most serious of evils is making images of animate beings and keeping them and using them.
There is no difference between that which is three dimensional and that which is on paper, whether it is produced by machines or otherwise. This meaning was mentioned by al-Nawawi in Sharh Saheeh Muslim, and he mentioned that it is the view of the four imams. The hadeeths which emphatically warned against that are well known. End quote.

Fataawa Rasaa’il Muhammad ibn Ibraaheem, 13/173.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said:

Making images of animate beings, whether they are human or otherwise, is undoubtedly haraam and is a major sin, because it is proven that the one who does that is cursed by the Messenger of Allah (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him). This is clear, whether they are three-dimensional or drawn by hand. End quote.

Majmoo’ Fataawa wa Rasaa’il Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (2/288).

Thus it is clear that drawing animate beings is a major sin, and whatever is like that, it is not permissible to do it for fun. Fun cannot be by doing that which Allah has forbidden. Rather what the believer has to do is refrain from doing it, in obedience to Allah and His Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him).

If you must draw, then as Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allah be pleased with him) said, draw trees and things that are not animate beings.

And Allah knows best.

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Ruling on drawing smiley faces when chatting on the internet
Drawing faces or pictures of living beings is haram, but on forums and other places on the internet people draw emoticons using symbols, for example : D represents a smiling face if u look at it vertically. is this haram?.

Praise be to Allaah.


It seems – and Allaah knows best – that this face, whether it is smiling or sad, does not come under the same ruling as images that it is forbidden to make, draw, or use, for two reasons:

1 – It contains none of the features of a real face, such as eyes, mouth and nose, and it has no head or ears.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The image is the head; if the head is cut off, there is no image.” Narrated by al-Ismaa’eeli in his Mu’jam from the hadeeth of Ibn ‘Abbaas and classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in al-Silsilah al-Saheehah no. 1921 and in Saheeh al-Jaami’ no. 3864.

2 – The majority of fuqaha’ are of the view that if something is cut off from an image without which it could no longer live, then it is not a haraam image. For a detailed discussion of this issue and the views of other madhhabs, see Ahkaam al-Tasweer fi’l-Fiqh al-Islami, pp. 224-240.

But we should point out two things:

This usage in chatting on the internet does not come under the drawing of images, rather it comes under the use of images.

And Allaah knows best.
 

az101

http://www.miraathpublications.net/
salaam


CAN YOU PLEASE WRITE HERE THE Quran Versus WHICH DIRECTLY OR UNDIRECTLY , PROHIBIT DRAWING IMAGES OF ANIMATE THINGS ???

need for further study.....please.........
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When the prophet Salallahualihiwasalam says something ... you should follow it.

For Allah says in the Quran

Surra An-Najm

2. Your companion (Muhammad SAW) has neither gone astray nor has erred.

3. Nor does he speak of (his own) desire.

4. It is only an Inspiration that is inspired.

Now when Allah’s messenger (Salallahualihiwasallam) says something... it means it is an inspiration that was inspired to him ...as he does not speak from his own desire.

so in this case what does this make the hadith?

Hadith is wahi in a different form.

Now Alhumdulillah we The people for Quran and Sunnah Always follow the Authentic Ahadiths ( Sahih Al-Bukhari,Muslim etc )

Now this Ansari gave evidence from Sunnah that picture making of anything that has a soul is harram.. Except for unavoidable reasons e.g. passport , visa , membership card, health card etc. .

And yes Smilies are Harram and should be removed .
 

Hannah123

One Truth
Thanks for this, I always let my kids draw pics, so now I know better, alhamdulillah. But i have a few questions:
What about toys that are animate objects?
what about clothing with pics of living things?

And the toys i'm referring to are like ben10 or bakugan or action figures?
thanks.
 

az101

http://www.miraathpublications.net/
Kitaab At-Tawheed, Chapter: 58
What Has Been Said About Those Who Make
Pictures (of Living Things)

On the authority of Abu Hurairah (Radhi Allaahu Anhu) it is reported that the Messenger of Allah said:


"Allah , Most High said: "And who is more unjust than those who try to create the likeness of My creation? Let them create an atom, or let them create a wheat grain, or let them create a barley grain." (Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim)

Allah , Most High, informs us in this Hadith Qudsi, through the mouth of His Prophet, Muhammad , that there is none more unjust than those people who make pictures of living things, wishing to resemble Allah in His act of Creation. Then He , Almighty, All-powerful, challenges such people to create even the smallest and most insignificant of His visible, living creations, which is an atom, or to create the simplest of plant materials, such as a grain of wheat or a grain of barley; this He , Most High, does, in order to expose their weakness and inability.

Benefits Derived From This Hadith

1. The forbiddance of making drawings, paintings or carvings of any living things.

2. The lack of proper regard and respect for Allah of those who depict living things.

3. The Power of Allah and His Ability to create what He Wills.

4. The weakness and incapacity of those other than Him to create even the simplest of things from nothing.

Relevance of This Hadith to the Subject of the Chapter
That it proves that depicting living things is forbidden.

Relevance of This Hadith to the Subject of Tawheed
That the Hadith forbids making pictures of living things because this is an attempt to imitate Allah in His act of Creation, which is Shirk in Rabbship...ooOOoo..

On the authority of `A`ishah (may Allah be pleased with her) it is reported that the Messenger of Allah said:


"The most severely punished of people on the Day of Resurrection will be those who try to make the like of Allah's creation." (Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim)
The Prophet informs us in this Hadith that those who depict living creatures in their drawings, paintings and carvings, attempting to imitate Allah in His act of Creation, will face the most severe chastisement on the Day of Judgement for they are the worst of people in respect to Allah and the most wicked in committing evil - this is why they are most deserving of Allah's Wrath and His punishment.

Benefits Derived From This Hadith

1. The strictness of the forbiddance of making pictures of living creatures.

2. Evidence of the reason for the prohibition of depicting living things.

3. That punishment on the Day of Resurrection is in proportion to one's sins.

Relevance of This Hadith to the Subject of the Chapter

That the Hadith proves the forbiddance of making pictures of living things.

Relevance of This Hadith to the Subject of Tawheed

That it forbids the depiction of living creatures because this is an attempt to imitate Allah in His act of Creation and this is Shirk in Rabbship.

Important Note

He who makes pictures of living creatures will receive the severest punishment on the Day of Judgement if he did so in order to have that image worshipped because in so doing, he is guilty of kufr, while if he intends by it to imitate Allah , he is also guilty of disbelief.

..ooOOoo..

On the authority of Ibn `Abbas (Radhi Allaahu Anhu) it is reported that he heard the Messenger of Allah say:


"Every picture maker is in the Fire. A soul will be placed in every picture made by him and it will punish him in the Hell-fire." (Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim)
Because the picture makers are the wickedest of people in respect to Allah , and the worst of them in performing deeds which Allah forbidden, the Prophet informed us in this Hadith that whoever made a picture of a living creature in this life, Allah will breathe life into it on the Day of Resurrection after which that image will punish him in the Fire and this is the recompense for his evil deeds. Therefore, it behoves every picture maker to fear Allah , the Almighty, the All-powerful and to abandon his evil employment; and if he does that, Allah will reward him, for whoever abandoned something for Allah's sake will be rewarded with something better by Him, Most High.

Benefits Derived From This Hadith

1. The forbiddance of making pictures of living creatures.

2. The permissibility of making pictures of things which do not possess a soul.

3. That reward is in accordance with one's deeds.

4. That the remuneration which the picture maker receives for his work is forbidden because when an action is prohibited, so too is profiting from it.

Relevance of This Hadith to the Subject of the Chapter

That the Hadith proves that it is forbidden to make pictures of living creatures.

Relevance of This Hadith to the Subject of Tawheed

That it prohibits making pictures of living things, because doing so constitutes an attempt to imitate Allah in His action of Creation and this is Shirk in Rabbship.

..ooOOoo..

It is reported in a marfoo' form, on the authority of Ibn `Abbas (Radhi Allaahu Anhu): "Whoever made pictures in this life, will be charged with breathing life into it and he will not be able to do so." (Narrated by Bukhari and Muslim)

The Prophet informs us in this Hadith that whoever made pictures of creatures possessing a soul in this life, will be charged on the Day of Judgement with breathing life into them; and Allah knows that he will not be able to do so, but He will charge him thus in order to make clear to him his own powerlessness and weakness and to reproach him for his sin.


1. The forbiddance of depicting living creatures.

2. The permissibility of making pictures of things without a soul.

3. That reward is in accordance with one's deeds.

Relevance of This Hadith to the Subject of the Chapter

That it proves that it is forbidden to make pictures of living creatures.

Relevance of This Hadith to the Subject of Tawheed

That it prohibits making pictures of living things because doing so is an attempt to imitate Allah in His action of Creation and this is Shirk in Rabbship.

..ooOOoo..

On the authority of Abul Hayaaj Al-Asadi, it is reported that `Ali (Radhi Allaahu Anhu) said to him: "Shall I not send you on a mission on which I was sent by Allah's Messenger ?

"Do not leave any image without erasing it, nor any elevated grave without leveling it to the ground." (Narrated by Muslim)

Because Islam is careful to block all roads to Shirk, whether apparent or hidden, `Ali Ibn Abi Talib (Radhi Allaahu Anhu) informs us that the Messenger of Allah charged him with the task of effacing all of the pictures of living things which he might find and with leveling all of those graves which had edifices or grave stones over them. This he did in order to protect the Muslims' beliefs from the evils of worship of graven images and adoration of graves, because making pictures of living creatures and building over graves leads to their glorification and reverence and attributing to them that, which they do not deserve - that which is for Allah , Alone; and anyone who has travelled throughout the Muslim world will have found such things in profusion - things which make one with correct beliefs shudder and sadden his heart: Circumambulation of graves in the manner in which the pilgrims circumambulate the Ka'abah, in Makkah; animals sacrificed to the graves' inhabitants instead of their being slaughtered in Allah's Name, supplication of the graves' inhabitants and many other acts of Shirk and innovation unknown to the Messenger of Allah , his Companions or the pious generations who came after them.

Benefits Derived From This Narration1. The obligation to reject that which is detestable.

2. That making images of living creatures is forbidden.

3. That building over graves is forbidden.

Relevance of This Narration to the Subject of the Chapter

That it proves that making pictures of living things is prohibited.

Relevance of This Narration to the Subject of Tawheed

That it prohibits the making of images of living creatures because doing so amounts to attempting to imitate Allah in His action of Creation and this is Shirk in Rabbship.

Important Note

This forbiddance of making pictures includes all living creatures which possess a soul. It is pure fancy to imagine that by putting a line across the neck of the image, or obliterating its features, it becomes permissible.


Kitaab At-Tawheed
Shaikh Imam Muhammad Abdul-Wahhaab
 

az101

http://www.miraathpublications.net/
Thanks for this, I always let my kids draw pics, so now I know better, alhamdulillah. But i have a few questions:
What about toys that are animate objects?
what about clothing with pics of living things?

And the toys i'm referring to are like ben10 or bakugan or action figures?
thanks.
Dear sister in islam

May Allah have mercy on you and your family.

Ruling regarding pictures on cloating

What is the ruling on wearing garments on which there are images?

Praise be to Allaah.

It is not permissible for a person to wear a garment in which there are images of animals or people, or to wear headgear and the like on which there are images of people or animals. That is because it is reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The angels do not enter a house in which there are images.” Hence we do not think that anyone should keep pictures for memories as they say, and whoever has pictures for memories should destroy them, whether he has put them on the wall or in an album or anywhere else, because keeping them in the house denies the members of that household of having the angels enter their house. The hadeeth referred to above is a saheeh report from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). And Allaah knows best.



From the fatwas of Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih ibn ‘Uthaymeen in al-Da’wah magazine, issue # 1765/54
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Below is the Ruling regarding toys.

Playing with toys in the shape of people or animals
since we're not allowed to make images of humans and animals, should children be allowed to play with toys in the shape of humans or animals?.


Praise be to Allaah.

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

With regard to those in which the shape is incomplete, in which there is only a part of the limbs or head, but the shape is not clear, there is no doubt that these are permissible, and these are like the dolls with which ‘Aa’ishah used to play. (Narrated in al-Bukhaari, 6130; Muslim, 2440).

But if the shape is complete, and it is as if you are looking at a person – especially if it can move or speak – then I am not entirely at ease with the idea of them being permissible, because this is a complete imitation of the creation of Allaah. It seems that the dolls with which ‘Aa’ishah used to play were not like this, so it is preferable to avoid them. But I cannot say that they are definitely haraam, because there are concessions granted to young children that are not granted to adults in such matters. It is natural for young children to play and have fun, they are not obliged to do any of the acts of worship so we cannot say that that they are wasting their time in idle play. But if a person wants to be on the safe side in such matters, he should cut off the head or hold it near the fire until it softens, then he should press it until the features disappear.



Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Muhammad ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him), 2/277-278


A'ishah, may Allah be pleased with her, said, "The Messenger of Allah came back from the campaign of Tabuk or Khaybar, and there was a curtain covering her room. The wind came and lifted the curtain, revealing some toys belonging to `A'ishah, may Allah be pleased with her. The Prophet said:

(What is this, O `A'ishah) She, may Allah be pleased with her, said, "My toys.'' Among them he saw a horse with two wings made of cloth. He said:

(What is this that I see in the midst of them) She, may Allah be pleased with her, said, "A horse.'' The Messenger of Allah said,

(And what is this on it) She, may Allah be pleased with her, said, "Wings.'' The Messenger of Allah said,

(A horse with two wings) She, may Allah be pleased with her, said, "Did you not hear that Sulayman, peace be upon him, had a horse that had wings'' She, may Allah be pleased with her, said, "The Messenger of Allah smiled so broadly that I could see his molars.'
 

Abu Ameerah

Junior Member
So taking pictures of human being using today's DIGICAM AND MOBILE is covered by the above mentioned Hadiths? in short it is Haraam to take pictures except for necessity? kindly elaborate more and post clear FATAWA from scholars.
 

az101

http://www.miraathpublications.net/
So taking pictures of human being using today's DIGICAM AND MOBILE is covered by the above mentioned Hadiths? in short it is Haraam to take pictures except for necessity? kindly elaborate more and post clear FATAWA from scholars.


Na'am !! It is Haraam to take pictures except for necessity !!


http://islamqa.com/en/ref/365/photograph
Ruling on photographs
ASSALAMALEIKUM
My question is : IS the taking of PHOTOGRAPHS ALLOWED,(I know drawing pictures of living things is not allowed -but what about taking photograph's of people etc.), can you supply me with some evidence please. I need this information quickly.- Inshallah.
Jaazakala hair.


Praise be to Allaah.

Photography (tasweer) means the taking of pictures of living, animate moving beings, like people, animals, birds, etc. The ruling is that it is forbidden on the basis of a number of reports, such as the following:

'Abdullaah ibn Mas'ood (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Those who will be most severely punished by Allaah on the Day of Resurrection will be the image-makers." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, see al-Fath, 10/382).

Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Allaah, may He be exalted, says: 'Who does more wrong than the one who tries to create something like My creation? Let him create a grain of wheat or a kernel of corn.'" (Reported by al-Bukhaari, see Fath al-Baari, 10/385).

'Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: "Shall I not send you on the same mission as the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) sent me? Do not leave any built-up tomb without levelling it, and do not leave any picture in any house without erasing it." (Reported by Muslim and al-Nisaa'i; this is the version narrated by al-Nisaa'i).

Ibn 'Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him and his father) reported that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "Every image-maker will be in the Fire, and for every image that he made a soul will be created for him, which will be punished in the Fire." Ibn 'Abbaas said: "If you must do that, make pictures of trees and other inanimate objects." (Reported by Muslim, 3/1871)

These ahaadeeth indicate that pictures of animate beings are haraam, whether they are humans or other creatures, whether they are three-dimensional or two-dimensional, whether they are printed, drawn, etched, engraved, carved, cast in moulds, etc. These ahaadeeth include all of these types of pictures.

The Muslim should submit to the teachings of Islam and not argue with them by saying, "But I am not worshipping them or prostrating to them!" If we think about just one aspect of the evil caused by the prevalence of photographs and pictures in our times, we will understand something of the wisdom behind this prohibition: that aspect is the great corruption caused by the provoking of physical desires and subsequent spread of immorality caused by these pictures.

The Muslim should not keep any pictures of animate beings in his house, because they will prevent the angels from entering. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: "The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or pictures." (Reported by al-Bukhaari, see al-Fath, 10/380).

But nowadays, unfortunately, one can even find in some Muslim homes statues of gods worshipped by the kuffaar (such as Buddha etc.) which they keep on the basis that they are antiques or decorative pieces. These things are more strictly prohibited than others, just as pictures which are hung up are worse than pictures which are not hung up, for how easily they can lead to glorification, and cause grief or be a source of boasting! We cannot say that these pictures are kept for memory's sake, because true memories of a Muslim relative or friend reside in the heart, and we remember them by praying for mercy and forgiveness for them.

Taking pictures with a camera involves human actions such as focusing, pressing the shutter, developing, printing, and so on. We cannot call it anything other than "picture-making" or tasweer, which is the expression used by all Arabic-speakers to describe this action.

In the book Al-I'laam bi naqd kitaab al-halaal wa'l-haraam, the author says: "Photography is even more of an imitation of the creation of Allaah than pictures which are engraved or drawn, so it is even more deserving of being prohibited… There is nothing that could exclude photography from the general meaning of the reports." (p. 42, see also Fataawa Islamiyyah, 4/355).

Among the scholars who have discussed the issue of photography is Shaykh Naasir al-Deen al-Albaani, who said: "Some of them differentiate between hand-drawn pictures and photographic images by claiming that the latter are not products of human effort, and that no more is involved than the mere capturing of the image. This is what they claim. The tremendous energy invested the one who invented this machine that can do in few seconds what otherwise could not be done in hours does not count as human effort, according to these people! Pointing the camera, focusing it, and taking the picture, preceded by installation of the film and followed by developing and whatever else that I may not know about… none of this is the result of human effort, according to them!

Some of them explain how this photography is done, and summarize that no less than eleven different actions are involved in the making of a picture. In spite of all this, they say that this picture is not the result of human action! Can it be permissible to hang up a picture of a man, for example, if it is produced by photography, but not if it is drawn by hand?

Those who say that photography is permitted have "frozen" the meaning of the word "tasweer," restriciting it only to the meaning known at the time of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and not adding the meaning of photography, which is "tasweer" or "picture-making" in every sense - linguistic, legal, and in its harmful effects, and as is clear from the definition mentioned above. Years ago, I said to one of them, By the same token, you could allow idols which have not been carved but have been made by pressing a button on some machine that turns out idols by the dozen. What do you say to that?"
(Aadaab al-Zafaaf by al-Albaani, p. 38)

It is also worth quoting the opinion of some contemporary scholars who allow the taking of photographs but say that the pictures should not be kept: "The angels do not enter a house in which there is a dog or pictures." (See al-Sharh al-Mumti', 2/198).

There are many bad things involved in the making of pictures. Besides the element of imitating the creation of Allaah - which is an accusation denied by many of those who make pictures - reality bears witness to the great extent of immorality and provocation of desires caused by the prevalence of pictures and picture-making nowadays. We must remove or blot out every picture, except when it is too difficult to do so, like the pictures which are overwhelmingly prevalent in food packaging, or pictures used in encyclopaedias and reference books. We should remove what we can, and be careful about any provocative pictures that may be found.

"So keep your duty to Allaah and fear Him as much as you can…" [al-Taghaabun 64:16 - interpretation of the meaning]

Photographs which are essential are permitted - such as those required for identity documents, or for identifying or pursuing criminals [e.g. "wanted" posters and the like - translator's note], or for educational purposes which cannot be achieved otherwise. The principle in sharee'ah is that we should not exaggerate about what is necessary.

We ask Allaah to accept our repentance and have mercy on us, and to forgive our excesses, for He is the All-Hearing Who answers prayers. May Allaah bless our Prophet Muhammad.

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az101

http://www.miraathpublications.net/
^ Its not Haram. Im gonna get back to you for spouting that

I am sure you know who this scholar is-----> Muhammad ibn Saalih al-Uthaymeen (May Allah have mercy on him)

...bring something from him.


Taking pictures without a necessity is Harram

The use of smilies in the forum mentioned by Ansari in this thread are Harram to use.

READ THE ABOVE FATWAS PLEASE... Subhanallah we posting information Beneficial to those who READ!!!
 

Ibn Uthaymin

Junior member
I am sure you know who this scholar is-----> Muhammad ibn Saalih al-Uthaymeen (May Allah have mercy on him)

...bring something from him.


Taking pictures without a necessity is Harram

The use of smilies in the forum mentioned by Ansari in this thread are Harram to use.

READ THE ABOVE FATWAS PLEASE... Subhanallah we posting information Beneficial to those who READ!!!

I was a lil busy before, so ill prove to you why pictures are not haram.

And i did read the above fataawa yaani.


Question: What is the ruling on filming and videotaping, and in which cases is it permissible?

Answered by: Shaykh Muhammad al-Maliki

With regard to filming, videotaping and photography, let us return to the original form which is photography; the `Ulamaa' (Scholars) have differed in this matter. The reason they hold different opinions is based on the hadeeth where the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said: "The curse of Allaah is upon the musawwireen."[1] The word musawwireen (مصورين) in Arabic originally meant those who paint pictures of living beings like mankind or animals. This was the original (meaning of the word) soorah (صورة). However, the Arabs of today, when they saw the camera and how it projects pictures and photographs, they named the photograph "soorah" and the photographer "musawwir"; to my understanding this is wrong. They even call the photocopy machine "soorah", whereas it is not (really) "soorah" as it copies, and in Arabic the (word) copy is nuskhah (نسخة). The problem stemmed from that aspect and that is why some of the `Ulamaa' say that photographs are haraam and the one who takes photographs is cursed as in the hadeeth.

Some other `Ulamaa' like Shaykh Ibn Uthaymeen رحمه الله who looked very deeply into the issue, determined that this is not the "soorah" that is mentioned in the hadeeth. It only holds the shape of the figure like a mirror does, so they say this not haraam (forbidden). The advice is to leave it if it is not needed; but yes, they say that it is not the "soorah" referred to in the hadeeth.

Some other `Ulamaa' also named the one who videotapes as "musawwir" and they say that this is even worse because you can see men and animals walking etc. In my view, this is not the proper opinion from amongst the opinions of the Scholars. The proper opinion is that this is not a "soorah" and the one who videotapes or films is not a "musawwir" even if the Arabs of today call them "musawwir". Allaah knows best if the Arabs at the time of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم were alive today if they would not call it "musawwir". This is because the Arabic language is very specific - more specific than the English language; and in English we have the terms "painter", "photographer", and "one who videotapes". In English there are different names for them but Arabic is more specific than any other language. As the early Arabs (at the time of the Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم) did not see (these instruments - camera, videotape etc.) they did not give them names. However, the Arabs of today, when they saw them, they named them "soorah" and "musawwir", and then they implemented the ruling based on the hadeeth to this, saying that "the curse is upon the one who is doing so and so"; to me, that is wrong and Allaah knows best.

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[1] Reported with the following wording as part of a longer hadeeth in Saheeh al-Bukhaaree in The Book of Divorce (كتاب الطلاق), Hadeeth (#5032).




I agree though, regardless if you think photos are halal you should not display them such as putting them in a frame or hanging them on a wall as it is likely to lead to veneration/ idol worshiping. Even those that said it was haaram they made the permissibility of images on ID cards or money out of necessity.

In short:

1. Drawing images is haram.
2. Keeping idols/statues is haram.
3. Reflected image (mirror) is haalal.
4. And photography, it seems there is difference here.
 

az101

http://www.miraathpublications.net/
Alhumdulillah, Prasie be for Allah and may Allah blessings be upon Muhammad (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) !!

Akhie,I ask you to read this with an open/clear heart.

The Fatwa you have given.. by Shaykh Muhammad al-Maliki is ..respectfuly refuted in some areas by the Fatwa committee of Saudi Arabia under the authority of Abdul-aziz ibn Baz.

If you will read closely and Compare what you have seen in the fatwa of Shaykh Muhammad al-Maliki with what Abdul-aziz ibn Abdullah ibn Baz and others of the fatwa commite have said regarding the fatwa you have posted and have clearly presented solid logic and evidence which proves that impermissible of photographs.

Photography is unlike the reflection in a mirror , for an image no longer exists when a person moves away from the mirror while photographs remain even after a person moves away.... ( Source: from the link given below)

http://abdurrahman.org/tawheed/fatawa/pdf/pc-4/368.pdf


"Photographs which are essential are permitted - such as those required for identity documents, or for identifying or pursuing criminals [e.g. "wanted" posters and the like - translator's note], or for educational purposes which cannot be achieved otherwise. The principle in sharee'ah is that we should not exaggerate about what is necessary. ( IslamQA )
 

az101

http://www.miraathpublications.net/
to stay on the topic...

the use of smilies majority of them are harram what should be done regarding that as many people innocently use them.

they should be removed as to save the creator of these image/emoticons from an on going sin.
 

Ibn Uthaymin

Junior member
The fatwaa by Shaykh Muhammed Maliki clearly refutes what other Mashaaykh have said. And if thats the case then i dont think smileys are haram. In its essence photography is light reflected.


Anyway, you cant disagree with Yasir Qadhi

This is what Yasir Qadhi says:

"...in my opinion, there is a very clear halaal alternative. I myself use this with my own children. If one takes digital images, or videotapes them, and then DOES NOT print out these images, but leaves them on the computer or cassette, this will actually be very similar to a reflected image. The only difference is that this image has been stored. There will be no hard copy which will qualify as a picture; rather, these will be like light rays being given off...”
 

eminbey

信得過…是我的名字
It is a very delightful to find my brothers in Allah here discussing some subbject in acivilized behavior
 

az101

http://www.miraathpublications.net/
Read The fatwa you have posted by by Shaykh Muhammed Maliki again ... so that you are clear with what you have posted

The fatwaa by Shaykh Muhammed Maliki clearly refutes what other Mashaaykh have said. And if thats the case then i dont think smileys are haram. In its essence photography is light reflected.

Shaykh Naasiruddeen Al-Albaanee says :-

How did the camera reach this state (in its development), so that just by pressing a button a picture comes out in one minute? How did it reach this level? By dreams! or by work? It reached this level by (the work of) the hand.

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Alhumdulillah , praise be for Allah

. before you make "Taqleed" on Shaykh Muhammed Maliki , I advice you to Read and compare the Evidence , with what you have posted as i feel you are not reading.

(on of the meanings of Taqleed is to take the statement of someone without knowing all of the evidences)


The scholars have explained the difference between the two matters, refuting those who use that as evidence to say that photography is permissible..

Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allaah have mercy on him) said – refuting those who regard them as the same - : You have made a mistake by regarding them as the same and drawing an analogy, for two reasons:

1 – A photograph cannot be likened to the image in a mirror, because a photograph does not disappear and the temptation caused by it is still there.

As for the image in a mirror, it is not permanent and it disappears when the person who is facing the mirror goes away. This is an obvious difference which no man with any common sense can dispute.

2 – The text that came from the infallible Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbids images in general and states that things that are like photographs are forbidden, such as images on garments and walls.

In another hadeeth he said: “The makers of these images – and he pointed to the images on the cloth – will be punished on the Day of Resurrection and it will be said to them: ‘Give life to that which you have created.’”

And it is proven that he (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) erased the images that were on the walls of the Ka’bah on the day of the Conquest (of Makkah), which come under the same ruling as photographs. If we accept that photographs are like images in mirrors, then we cannot draw an analogy because it is established in sharee’ah that there is no room for analogy when there is a text, rather analogy comes into play when there is no text as is well known to the scholars of usool and all scholars. End quote from Majmoo’ Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz (27/442).

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I am sure "human hands" were used when the smilies where being created ... the machine can not create the image on its own !!

Shaykh Naasiruddeen Al-Albaanee explains

PLEASE READ !!!

"It is a necessity for the photographer to direct the camera towards that which he wants to photograph. In the end, it is necessary for him to press or squeeze the button to snap the shot. Therefore, this is also a picture made by hand "

There are those who are called artists, as they claim to be. One of them may begin to produce a statue/idol (sanam) and may take days or perhaps months. Now it is possible, by just the push of a button and there will be a number of these statues reproduced. They will come out one after another, complete perfect statues.

I said to him: What is your view of this? Is this permissible? He said: It is not permissible. I said: But, this was not made by hand. It was made by a machine or instrument. So, he was stumped, unable to respond.


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In short...

Human hand is used in the makeing of a photograpgh ... pressing the button Squeezing the button on the digital camera ..useing of a Hand with thumb and fingers are involved.

Smiles are made by a human hand as they did not create themselves, sure you may call it light on the screen but how did it get to that stage in the first place?

did it not orginate by a human being... who used his intellect and hands to create them smilies , useing a digital pen or a mouse which was held in his own hand..
This person is a Picture Maker !!!!
(as explained by Shaykh Naasiruddeen Al-Albaanee)

does not this catargises as the "picture-maker-" refered in the sahih Ahadiths.
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Making/using Smilies ARE HARAM

He [Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him)] also narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“Every image-maker will be in the Fire, and every image that he made will be made to appear to him and will torment him in Hell.” Ibn ‘Abbaas said:

“If you must do that, then make trees and things that have no soul.”
(Narrated by al-Bukhaari and Muslim).


The general meaning of the ahaadeeth is that it is absolutely forbidden to make images of anything that has a soul
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Inshallah the sound heart will be able to understand this clearly
 

asalaf salih

Junior Member
Asalamoee 3alikoem brothers, Masha Allah good done. Al hamdoelillah enough evidence for those whom fear Allah soebhanah. There is also a hadith sahih saying three wil get the severest punishment in hell one of them is images maker. including PHOTOGRAPHY why?
The process making a picture. Having a cam taking a position, pushing on the button. The intention of making a picture developing it..
If you compare the hall thing of drawing a body or making a picture of it. The result is the same. And the sin is also the same.
The dalil shown by me brothers is more than enough barakah lahoe fihim ajma3in.
:salam2:
 
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