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jazz muslim

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well i m in pakistan and i have a problem in somethings

1.We follow hanafi,, k now in paki and india they are two sects in hanafi or school of thoughts
2.Bralvi and Deobandi... now wat are bralvi's they have a clear concept that MUHAMMAD(P.B.U.H) is every where , he listen's our prayer, and he is seeing us like dat ok .
3.Deobandis are clear no bad concepts like dat they are following pure sunnah and Quran like saudis but only IMAM ABU Hanifa.
4.I followed bralvi but left now and following deobandiz now u know they have a concept they put a verse on that first

" ya ayu halazina amanutqullah wa qono masSadiqeen "
that is Bilevers have taqwah and be wid good people that is who have taqwa.
truly i have been wid dem and left many sins, now i have a beard,and stop seeing bad movies and many more.. sins i have left now..
but they do one bidah which i don't think is big
they pray a surah and pass this Sawab do dead ones who died already..
so i don't think thats a big sin like bralvis doing shirk,,,,
and one more news
SHIEKH SUDAIS came to PAKISTAN and he offered prayer in our mosque too.,.
i hope he knew that we pray and pass it on too the dead ones so is it ok to follow them because they are clear hanafis and practicing muslims real practicing cause i know how much bad i was
like being wid girls , songs , *!*!*!*! , and i used to do many sins.. but i left by being wid dem and worshiping ALLAH......................
so help if i pass my sawab to dead ones like surah fatiha or something ... would dat be a shirk ?
if it is a shirk then i can leave,,
i know i can follow imam habal , imam shafi ..etc etc
but am i on the right path ?
plz tell me i m so afraid ok
plz do tell me
but don;'t be ignorant ok .... just tell is dat a shirk or not
 
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Salem9022

Junior Member
In Islam there is no Such thing called Madhab(Methodology) Except for the (Methodology) of the Prophet and His companions who we call the Salaf-es-Saleh the Pious Predessesors. Unfortunaetly what has happened in the Muslim world is that people think they need to follow some sort of Madhab like Imam Abu Hanifa, Shafi, etc. and then they say there is 4 Madhabs in Islam lol which is a crazy assumption. Besides the 4 Madhabs there were about 20 others. The Madhabs which was written by these Great Scholars Like Imam Abu Hanifa And Imam Shafi, and Imam Malik etc. was because Muslims uses to control many countries in the world, and the people needed to follow the practices of Islam like how to pray, how to give zakat, etc. It's only a manuel guide on what you should do to practise Islam, this is basically all these 4 Madhabs are. And there is some mistakes also which these scholars Made because they were only MEN. and Like I said besides the 4 madhabs there were 20 others. So we Muslims do not blindly follow any Madhabs even though there is noting wrong with following them, But we should know that we Muslims take our religion from The Salaf (Prophet and His companions). These great scholars also took their religion from the Salaf and we should also, And if there is something we argue upon then we should go back to how the Prophet and his companions did it.
 
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junaid hasan

Banned
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did that brother ask something about madhab?

his question was something others and we started to give opinion about madhab. i think brother also didn´t say his words step by step , he just mixed his sentences.
and every madhab is on right path alhamdulillah. ANd its if any laymen is able to judge the authencity of hadiths then he should ask scholar about evidence and folow.

SChool of thoughts ins´t sect
 
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mymohsin

Pls mak Duwa 4 me
jazz muslim said:
well i m in pakistan and i have a problem in somethings

1.We follow hanafi,, k now in paki and india they are two sects in hanafi or school of thoughts
2.Bralvi and Deobandi... now wat are bralvi's they have a clear concept that MUHAMMAD(P.B.U.H) is every where , he listen's our prayer, and he is seeing us like dat ok .
3.Deobandis are clear no bad concepts like dat they are following pure sunnah and Quran like saudis but only IMAM ABU Hanifa.
4.I followed bralvi but left now and following deobandiz now u know they have a concept they put a verse on that first

" ya ayu halazina amanutqullah wa qono masSadiqeen "
that is Bilevers have taqwah and be wid good people that is who have taqwa.
truly i have been wid dem and left many sins, now i have a beard,and stop seeing bad movies and many more.. sins i have left now..
but they do one bidah which i don't think is big
they pray a surah and pass this Sawab do dead ones who died already..
so i don't think thats a big sin like bralvis doing shirk,,,,
and one more news
SHIEKH SUDAIS came to PAKISTAN and he offered prayer in our mosque too.,.
i hope he knew that we pray and pass it on too the dead ones so is it ok to follow them because they are clear hanafis and practicing muslims real practicing cause i know how much bad i was
like being wid girls , songs , *!*!*!*! , and i used to do many sins.. but i left by being wid dem and worshiping ALLAH......................
so help if i pass my sawab to dead ones like surah fatiha or something ... would dat be a shirk ?
if it is a shirk then i can leave,,
i know i can follow imam habal , imam shafi ..etc etc
but am i on the right path ?
plz tell me i m so afraid ok
plz do tell me
but don;'t be ignorant ok .... just tell is dat a shirk or not
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Salam Brothers/Sisters,

Brother I m not intrested in Baralvi or Deobandis, as for us we have Quran and Sunnah and if at all for more explanation we can look into the life of our four qualifas and may Allah help and protect us from such a problem which we cant find in these and unforunatly if get also then we have our four Imams.

Brother what u have mention just reading sura and requesting Allah to please give reward of this to someone dead as he is Al-Rahman, Al-Raheem. to my lil knowledge i dont think its wrong but it will better if u ask this to an Aleem.

Masha Allah nice to know about the changes in u brother keep it up may Allah help u/us and give more and more strength in following the path of truth (Islam) and pls make duwa for us also.

Jazak Allah
 
abubaseer

abubaseer

tanzil.info
Staff member
As Salaam Alaykum Brothers and Sisters,

Please do not confuse Aqeedah with Fiqh. First and foremost is Aqeedah then comes Fiqh.

I'm in no way trying to say that Fiqh is unimportant and we should inshaAllah! strive to follow the Fiqh which is the closest to Quran and Sunnah and understanding of Sahabas RA. to the best of our abilities.

The barelvis and Deobandis have major problem in their Aqeedah.

And yes scholars have written books with reference from Quran and Sunnah which clearly shows the prolems in their Aqeedah.

On Barelvis, scholar from Pakistan Allama Ehsaan Elahi Zaheer (InshaAllah Shaheed) has written a book "Barelviya", that is name of urdu translation, it was actually written in Arabic.

On Deobandis, there is book "Ad Deobandiyyah" written by aalim from Pakistan. Again its in arabic.

And as for correct understanding of Islaam. We agree that Quran and Hadeeth are our references. But Quran and Hadeeth with whose understanding?

My understaing or your understanding ?

Quran and hadeeth with the understanding of the Sahabas RA
 is important.
reference -->http://www.turntoislam.com/forum/showthread.php?t=29138&highlight=interpret

P.S: This is very sensitive topic particularly in subcontinenet so lets discuss it with proper adab, otherwise the mods will close it :)
 
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