**SHIRK IN TASHAHHUD!!!!!!

[OsMaN_93]

ABOUT THIS VIDEO:
Book: The Clarified Ruling of Mistakes Done In Salat, p. 143-144:

[1/22] Reciting the statement: "As-Salâmu 'Alaika [you] Ayyuha An-Nabi" in the Tashahhud:

Al-Bukhâri (rahimahullâh) narrated in his "Sahih" that Allâh's Messenger (sal'Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam) said: '....when you perform your Salât, say [in Tashahhud]: "At-Tahiyyâtu Lillâh was-Salawâtu wat-Tayyibât. As-Salâmu 'Alaika Ayyuhan-Nabi wa rahmatullâhi wa barakatuh...".

Commenting on this hadith, al-Hâfith ibn Hajar said: 'Other narrations of the hadith bear different wording regarding time; during the Prophet's (sal'Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam) presence amongst Muslims, they used to address him [saying 'Alaika] but after his (sal'Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam) death one should use the third person pronoun ['Alân-Nabi: on him].

In the chapter titled with 'Asking Permission' in Sahihal-Bukhâri (Vol. 8, Book 74, No. 281), it was narrated from Abu Ma'mar from Ibn Mas'ûd -after reciting the hadith stating Tashahhud- that he [ibn Mas'ûd] said: '[we used to say this word] when he (sa'Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam) was still alive. But after his death we say 'As-Salâmu [peace be] that is 'Alân-Nabi [upon the Prophet]'. This narration was also narrated by Abi 'Uwânah in his "Sahih", as-Sirâj, al-Jawzaqi, Abu Nu'aim, al-'Asbahâni and al-Baihaqi through many narrations traced back to Abi Nu'aim -one of al-Bukhâri's Shaikhs- who narrated the hadith in the following wording: 'when the Prophet (sal'Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam) passed away, we used to say [in Tashahhud] "As-Salâmu 'Alân-Nabi" without the word "that is". The same wording was narrated by ibn Abi Shaibah from Abi Nu'aim.

After relating this narration traced back to Abi 'Uwânah; As-Subki commented in his "Sharhul Minhâj": 'If this narration is proved to be authentic, it clearly states that after the Prophet's (sal'Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam) death, it is not an obligation on a muslim to use the second person pronoun ['Alaika, i.e., on you] in his Tashahhud; instead one should say: "'Alân-Nabi" [on the Prophet]'. I (i.e., ibn Hajar) believe that the narration is indeed authentic for which I found a strong supporting narration which runs as follows: Abdir-Razzâq said that ibn Juraij told him from 'Atâ that the Sahabah used to say -during the Prophet's (sal'Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam) life- "As-Salâmu 'Alaika Ayyuhan-Nabi"; but after his (sal'Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam) death, they used to say: "As-Salâmu 'Alân-Nabi". This narration has an authentic chain of narrators.(2)

Ibn Hajar then continued: 'The apparent meaning of the narration is that the Sahabah used to use the second person pronoun during the Prophet's (sal'Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam) life but after his (sal'Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam) death, they used to use the third person pronoun "As-Salâmu 'Alan-Nabi".(3)

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i dont believe this is true , any opinions??

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

As-salaamu `alaykum.

Baarak Allaah feekum, I'm guessing this is taken from Shaykh Mashhoor Hasan Aaal Salmaan's book (named above). May Allaah reward him. However, despite these ahaadeeth, many have disagreed on this subject, and we all know of Ibn Mas`ood's, rahimahullaah, severe caution towards anything that could lead to shirk and bid`ah... As for not believing it, then the ahaadeeth are authentic! So there is nothing to disbelieve in. However, Ibn Mas`ood and others held that the matter became impermissible after the passing of the Messenger, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, to use such wording and others did not...

A simple issue of differing in fiqh, although I would take the safer option and I do say "upon the Prophet" more than the other, "upon you, O Prophet".

 

[OsMaN_93]

but....

brother Al-kashmiri:

So when it is claimed that we should "Pray as you see me (Rasullilah ) pray", yet by doing so for generations, those at least who hold that it is permissible to say that in Tashahhud, have been doing Shirk?

Now the claim is that it was only for the time of Prophet but here is the contradiction, according to his Tawhid, it is a Shirk to call on someone who is even alive (but not physically there), now does this mean the Sahaba (may Allah be pleased with them) that were not in Madinah or praying Salat in there home as an example, were doing Shirk?
V CONFUSED...**

May Allah save us from such Fitnah. And Allah knows best.

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

As-salaamu `alaykum.

No, there is no shirk in this (from those who followed the sahaabah) because the Messenger, sall-Allahu `alayhi wasallam, told us to convey the salaams to him, for they reach him. In an authentic hadeeth in Al-Mukhtarah of Ad-Diyaa', `Alee Ibn Husain Ibn `Alee saw someone about to supplicate to the Prophet, sal-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, so he prevented him from doing so. He then conveyed the hadeeth of Ibn `Umar, that when he use to pass by the grave of the Messenger of Allaah, sall-Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, Abu Bakr and his father (who are buried together), he would say "As-salaamu `alaykum Yaa Muhammad, As-salaamu `alaykum Yaa Aboo Bakr, As-salaamu `alaykum Yaa Abee."

Anyway, we need not to talk about the differing of opinion too much, we aren't scholars... Instead why don't we read an explanation of the meanings of the Tashahhud, that would be better, http://www.shurooh.com/downloads/pdf/tashahhud.pdf.

 

[junaid hasan]

I think sheikh had explained out of context. ANyway there is no shirk in tashahhud. People can have his own opinion but they are responcible for their opinion. Dont worry brother about this video.

 

[Al-Kashmiri]

I think sheikh had explained out of context. ANyway there is no shirk in tashahhud. People can have his own opinion but they are responcible for their opinion. Dont worry brother about this video.

As-salaamu `alaykum akhi, I hope your ok.

Just wanted to make you aware (in case you didn't notice), but the one who said it is shirk isn't the Shaykh, Mashhoor Hasan Aal-Salmaan, the famous verifer of ahaadeeth in Ash-Shaam. I doubled checked my version of the book to clarify (It's pages were numbered using Roman Numerals, what a pain lol!). In addition, I haven't seen it being labeled as shirk by Shaykh Al-Albaanee in his Sifat us-Salaah. Hence it is probably from Dr. Aboo Ameenah Bilaal Philips or the one who posted this video on YouTube, but since I didn't watch it all I'm not sure which of the two it is.

 

[junaid hasan]

jazakallah akhi for your information