The Splitting of the moon "historically"

rahman2040

rahman2040

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The Splitting of the moon "historically"
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During the Meccan era the infidels of Quraish asked the Prophet (peace be upon him) to show them a sign to prove the authenticity of his Prophethood, whereupon Allah split the moon into two halves. The Holy Qur’an mentioned that and recorded it in the Verse: “The hour drew nigh and the moon was rent in twain.” (Quran 54: 1)

If such an event had not occurred, the Muslims would have had suspicions about their religion and would have deserted it. The infidels would have said that Muhammad had told a lie for the moon had not split and that they had not seen any such thing. But what had happened increased the faith of the faithful, and the infidels were perplexed before the miracle that they could not interpret except as continuous magic. Allah (SWT) says: “The hour drew nigh and the moon was rent in twain. And if they behold a portent they turn away and say: prolonged[1] magic. They denied (the Truth) and followed their own lusts. Yet everything will come to a decision.” (Quran 54: 1)

Historical documentation of the splitting of the moon:

The Indian history has recorded the name of one of their kings, Chakrawati Farmas, who is claimed to have witnessed the event of the splitting of the moon. An Indian historical manuscript [The Indian manuscript is kept in the India Office Library, London, which has reference number: Arabic, 2807, 152-173. It is quoted in the book “Muhammad Rasulullah,” by M. Hamidullah (2)] reports that: “There is a very old tradition in Malabar, South-West Coast of India, that Chakrawati Farmas, one of their kings had observed the splitting of the moon, the celebrated miracle of the Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) at Mecca, and learning, on inquiry, that there was a prediction of the coming of a Messenger of God from Arabia, he appointed his son as regent and set out to meet him. He embraced Islam at the hand of the Prophet, and when returning home, at the direction of the Prophet, he died at the port of Zafar. This information is in an Indian manuscript kept in the “India Office Library”, which contains several other details about King Chakrawati Farmas.

The Indian king that visited the Prophet (peace be upon him) is mentioned in the Books of Hadith. In al-Hakim’s Mustadrak[3] it is reported that Abu Sa’id al-Khudri said: “Then the King of India gave Allah’s Messenger (peace be upon him) a gift, a bottle of pickle that had ginger in it. The Holy Prophet distributed it among his Companions. I also received a piece of it to eat.”

It is known that the king became a Companion through meeting the Messenger (peace be upon him) and believing in him and dying as such.

Islamic references preserve the story of this Companion, who came from India. Imam Ibn Hajar al-‘Asqalani has mentioned him in al-Isabah and in Lisan al-Mizan.[4] He says that his name was (Sirbanak), the name he is known by among the Arabs.

Notes:

1. “Prolonged” means strong and intensive overriding all kinds of sorcery, as al-Shawkani says. There are other interpretations also.

2. The Indian manuscript is kept in the India Office Library, London, which has reference number: Arabic, 2807, 152-173. It is quoted in the book “Muhammad Rasulullah,” by M. Hamidullah.

3. Mustadrak al-Hakim/ kitab al-‘At’imah, Vol. 4, p. 150.

4. Al-Iasabah, Vol. 3, p. 279; Lisan al-Mizan, vol. 3, p. 10.

May Allah be please with the researcher.
 
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abdul-aziz

Junior Member
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brother jazak Allahu khairan, but could you please not use infidels.

Muslims do not use this word.

The people of the time of the prophet, PBUH, who didn't accept Islam where Kuffar (people who understood the message of Islam and covered it up or ignored it), Mushrikeen (Polytheists), or Jahileen(people of ignorance).

None where termed as infidels. The crusaders used that word to slaughter people who accepted Islam and where Christian before in their journey to attack Jerusalem.

wa Allah ya'lam

:wasalam:
 
rahman2040

rahman2040

Junior Member
Assalam

Brother infidels mans
1. A person who does not acknowledge your god
2. Infidel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidel - CachedAn infidel (literally "one without faith")
is one who has no religious beliefs, or
who doubts or rejects the central tenets of a particular religion - especially in reference to Christianity or Islam.[1][2][3]

in·fi·del   [in-fi-dl, -del] Show IPA
noun
1.
Religion.
a.
a person who does not accept a particular faith, especially Christianity.
b.
(in Christian use) an unbeliever, especially a Muslim.
c.
(in Muslim use) a person who does not accept the Islamic faith; kaffir.
2.
a person who has no religious faith; unbeliever.
3.
(loosely) a person who disbelieves or doubts a particular theory, belief, creed, etc.; skeptic.

Any how thanks :jazaak:
 
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abdul-aziz

Junior Member
rahman2040 said:
Brother infidels mans
1. A person who does not acknowledge your god
2. Infidel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidel - CachedAn infidel (literally "one without faith")
is one who has no religious beliefs, or
who doubts or rejects the central tenets of a particular religion - especially in reference to Christianity or Islam.[1][2][3]

in·fi·del   [in-fi-dl, -del] Show IPA
noun
1.
Religion.
a.
a person who does not accept a particular faith, especially Christianity.
b.
(in Christian use) an unbeliever, especially a Muslim.
c.
(in Muslim use) a person who does not accept the Islamic faith; kaffir.
2.
a person who has no religious faith; unbeliever.
3.
(loosely) a person who disbelieves or doubts a particular theory, belief, creed, etc.; skeptic.

Any how thanks :jazaak:
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:salam2:

you could tell who wrote the Wikipedia article. No mention of Jews. Anyways I am telling you that there is no Arabic word for infidel. Nor was it used at the time of the prophet, PBUH.

The word is from french and Latin derivative. It was introduced to the world in the 1500's during the crusades by the crusaders. Unfortunately, some uneducated in Arabic tried coining the word Kaafir to it. This is not true.

The natural disposition of a person is of the fitra when they are born. They are muslim born, later on they are taught to be a Jew or a Christian. This information can be found in a hadith of rasool Allah, PBUH.

Here is Etymology Dictionary discription:
infidel
mid-15c. (adjective and noun), from M.Fr. infidèle, from L. infidelis "unfaithful, not to be trusted," later "unbelieving," from in- "not, opposite of" (see in- (1)) + fidelis "faithful" (see fidelity). In 15c. "a non-Christian" (especially a Saracen); later "one who does not believe in religion" (1520s). Also used to translate Arabic qafir, which is from a root meaning "to disbelieve, to deny," strictly referring to all non-Muslims but virtually synonymous with "Christian;" hence, from a Muslim or Jewish point of view, "a Christian" (1530s; see kaffir).


The reason why I make this an issue brother, I live among the Christians and when they see Muslims using this word, they say hah, they are trying to be like us. Go figure.

The other reason is there is a sense of retaliation with this word. And in the Quran Allah orders us by saying Let there be no compulsion in religion.

It is your choice to use what you want but when people see you using a 15th century word on something that happened in the 7th century they know you edited it with bias.


wa Allah ya'lam

:wasalam:
 
islamirama

islamirama

www.netmuslims.com
Real Muslims don't use "infidel" for non-Muslims. They use the word Kaffir (disbelievers) instead. Infidel is only heard from "al-qaeda" which is believed (by some) to be nothing more than bogey group created by CIA for the convenience of furthering western interests.

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The origin of infidel lies in Latin in (not) and fidelis “faithful,” the term originally denoting a non-Christian, especially a Muslim.

The word is defined with rather dry wit in the Oxford English Dictionary as “One who does not believe in (what the speaker holds to be) the true religion; an ‘unbeliever.’”

In its early stages it denoted “an adherent of a religion opposed to Christianity, especially a Mahommedan,” being so used in Sir Thomas Malory’s Morte d’Arthur (1485) in a reference to “two honderd sarasyns or infydels” (Curiously, saracen is actually the older term.)

It became common in the Middle Ages to denote these outsiders impersonally as “the infidel” or “the heathen,” used of both Muslims and Jews, as if these religions were of no validity, so that the Crusades were commonly styled “the war against the infidel or heathen.”

In the Canterbury Tales , Chaucer’s exemplary Knight had “foughten for oure faith” extensively against the “hethen” (ll. 62-66). Yet two of Chaucer’s most respectable pilgrims, the Man of Law and the Prioress, tell tales charged with religious animosity, the first against heathens and pagans, the second against “the cursed Jews.”

 Subsequently infidel was applied to followers of other religions in general. In William Tyndale’s translation of 2 Corinthians 6:15 (ca. 1526), the term has the stronger sense of a person of no religion, an atheist. In The Merchant of Venice (1596), a play dealing directly with anti-Semitic attitudes, Gratiano says in a tense moment of legal tussling to Shylock, “Now, infidel, I have thee on the hip” (IV i 344). However, in the same play the curious character Launcelot Gobbo, “clown and servant to Shylock,” says a poignant farewell to Jessica: “Most beautiful pagan, most sweet Jew!” (II iii 11). In the post-Renaissance period, both pagan and heathen started to be used in a more secular fashion. Shakespeare extended the sense of pagan to mean “a prostitute” ( Henry IV Part II , II ii 68) while Alexander Pope satirized the sexual promiscuity of a society lady styled Narcissa for being “a very heathen in the carnal part” (“Of the Characters of Women,” I, l.67).

With the general secularization of Western society and the consequent decline of religion as a social force, all these terms have declined in currency and potency in the West. However, with the rise of militant Muslim sects, such as Al Qaeda, infidel is being brought back into currency as a propagandist term against the West, especially America.
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