To every Christian : Do not object

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    In the Name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful

    In this subject I will collect some things in the christian faith which they object it in islam and they forget that it’s also in their religion

    I've read the Arabic thread of it and this is translated by my Egyption friend ( May Allah reward her )

    I hope it reach the largest number of our Christian friends ^

    Here we go :
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    1- The tribute - poll tax

    Do not object about the poll tax because your Bible tells you to pay, and even consider it the right of our rights


    Romans 13 - New International Version

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans 13&version=NIV

    7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

    Moses also took the tribute (tax) as stated in the book of II Chronicles

    Chronicles(2: 24 )New International Version

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2 Chronicles 24&version=NIV

    9 A proclamation was then issued in Judah and Jerusalem that they should bring to the LORD the tax that Moses the servant of God had required of Israel in the desert
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    2- Polygamy


    Do not object on the multiple wives of our prophet muhammad (peace be upon him ) because according to your Bible that you believes in it "Solomon the Wise" who is a prophet and a writer of some sanitation of the bible had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines




    Kings 1: 11) New International Version)



    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Kings 11&version=NIV


    3 He had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray



    David had 29 wives and 40 concubines as mentioned in the bible
    (1Sa18:20 ), (Sa 25:42-43), (2Sa 3:2 -5), (2Sa 11:26-27) , (2Sa 5:12-13)


    Jacob had three wives and one made


    Rehoboam had 18 wives and 60 concubines
    Chronicles 2 : 11) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2 Chronicles 11&version=NIV

    21 Rehoboam loved Maacah daughter of Absalom more than any of his other wives and concubines. In all, he had eighteen wives and sixty concubines, twenty-eight sons and sixty daughters.


    Abraham had three wives and ten concubines and maybe more

    Moses had two wives



    So do not object
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    3- The spoils of war - the plunder of war

    Do not object on islam which allows the spoils of war ( the plunder of war ) because according to your bible that you believe in it’s allowed too


    Deuteronomy 20) New International Version)

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 20&version=NIV


    14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies.


    So do not object !
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    4- The Concubines


    Do not object on islam which allows the concubines because according to your Bible it’s allowed too


    Deuteronomy 20) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 20&version=NIV


    14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies.


    Kings 1:11) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Kings 11&version=NIV


    3 He had seven hundred wives of royal birth and three hundred concubines, and his wives led him astray.


    Samuel 2: 5) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2 Samuel 5&version=NIV


    13 After he left Hebron, David took more concubines and wives in Jerusalem, and more sons and daughters were born to him.
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    5- God guides whom He wills and leads astray whom He will


    Do not object on islam that god guides whom He wills and leads astray whom He will because god according to your bible that you believe in it
    also do that


    Psalm 146) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm 146&version=NIV


    9 The LORD watches over the alien
    and sustains the fatherless and the widow,
    but he frustrates the ways of the wicked



    Isaiah 63) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah 63&version=NIV


    17 Why, O LORD, do you make us wander from your ways
    and harden our hearts so we do not revere you?
    Return for the sake of your servants
    ,
    the tribes that are your inheritance.


    Ezekiel 14) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel 14&version=NIV


    9 " 'And if the prophet is enticed to utter a prophecy, I the LORD have enticed that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand against him and destroy him from among my people Israel
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    6- one of the attributes of god is the avenger


    Do not object on Muslims because they say that one of the attributes of God is the avenger because according to your Bible god is also described the same


    Psalm 99) New American Standard Bible)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm 99&version=NASB


    8O LORD our God, You (T)answered them;
    You were a (U)forgiving God to them,
    And yet an (V)avenger of their evil
    deeds


    Nahum 1) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Nahum 1&version=NIV


    2 The LORD is a jealous and avenging God;
    the LORD takes vengeance and is filled with wrath


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    Thessalonians1 : 4) New American Standard Bible)

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Thessalonians 4&version=NASB


    6and that no man transgress and (L)defraud his brother (M)in the matter because (N)the Lord is the avenger in all these things, just as we also (O)told you before and solemnly warned you .
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    7- The punishment for Apostasy

    Do not object on muslims if they apply the punishment for apostasy for the ones who leaves islam because according to your bible it’s applied too



    Deuteronomy 13) New International Version)

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 13&version=NIV


    6 If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying, "Let us go and worship other gods
    " (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, 7 gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other), 8 do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. 9 You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people. 10 Stone him to death,

    Hosea 13) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hosea 13&version=NIV


    16 The people of Samaria must bear their guilt,
    because they have rebelled against their God.
    They will fall by the sword;
    their little ones will be dashed to the ground,
    their pregnant women ripped open."

    Luke 19) New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke 19&version=NIV


    27But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me."


    Do not forget that in islam they must be sure and check before they apply the limit but in the bible they kill directly without checking

    So Do not object
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    8- one of the attributes of god is the pride) al mutakaber )


    Do not object on Muslims because they say that one of the attributes of God is the pride because according to your Bible , god is also described the same


    Isaiah 25) New American Standard Bible)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah 25&version=NASB


    10For the hand of the LORD will rest on this mountain,
    And (W)Moab will be trodden down in his place
    As straw is trodden down in the water of a manure pile.
    11And he will (X)spread out his hands in the middle of it
    As a swimmer spreads out his hands to swim,
    But the Lord will (Y)lay low his pride together with the trickery of his hands.
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    To be continued

    I'll stop here and then Insha'a Allah I'll complete , in order to give you time to read :)

    May Allah guide us to the right path ..
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    9- our lord is a thankful god

    Do not object on Muslims because they say that our god is thankful god because according to your Bible , god is also described the same



    Job 40) Amplified Bible)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job 40&version=AMP


    14[If you can do all this, Job, proving yourself of divine might] then will I [God] praise you also [and

    acknowledge that] your own right hand can save you
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    10 – God swears in some quranic verse


    Do not object if god swears in some quranic verse because according to your bible god also swear


    Numbers 32) New American Standard Bible)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers 32&version=NASB


    10"So (H)the LORD'S anger burned in that day, and He swore, saying,
    11'(I)None of the men who came up from Egypt, from twenty years old and upward, shall see the land which I swore to Abraham, to Isaac and to Jacob; for they did not follow Me fully,​
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    - god plot and plan



    do not object if Muslim's faith that God is the best of planners plotted for believers to defend them and deceives his enemies to spoil their plans because God in the bible did the same



    Jeremiah 50 )New International Version)



    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah 50&version=NIV



    24 I set a trap for you, O Babylon,
    and you were caught before you knew it;
    you were found and captured
    because you opposed the LORD


    Ezekiel 12)New International Version)

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezekiel 12&version=NIV



    13 I will spread my net for him, and he will be caught in my snare; I will bring him to Babylonia, the land of the Chaldeans, but he will not see it, and there he will die.


    Jeremiah 48 )New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah 48&version=NIV


    43 Terror and pit and snare await you,
    O people of Moab,"
    declares the LORD.
    44 "Whoever flees from the terror
    will fall into a pit,
    whoever climbs out of the pit
    will be caught in a snare;
    for I will bring upon Moab
    the year of her punishment,"
    declares the LORD.

    Psalm 33 (New International Version)



    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm 33&version=NIV


    10 The LORD foils the plans of the nations;
    he thwarts the purposes of the peoples.
    11 But the plans of the LORD stand firm forever,
    the purposes of his heart through all generations.
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    I'm still in the begenning ^_^

    But it's very important to read especially by Christians :)
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    13- Punishment of the thief


    Do not object if the punishment of the thief in islam is to cut off his hand because in your book the same punishment is given for a women who defend her husband



    Deuteronomy 25 )New International Version)



    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 25&version=NIV



    11 If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, 12 you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity.
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    -14 the veil


    Do not object if orders women to wear the veil because according to bible it’s also commanded for women




    Corinthians1 (11:5


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Corinthians 11&version=NIV



    5And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is just as though her head were shaved. 6If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. 7A man ought not to cover his head, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.


    Timothy1 (2:9-10


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1 Timothy 2&version=NIV



    "I also want women to dress modestly, with decency and propriety, not with braided hair or gold or pearls or expensive clothes, but with good deeds, appropriate for women who profess to worship God
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    -15 God is the Humiliator

    The Humiliator means the one who degrades and abases.


    Do not object if muslims said that God is the humiliator because according to bible God is a humiliator



    Daniel 4 )Amplified Bible)

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel 4&version=AMP

    37Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and extol and honor the King of heaven, Whose works are all faithful and right and Whose ways are just. And those who walk in pride He is able to abase and humble.
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    16 – The stoning punishment for adultery

    Do not object on Muslims if they apply the stoning punishment for married adulterers because according to your bible it was also applied

    Deuteronomy 22)New International Version)

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy 22&version=NIV



    21 she shall be brought to the door of her father's house and there the men of her town shall stone her to death


    Leviticus 20 )New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus 20&version=NIV


    27 " 'A man or woman who is a medium or spiritist among you must be put to death. You are to stone them; their blood will be on their own heads
    .' "

    Leviticus 24 )New International Version)


    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Leviticus 24&version=NIV

    16 anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Whether an alien or native-born, when he blasphemes the Name, he must be put to death

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