To the non-Muslims

h--n

Yes! I love Allah!
AS per the criticism, I have decided to write this thread, to answer you incorrect opinions of Islam. Please read in full if you have any questions ON the points below. Of course anyone is invited on this thread, and hopefully its acceptable to the Muslims too.


Kindness

1. Non-Muslim are interested in people being kind to them, that is why they do idol worship, even the Jews are talking about sitting their emphasis on family, and ignoring Hell.

If you had a friend and she smelled, some people don’t want to tell her, because it would not only hurt her feelings, but cause a rift in the relationship-this is exactly why Christians and Jews etc, don’t talk of people going to Hell

-Prophet Lut peace be upon him told people to repent if they do not they will go to Hell
-Prophet Ibrahim peace be upon him told people to repent if they do not they will go to Hell
-Prophet Moses peace be upon him told people to repent if they do not they will go to Hell

We are not going to ask people to be nice to the Muslims at the expense of them going to Hell! This is why we are telling them if you don’t repent you will go to Hell. Even the Prophets had put up with so much abuse, but they asked people to repent. They even told people we are not asking for any payment etc, our reward is with Allah alone.

Even if US.UK etc withdrew from all the Muslim countries and said we were never going to attack you again, they will still be destroyed by Allah-because you are not repenting, worshipping him. None of the Prophets said its OK for you to be nice to each other, and if you don’t worship Allah and repent to him, that is OK and you will go to Paradise.

None of the Prophets taught people to be kind to each other first, and then mention worshipping Allah and remembering the Day of Judgement after. They asked people to repent on the first day!


Not treating non-Muslims like if they are stupid

2. I am not going to treat non-Muslims if the are stupid. I have explained it so many times, and I don’t think some people understand. People like to show off and try to be somebody in this world. But you are already in a position with Allah-he has created you and you will be brought forward on the Day of Judgement. So if your good enough to be judged by Allah personally, why should I treat you like if you are stupid??

Even the Prophets came and told people to repent the first day. That is because everyone knows that Allah exists. They reject the truth, and even when the people at the time of Prophet Noah peace be upon him were arrogant and they were destroyed by Allah by the flood.

Allah is never going to send a person to Hell if it was not there fault that they were not warned. The people who said there is no God in this world, will absolutely say they lied on the Day of Judgement. You will see their faces-Karl Marx, others and even Dawkins if he has not repented-all of them will say they already knew. What they are doing is the same as people at the time of Prophet Noah peace be upon him-they also rejected Allah’s existence not because they didn’t believe, but because they were trying to separate themselves from having to do the right thing and repent to Allah and be grateful for what he has provided.

People who say there is no Allah, is nothing new today. Its like when a person says, I’m not part of those group of people, they say that so they won’t get attacked by so and so. Even Muslims have left Islam so they won’t be attacked, for being a Muslim-which shows they are sinful people. Even the magicians at Pharoah’s court were willing to have their hands and feet chopped off, they rather suffer in this world rather then the torment of the fire.

They dare be afraid of mere people rather then their Lord? Who is worthy enough to be feared only.


My threads.

3. I don’t believe at all that my threads are a problem. If somebody else wrote;-

-If Prophet Muhammad or Jesus peace be upon them came to Saudi Arabia,
-Why Prophet Jesus peace be upon him does not like the Muslims,
- Peace, peace say the Muslims (but I say they are liars)

We Muslims would not be offended!

We are only offended if you insult Allah, the Prophets, Prophet Jesus peace be upon him’s Mother.

We are not insulted if you say that we are going to go to Hell!

Actually we would take the time to read what that person has written and then reply. Muslims even are critical of Muslims Scholars if they say or write the wrong thing. In the west they don’t report this, but the many people who have been critical of Islam, the Muslims did spend time finding out what that person has said, written etc, before being critical.

Then go ahead and write why you think we are wrong in Islam for worshipping Allah and remembering the Day of Judgement. No Muslim is going to say the thread should be closed, they will explain why we don’t believe that.

My intentions

4. I have NOT, and will NOT ask any Muslims to go and hurt non-Muslim or go and break anything. People are being tested and Allah will destroy them. As I already explained my self on the “Collapse of these countries” and the “Major signs of the Day of Judgement”. Those are really the only two threads that people can read to know of my intentions. I want the Muslims to be strong in Islam to face the Major signs of the Day of Judgement and of course not go into the fires of Hell.

I do not like non-Muslims wasting people’s time, I’ve even said to them, is this how you are going to spend the next couple of weeks, months etc? Just going on a website to attack Islam without learning about it? They are wasting their time to save themselves from hell. Not just my opinion, but on Ummah, people were in agreement that there was only 1 non-Muslim who was genuine about learning about Islam!

Me and other Muslims

5. People can’t just say that Muslims will accept my threads because of course I’m a Muslim. I even got banned temporarily on Ummah. That is because I did create a thread and basically had a go at some Muslims who were rejecting the signs of the Day of Judgement. I asked if that ban can be removed, but they said no, not until July.

The Mahdi (leader of the Muslims) before the Prophet, will be also looking at the Muslims, and sorting things out. So I’m concentrating on the Muslims. I am not offending people personally, if they support evil, then I will say they are wrong, they like to quote you have to get along with people’s beliefs. No this is evil rubbish. The Prophet Ibrahim peace be upon him did not respect other people’s idol worship etc.

Its not about being an agreement with me, I am a Muslim, accepting the message of Allah, reject the message of Islam is not just my personal belief that you are attacking, but rejecting what Allah has taught you through all the Prophets Lut, Jesus, Muhammad, Noah, Ibrahim, Moses peace be upon them. Even written a bit about accepting evil in another thread “Freedom and evil acceptance”. There is not such thing as accepting and respecting sins. Why should we respect something that would lead us to the fire??? We tolerate sinful people, there is a difference. Its like when females were indecent clothing, I don’t like it, but I tolerate it, I certainly don’t respect them. Allah will destroy the evil doers.
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
wa alaykum salam

perhaps your intentions are sound, but your way of writing comes across as uneccessarily hardlined.

Also, there is not one ayah or hadith in your writing, nor any scholarly support for what you say.

Allah the Most High said,

"Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance."
[An-Nahl: The Bee: 125]

One of the worst of the disbelievers, was the Pharoah. None of the evil leaders today can compare to the evil of Pharoah who disobeyed Allah even in the face of the Prophets that were before him, and the miracles that they did.

Allah, subhana wa taála, said to Musa:

[FONT=Verdana,Arial,Helvetica]"Go both of you, to Fir'aun (Pharaoh). Verily he has transgressed. And speak to him mildly, perhaps he may accept admonition or fear Allah." (Qur'an 20:43-44)[/FONT]

We speak and we teach people in a good way. I am not really sure, why you feel the need to be speaking so much from an attacking angle.


Me and other Muslims

5. People can’t just say that Muslims will accept my threads because of course I’m a Muslim. I even got banned temporarily on Ummah. That is because I did create a thread and basically had a go at some Muslims who were rejecting the signs of the Day of Judgement. I asked if that ban can be removed, but they said no, not until July.


i am sorry to say, that you seem a little bit hyper. Writing a thread and titling it "you're going to hell" is not something that Islam teaches. It is not permissible for you to say someone is going to hell, as it is only the knowledge Allah the most High has. Also, again, it is not sensible the way that you write. It is not the way the early Muslims talked about Islam.

-- rather, you are coming from an innovative, reactionary methodology which is not how Muslims should be. You may feel you are doing something good for Allah, whilst it is the opposite. We should be careful in how we talk and behave.

Anas (may Allah be pleased with him) reported: A young Jewish boy used to serve the Prophet (peace be upon him) and he became sick. So the Prophet (peace be upon him) went to visit him. He sat near his head and asked him to embrace Islam. The boy looked at his father, who was sitting there; the latter told him to obey Abu-l-Qasim and the boy embraced Islam. The Prophet (peace be upon him) came out saying: "Praises be to Allah Who saved the boy from the Hell-fire." Narrated by Bukhari.

'Aisha (may Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Messenger :)saw:) died while his (iron) armor was mortgaged to a Jew for thirty Sas of barley. Agreed upon.

Sahl Bin Hunaif (may Allah be pleased with him) reported: A funeral procession passed in front of the Prophet and he stood up. When he was told that it was the coffin of a Jew, he said, "Is it not a soul (living being)? Narrated by Bukhari.​

Allah said in the Qur'an, about the Prophet Muhammad :saw: :

"…And had you been severe and harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about you…" (Qur’an 3:159)

So, this is just a few of the great evidences that we should be soft, patient, and kind in our nature. We must try to tak to people with wisdom. Remember, that Allah made us Muslims, its a gift from Allah.

The Islam in our hearts, is not from our own doing, its a blessing from Allah. Guidance is something we ask Allah for, sincerely. - Allah is the turner of the hearts. There is a famous hadith about a man who was a righteous believer and devout in prayer, but at the last moment he was a person of the hellfire, and a person whose path was leading him to the hellfire, but at the last moment he did the good that requireed him to be a person of paradise.

We should remain humble and we should call people to worshipping Allah the Most High. Of course, we do not

You would be much more effective if you wrote coherently, with a focus, inshaAllah, thank you.
 

neox297

Junior Member
Sister,

I’ve been on jamat a couple times, and Jamat always starts with everybody meeting and coming to a consensus of the schedule and the daily activities.

There is a lot of blessing in insha Allah to keeping your mind open to others opinions and there seems to be a general consensus that your methodology of delivering this message is simply crazy. Maybe you should consider that we are all not stupid and we actually are making a valid point here.

There has to be a balance of Love and Fear.

Love Allah and fear him, your disregard for acknowledging the LOVE Allah has for us is what’s repelling everyone.

Your method is not working. Period. So discard it.
 

besmiralalbani

Think for yourself
Salam alaykum

Praise be to Allah,

I wanted to give a sincere advice.
The tongue (in this case, what we write) should be used only for good words and goodness.
Allah says in the Qur'an(interpretation of the meaning):
"And follow not (O man i.e., say not, or do not or witness not, etc.) that of which you have no knowledge (e.g. one's saying: "I have seen," while in fact he has not seen, or "I have heard," while he has not heard). Verily! The hearing, and the sight, and the heart, of each of those you will be questioned (by Allah)." (Al-Israa 17: 36)

Islam aims to form a well knit society, in which individuals show mutual mercy and love and exemplify the Sunnah of the Messenger of Allah «peace be upon him» by ordering them to do certain things and to abstain from other things.

“The Believers in their love, mercy and feelings for each other are like one body: if one part feels pain, all the other parts feel pain by fever and sleeplessness.” (Bukhari #5665 & Muslim #2586)



"...Help you one another in Al-Birr and At-Taqwa (virtue, righteousness and piety); but do not help one another in sin and transgression. And fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Severe in punishment." (Al-Maaida 5: 2)


So we are here to help one another in Islam for Allah's sake. And we should be united.
The Prophet said:
“Be aware and stay away from extremism in religion, for indeed the only thing which destroyed those before you was extremism in Religion.” (Nasa'íe #3039 & ibn Maajah #3057 )

It orders people to help relieve worries of Muslims, to give them respite [in paying back debts] and to conceal their faults. The Prophet said:

“Whoever relieves some worry of a believer, Allah will relieve a worry of his on the Day of Requital. Whoever makes things easy for one in times of hardship [by giving respite to one who is not able to pay back a debt] Allah will make things easy upon him in this life and the next. And whoever conceals the faults of a Muslim, Allah will conceal his faults in this life and in the Hereafter. Allah helps his slave as long as he helps his brother.” (Muslim #2699)

It commands mercy and it forbids cold-heartedness. The Prophet said:
“Allah shows mercy to those who show mercy. Show mercy to those on earth, and Allah will be merciful to you.” (Abu Dawood #4941 & Tirmidhi #1924)

It commands people to be kind and lenient to each other, and it forbids harshness. The Prophet said:
“Nothing is done with kindness except that it is beautified, and nothing is devoid of kindness except that it is flawed.” (Muslim #2594)

Al Hafiz ibn Hajr (rahimehullah) said: The tongue can speak badly for the dead persons, for those that are alive and for those who will come, unlike the hand. The hand to can commit a sin when it writes bad things for the others and in this case the hand is making something not good to the other Muslims, and the harm of the hand is bigger.
This is what the poet wanted to express in this verses:
I wrote with great confidence that day about what I wrote
Because my hand one day will be dissolved, but my writing won't be extinguished
If I had done good I would be rewarded with the best reward
And the instead, I am the one that will suffer the consequences with punishment.
 
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