Serious Tunisia election (Secularism and Islamism)??

zaman-gm

Junior Member
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...sult-secularism-islamism-nidaa-tounes-ennahda

Assalamu Alikum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuh.

THis is serious because both of this word (Secularism and Islamism) is wrong!
Islam is not something like ISM. Islam is complete code for everything. But secularism is a ism where junk brain people wants to deny their creators order. Even eventually deny beliefs in Allah swt.

What is secularism?
According to wiki "Secularism is the principle of the separation of government institutions and persons mandated to represent the state from religious institutions and religious dignitaries."
looks very nice definition that will benevolent for the mankind!!!

If we go a little more detail what is secularism saying: "Governing body should not faith on any religious beliefs" and this is the serious part. Is it possible??!! It's simply refers the Atheism where there is no religious beliefs. It is clear like as white and black & day and night. No believer can beliefs in secularism. Your everyday life is covered with religious directions from Wake up and go back to sleep so how could you think something like secular way?? I don't want to say about other religion of this day but Islam doesn't permit it at all.

May Allah swt Guide us. Forgive us. Keep us in the straight path of Sirat-e-Mustaqim. Save this Ummah from conspiracy of evil. Ameen.
 
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karbala

Junior Member
As long as there is not a competent leadership in front of a nation, they will never gain victory against conspiracy of evil. :12-angryredarms:
 

MehmetHilmi

Junior Member
Well Tunisia wanted democracy and they got it. This election just shows the will of the people and no one has a right to criticize them. Just as no one has a right to criticize Islamist governments that gain power legitimately (ex. Muslim Brotherhood).

As long as there is justice in the country and religious institutions are not harmed, it should be ok.
 

zaman-gm

Junior Member
Well Tunisia wanted democracy and they got it.
They wanted democracy but not secular society or state!!! They can't deserve it!!

As long as there is justice in the country and religious institutions are not harmed, it should be ok.
To days democracy is complex by itself and more over in case of Tunisia they emphasis on secularism. And this is there result what they looking for!!! It is true that Muslim nation are not showing good governance for there people but they cant accept the secular society or secular states!! A Muslim should not accept a secular tendency for there leaders failure.

And this line (religious institutions are not harmed) will make this Ummah coward and useless. Astagfirullah.
 

MehmetHilmi

Junior Member
But what should they do? Remove the secular leader in a coup? It's better to keep status quo sometimes.

Look at Turkey. It has been under the rule of a Muslim ruling party for more than ten years. But for about 90 years, extreme secular anti religious parties ruled. It was much worse than Tunisia. It's success now is only due to a better democracy that enabled more public voice to be heard.
 

MehmetHilmi

Junior Member
Becoming America's handyman isn't a success.

Tsk tsk tsk. I guess you can't tell the difference between cooperation and slavery. Such accusations are completely false. Is this all you can say about our government? The same government that built roads to distant villages, opened up negotiations with Kurds, allowed freedom of religion, apologized for historical Turkish failures and massacres, gave women more rights to wear whatever they wanted, reintroduced Islam into the political scene, and etc. We are definitely not anyone's handyman.

The new Turkey is not like the old kemalist Turkey. We don't bend to western pressure anymore.
 
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