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Saudi Arabia: Beheadings for ‘witchcraft’
Published: 19 April, 2012, 12:38
Edited: 19 April, 2012, 12:38



A Sri Lankan woman is currently facing decapitation by sword on a witchcraft charge in Saudi Arabia, in accordance with Wahhabism, a strict form of Sunni Islam.

The UN reports executions tripled in the kingdom in 2011.


A Saudi man complained that in a shopping mall his 13-year-old daughter “suddenly started acting in an abnormal way, which happened after she came close to the Sri Lankan woman,” reports the daily Okaz.


After the local man denounced the Sri Lankan for casting a spell on his daughter, police in the port city of Jeddah found it sufficient cause to arrest the woman.
Witchcraft and sorcery imply only one measure in Saudi Arabia – beheading. And it works this way in practice: last year in the kingdom at least two people – a woman in her 60s and a Sudanese man – were beheaded on witchcraft charges.


In the absolute monarchy that Saudi Arabia is, a criminal code does not exist per se. Court sentences are based on Islamic Sharia law on the interpretation of judges.
No sticking your neck out under Sharia law


Capital punishment is applied regularly and indiscriminately to locals and foreign citizens.


According to Sharia law, crimes that imply capital punishment are numerous. It could be anything from murder and terrorism to apostasy, idolatry and blasphemy.


Still, Sharia law leaves a loophole for those who have money. In the case of murder, the “eye for an eye” principle of Islamic law allows capital punishment to be replaced with Diyya (“Blood money”) ransom paid by the family of the killer – if the bereaved family agrees.


In oil-rich Saudi Arabia, the number of wealthy citizens is off the chart and the sum of Diyya could reach millions of dollars. But for those millions of guest workers who do most of the work in Saudi Arabia, this is definitely not an option. In case they are found guilty of a capital crime, execution by beheading is the only option left to them under Sharia law.


The beheading of Indonesian national Ruyati binti Sapubi in 2011 sparked a widely-discussed scandal. The 54-year-old woman, who worked as a maid, was sentenced to death after she confessed of murdering her employer with a kitchen knife after suffering abuse.


With about 1.5 million Indonesians working in Saudi Arabia, many of them as maids, the ruling caused an outcry in Indonesia, which even considered banning its women from working in the kingdom. After the Saudi Arabian ambassador officially apologized for the incident, the initiative was left in oblivion.


The cases of mistreatment of maids, who came in waves to Saudi Arabia in the recent past, received a different attitude of national justice. In April 2011, a Saudi woman convicted of torturing her Indonesian maid successfully had her conviction quashed on appeal.


In January 2012 the United Nations human rights office expressed concern with increased number of executions in Saudi Arabia. Compared to 2010 when 26 people got capital punishment rulings for various crimes, in 2011 there have been 76 executions in the kingdom.


Among the beheaded were at least three women and 11 foreigners.

http://rt.com/news/saudi-arabia-sharia-beheading-435/
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[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

First this is from a Russian source..they still butcher Muslims.

Secondly, it is incomplete. We have no transcripts..no facts.

Third, who are they to question Sharia.

 

[Aisya al-Humaira]

Assalamu'alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakaatuh,

Such incidents aren't new. It have happened before. Foreign maids being tortured, mistreated and brought to court. It happens everywhere. Happened here before but I can assure you the cases are worst in the Middle East countries.

The main roots of the problem. As to why they are torturing their maids; why are they oppressing the weaker are yet to be investigated. This is something that comes from within. Of course this has nothing to do with Islaam but the people who are doing it; lives in a Muslim country. And certainly I am sure out there, among them somewhere, there are very kind Muslims who treat their maid like family members; because I for one have come across such family.

Allaahu a'laam. May Allaah protects the oppressed.

 

[a_stranger]

:salam2:

If we study Sharia we find an absolute justice for all humanity, a perfect system of laws that protect rights of all creatures. I am not defending Saudi Arabia or any kind of killing and I don't say they are angels or perfect muslems . There are many mistakes and faults not because of Sharia but because of human deficiency . Many people are trying to attack Sharia and make it look as barbaric while all the suffering in our world today can be ended by rulings of Sharia. Islam is a mercy to human kinds : rules, ethics, laws, Ibadah , .............way of life.

Saudi Arabia is among the safest ,peaceful places in the world because of remaining traces of Sharia. I pray that all muslem countries return to the pure noble complete Sharia.

With regards

 

[John Smith]

:salam2:

Its a real shame that the same punishment is not carried out in pakistan where Black Magic, Wichcraft, Taweez & all other form of shirk are committed.

Anyone who questions the legality of Sharia and the recommended punishments for such crimes need to give their heads a wobble.

 

[sister herb]

:salam2:

I see that people in Pakistan are more civilized if they don´t execute people by kind of reasons - as in article says - specially when accused person is not rich but foreign and maid.

 

[Salem9022]

:salam2:

I see that people in Pakistan are more civilized if they don´t execute people by kind of reasons - as in article says - specially when accused person is not rich but foreign and maid.

More civilized in Pakistan? their are literally graves of "holy men" being worshiped in Pakistan in the open. If you go to cities like Multan the whole city is dedicated to witchcraft and saint worship.

I don't think you understand what it means to be on the path of Tawheed and the Sunnah if you can't differentiate between the worship of creator and the worship of Men(I.e. graves, talisman, lucky coins and bracelets etc.). There is now even a evil eye that people make that supposedly will protect you from harm, these are supposedly Muslims doing this.

But Alhumdulilah we are seeing at least Saudi Arabia carrying this punishment out to these sorts of Backward people. I wish that the same was applied in all Muslim countries so we wouldn't have so much superstitions and deviant cults springing up.

 

[Aapa]

Asalaam walaikum,


We can not question Sharia. I am sorry but I can not question that which comes from Allah.


Now...I do question the story and cannot write on it except that it is very sketchy.

 

[sister herb]

:salam2:

Yes yes great. It is ok to execute people when others believe they are witch. How to prove it that they are, is other thing of course.

This is not fault of sharia but how to use it:

Still, Sharia law leaves a loophole for those who have money.

And sorry if I was wrong when I wrote that of my mind Pakistanis are civilized people.

 

[Aapa]

Asslaam walaikum,

Usually those who practice witchcraft do admit to it. I do not know why but they almost take pride in it.

 

[sister herb]

Asslaam walaikum,

Usually those who practice witchcraft do admit to it. I do not know why but they almost take pride in it.

:salam2:

Or they admit it after torturing during investigation.

Who knows.

 

[a_stranger]

:salam2:

Dear sister harbi

According to sharia The Accused is Innocent until Proven Guilty - The Presumption of Innocence exists in a Shariah court where the defendant is innocent until proven guilty. The responsibility of providing the evidence is on the plaintiff (the one who initiates the lawsuit) and not the defendant. The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said:

"It is the plaintiff who should provide the evidence, and the oath is obliged on the one that contests."

Avoiding Punishment in the Case of Doubt - One of the principles of the Islamic Judicial System is that it is better to release a guilty person than to punish an innocent person. The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said:

"Avert the hudud from Muslims as much as you can. So if there is a way out for him, let him off. For verily, it is better for the Imam to error in pardon than to error in punishment." [Al-Bayhaqi]


Ultimately there is no escape from justice. If a guilty person avoids punishment in this world, he or she will answer before Allah سبحانه وتعالى on the Day of Judgment. However, a court that implements the Hukm of Allah سبحانه وتعالى will spare him or her of punishment at the slightest doubt of his or her guilt.



"If two men come to you do not give a judgment for one of them until you have heard what the other has had to say, then you will be able to judge." [Tirmidhi & Ahmad]

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[sister herb]

:salam2:

This is how justice goes by sharia, right? Other thing is how people use sharia - and those high islamic values in practice.

If everything is ok for example in Saudi Arabia, I then wonder why international human right organizations are so worry about torturing during investigations in there. They claim that investigators beat prisoners until they confess what ever they have claimed to do.

That is not ok in islam, right?

 

[a_stranger]

Sure killing , torture, hurting even an ant is haram in islam.

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

Sister,

I was not discussing torture. In the world of those who practice the arts of witchcraft they are proud of what they do. It is real sister. It is very real. Do we not pray each day to be protected from those who practice the art of blowing on knots?

Simply based upon the details of the article all we can do is speculate. And we do not wish to do that. The information presented is weak.

As for the international human rights organizations that is the pot calling out the kettle. The US has a history of being one of the worst offenders of human rights. The record speaks for itself.

The representatives of many human rights organizations are hypocrites. They are the kufr. They change with the wind. We do not know the details of what happened.

 

[sister herb]

:salam2:

I know how many muslims are thinking about human right organizations like Amnesty International (which member I have been over 30 years) or Human Right Watch: they are good when criticize Israel for example but they should keep hands off from our backyards, please.

I just told you why so many confess they are witch. Torturing might be one reason for it. Thats all.

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

Yes, confession under torture does not make it real. However, that entire world of magic and potions is very very real.

I may be in the minority but I really don't care what the kufr think or their organizations. If they could think they would be Muslims. How can you say you understand the value of human life if you do not understand your personal relationship with Allah. The practice of faith keeps the mind alive.

Do post more details when they come out, please.

 

[sister herb]

:salam2:

Those kufr (kaafirs) by they organizations have created for example some basic international laws like Geneve Conventions. Do even kufr nations follow them is other thing again. At the same time most of so called islamic countries have been under rule of greedy leaders whose haven´t cared at all about islamic values in they countries or judicial systems.

Also Saudi Arabia use torturing and execute people by confessions got by torturing. I am sad that kufrs have to tell this to muslims whose should keep they own backyard clean.

I care a lot what independent human right organizations have found out about totalitary rules "islamic" countries.

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

The Geneva Convention was just that a convention. No-one follows it. It is a joke.

What I find is that Islamic countries do not point fingers at the duplicity of the kufr. And Believers know that their world is unstable. They say one thing and do another in the same moment. That is one of the characteristics. We can not believe what they say. How can we when they are so arrogant in the display of disbelieve.

Back to the topic. We are merely readers of an incident that occurred in the KSA. This is a very sketchy article with no details. How can we make any comments when we do not know all the circumstances. We can not point fingers without knowledge.

Musa argued about the unfairness of killing the youth.

 

[sister herb]

:salam2:

Dear Aapa; this has allways been excelent reason to be quiet:

How can we make any comments when we do not know all the circumstances

How simple persons could get to know all circumstances if not working with international organization like Amnesty International whose has thousands of specialists - muslims once too.

I don´t see Geneva Conventions are against principles of Islam at all. Or are them?