Oh subhanaAllaah, did you know this?

IbnAhmad

Junior Member
the point here is only making it while raising your hands after Salah. There is no evidence that suggest this was done by the Prophet sallallahu `alayhi wa sallam after the Salah.

Brother, this is not true as it does not necessarily make it a Bida'h. Please read the post above. JazakAllahu Khair. :)
 

Abu Talib

Feeling low
Brother, this is not true as it does not necessarily make it a Bida'h. Please read the post above. JazakAllahu Khair. :)

What do you call anything you do in Islam which was not done by our Prophet Mohammed (Peace and blessing be upon him)??

Is there small or big bidah also?
 

IbnAhmad

Junior Member
You can make Dua whenever you want. It is Bidah to specify the unspecified. So like we see in many Masajid they raise their hands after every Salaah and it has become 'part' of the Salaah. This is Bidah.

And Allah SWT knows best.
 

Seeking Allah's Mercy

Qul HuwaAllahu Ahud!
I think this is somewhat ridiculous!

It may be that the Prophet SAWs did not raise his hands while making dua after salaah. (I do not know, I have insufficient knowledge of this).

However, I do not see how something that is NOT against the principles of sharia and NOT considered to be obligatory is bi'dah. If it was seen an obligatory to raise ones hands after salah to make dua then that could be considered bi'dah.

May Allah forgive me and guide me if I am incorrect in my understanding.


:salam2:wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu...

sister sharia means Quran and sunnah.so if something is missing in sunnah(the practical form of Quran)then it is ADDED to the deen and so it is Bida'h,an innovation.So if the prophet:saw: of ALLAH did not raise his hands on regular basis after a prayer then doing it regularly and making it compulsory act is Bida'h:)

hope you understood inshallah.
 

Seeking Allah's Mercy

Qul HuwaAllahu Ahud!
no, its not bidah.



many scholars like Sh. Assim Al Hakim says not to make a regular habit. do it sometimes and avoid it sometimes.



same as above



yes, you are right.

That does not mean we cannot supplicate, as I said earlier. Only that we should not raise hands when making Du'a after Fard Salah as we are not to add anything which is not in Sunnah. We can do it after Nawaafils according to 'Ulama, and in other circumstances too.


wassalam 'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

:salam2:wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu...
but the fatwa in akhi abu talib's post(jazakallah khairan for the fatwa akhi)mentions not to do it regularly even after nawafil so howcome you saying it's alright to raise hands on completion of salah.......am i missing something??
 

Abu Talib

Feeling low
:salam2:wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu...
but the fatwa in akhi abu talib's post(jazakallah khairan for the fatwa akhi)mentions not to do it regularly even after nawafil so howcome you saying it's alright to raise hands on completion of salah.......am i missing something??

Yes the fatwa stated is true. But yes Shiekh Assim has said we can do once in a while like just once in a month I had personally listened to this response from this.
 

Seeking Allah's Mercy

Qul HuwaAllahu Ahud!
Yes the fatwa stated is true. But yes Shiekh Assim has said we can do once in a while like just once in a month I had personally listened to this response from this.

i've got one Q.after i finished Fajr sometime ago i was totally confused as how to well,let's just say should i clasp my hands in my lap of what.All of a sudden they felt like out of place when they were not riased.i usually cover my face with my hands is that alright??
 

IbnAdam77

Travelling towards my grave.
:salam2:wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu...
but the fatwa in akhi abu talib's post(jazakallah khairan for the fatwa akhi)mentions not to do it regularly even after nawafil so howcome you saying it's alright to raise hands on completion of salah.......am i missing something??

assalam 'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh

Yes sister I think you are missing something in my beloved brother Abu Talib's post, which is the Fatwa of IslamQA. (Sheikh Saleh al-Munajjid is the Sheikh of that website mostly.)

Here I quote the last paragraph of that Fatwa.

With regard to raising the hands after a naafil prayer, if that is not a du’aa’ that is regularly offered, such as when a man is faced with some emergency, and he calls upon Allaah at that moment, there is nothing wrong with that. But if he regularly makes du’aa’ and raises his hands after praying an obligatory prayer, there is no clear daleel to support doing so

Hope it is clear my sister.

wassalam 'alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh
 

IHearIslam

make dua 4 ma finals
Assalaamu alaikum,

subhanaAllaah, I didnt know this thread started some sort of argument. For those who are confused.....this is what the thread is basically saying. It's Bid'ah (an innovation) to raise hands when making dua after the fardh prayers! inshaAllaah, I hope it's clear. If you only pray fardh then, the best time to ask of Allaah is in your sajuud.....and or the tasleem position. We should not argue about that which has been refuted by the Ulama. If its said...then be it and Allaah knows best. Sister seeking Allaah's mercy....I know the hands would feel out of place. My best advice to you is, make your duas during prostration, and when you're done praying, praise Allaah and glorify His names! Then it will not feel out of place...:)
may Allaah help us understand our deeen! ameeeeeen
 

Islam!!yay

Junior Member
Assalaamu alaikum,

subhanaAllaah, I didnt know this thread started some sort of argument. For those who are confused.....this is what the thread is basically saying. It's Bid'ah (an innovation) to raise hands when making dua after the fardh prayers! inshaAllaah, I hope it's clear. If you only pray fardh then, the best time to ask of Allaah is in your sajuud.....and or the tasleem position. We should not argue about that which has been refuted by the Ulama. If its said...then be it and Allaah knows best. Sister seeking Allaah's mercy....I know the hands would feel out of place. My best advice to you is, make your duas during prostration, and when you're done praying, praise Allaah and glorify His names! Then it will not feel out of place...:)
may Allaah help us understand our deeen! ameeeeeen

:salam2:

What do you mean after Fardh Prayers ? Do you mean after simply finishing our daily prayers ? Does that include non-Fardh prayes ?

Thanjk You
 

IHearIslam

make dua 4 ma finals
:salam2:

What do you mean after Fardh Prayers ? Do you mean after simply finishing our daily prayers ? Does that include non-Fardh prayes ?

Thanjk You

:salam2:

yes, after our daily prayers....meaning the five obligatory prayers. non-fardh or nawafils....according to what brothe IbnAdam77 posted we can raise our hands then...
We can do it after Nawaafils according to 'Ulama, and in other circumstances too.
 

Idris16

Junior Member
:salam2:

yes, after our daily prayers....meaning the five obligatory prayers. non-fardh or nawafils....according to what brothe IbnAdam77 posted we can raise our hands then...
Salam Alaykum

Are you sure it is Bid'ah exactly after a fard prayer even though you may not make it a habit?
I pray fard and then make dhikr and then sometimes du'a or I pray Sunnah prayers
and finally make du'a. So is it an innovation.
 

IHearIslam

make dua 4 ma finals
Salam Alaykum

Are you sure it is Bid'ah exactly after a fard prayer even though you may not make it a habit?
I pray fard and then make dhikr and then sometimes du'a or I pray Sunnah prayers
and finally make du'a. So is it an innovation.

:salam2:
Akhi, it's not about me been sure or not....this is not what I came up with, subhanaAllaah. According to the fatwa, raising the hands after the fard prayers is not from the sunnah! I am quoting the fatwa again. The fatwa is talking about right after you finish prayer....and as you said you're talking about after you do dhikr and so forth...that might creat a difference. Allaah knows best, I hope somebody else can answer you better! inshaAllaah.

It is not established from the Prophet (sal Allaahu alaiyhi wa sallam) as far as we know that he raised his hands in duaa after the salaam in the obligatory prayers – and to raise them after the salaam in the obligatory prayer is in opposition to the Sunnah.
And with Allaah is the tawfeeq. And may peace and blessings be upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and his Companions.
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

After salat one makes dua. The hands are held up,palms facing heaven, hands together. Is it not written and did the Prophet, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, tell us that Allah never refuses the begging of a believer. Allah always fills the hands of the believer. It is that simple.
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Assalamu alaykum

The Fatwa is with regards to people who make it a habit to raise hands to make du'aa after Fardh. - They do so thinking (Associating) this as a formal act of worship / habit. Just like saying Astaghfirullah 3x, or tasbih after the Fardh, -- however, the Prophet :saw: would make du'aa in many ways, and its not recorded that he did du'aa after the fardh.

He :saw: singled out times and days, such as making du'aa between the Adhaan and Iqamah, on Fridays, or during the night in Ramadhan. Inside the Salah. This is often forgotten by Muslims today. The Prophet :saw: would make du'aa in the Rukuh, in Sujud, inbetween sujud, before the Taslim at the end of the prayer.

Of course, we can make Du'aa at any other time during the day.

Not that anyone has done anything wrong here, but I want to give a reminder for us all, that we should remember the beauty of Islam in how we teach and what we teach.

There are a lot of matters which I almost never touch upon, because, I know that people will be confused or not understand. Therefore, its best to go for the essentials that we all so much need. Such as Aqeedah, and learning what exactly is the Sunnah. - How can we explain why something might be an innovation, if people do not understand how the Sunnah exactly is, and what innovation in the Deen truly means?

I want to put the following Fatawa, because it shows just how much we need to be aware of how we interact with other people when we talk about our deen. The patience and understanding that we need. - In the following Fatwa, Shaykh Ibn Uthaimeen (Rahimahullah) , explains that, people might be doing things wrong, but, we need to explain to them in a gradual manner. - that does not mean we condone or excuse anything wrong, but place things in context.. and above all, show the love, honour of what it means to be a Muslim, a humble slave of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala).

Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked:

We have Shi’ah with us at work. Is it permissible for us to return their salaams? We also see them in the mosque praying on pieces of paper; is it permissible to expel them from the mosque?

He replied:
I say: treat them as they treat you. If they greet you with salaam, then return their salaams. It is not good to expel them from the mosque, rather some of them may be from among the common folk who do not know anything and have been misled by their scholars. If you are clever and call them in ways that are better, you may be able to influence them. Using violence is not something that is narrated in sharee’ah. Allaah loves kindness in all things. Now if you oppose them and say “Do not prostrate on pieces of paper, do not prostrate on stones” and the like, if the matter may be settled there and they will give up these things, that is good. But (the problem is that) they will persist, and the enmity and hostility between you will increase. What I think you must do is advise them first, especially the ordinary people. Advising does not mean attacking their madhhab and false religion. No, advising means explaining the truth to them and teaching them the Sunnah. Then after that, if you explain the Sunnah to them, I am absolutely certain that if they have real faith, they will come back to the Sunnah and give up their falsehood. If that happens, then that is better. If it does not happen, then you should treat them as they treat you. As for expelling them from the mosque, you have no right to do that.

Liqaa’aat al-Baab il-Maftooh (no. 80, question no. 4).

assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh
 

Peace2u

Turn To Islam
Asalam alai kum warahmatulahi Wabarakhatahu

The following article might be of benefit to us all Inshallah.

Collective Supplication (dua) after Fard Prayers

The answer to this question will be given in three parts. The first deals with supplicating (dua) after obligatory (fard) prayers, the second looks at raising the hands whilst supplicating and the third part discusses the issue of supplicating collectively (in Jama’ah). As far as the first issue is concerned, which is to supplicate after the Fard prayers, it is an established fact that to supplicate and make Dua after the various Fard prayers is an act of Sunnah. This was the practise of the blessed Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), his Companions (Allah be pleased with them) and the pious predecessors (Allah have mercy on them). Some evidences in this regard: 1) Abu Umama al-Bahili (Allah be pleased with him) narrates: The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) was asked as to which supplication (dua) was most quickly accepted? He replied: “In the middle of the night and after the obligatory (fard) prayers.” (Sunan Tirmidhi, 5/188 with a sound (hasan) chain of transmission). 2) Mughira ibn Shu’ba (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) used to supplicate three times after every prayer. (Recorded by Imam al-Bukhari in his Tarikh al-Awsat) 3) Thawban (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), after completing his prayer, used to seek forgiveness from Allah thrice and say: “O Allah! You are peace, from you is peace, You are exalted through Yourself above all else, O Majesty and Beneficence.” (Sahih Muslim, 5/89) 4) Mughira ibn Shu’ba (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), used to say after completing his prayer: “There is no god but Allah, alone without partner. His is the dominion, His is the praise, and He has power over all things. O Allah, none can withhold what You bestow, none can bestow what You withhold, and the fortune of the fortune avails nothing against You.” (Sahih al-Bukhari, 11/133 & Sahih Muslim, 5/90) 5) Muadh ibn Jabal (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to him: “I advise you O Muadh that you don’t leave the following words after every prayer: “O Allah, assist me in remembering you, showing gratitude to you and worshipping you in a good manner.” (Sunan Abu Dawud, 2/115 & Sunan Nasa’i, 3/53) The above are just some of the narrations that encourage supplicating to Allah after prayers, both obligatory and optional. There are many other such narrations which I have refrained from mentioning, as not to prolong this article. Raising the hands whilst supplicating Raising the hands whilst supplicating is also a Sunnah of our beloved Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace). There are general narrations that indicate that the hands should be raised whilst supplicating, and then there are narrations that specifically relate to raising the hands whilst supplicating after prayers. Some general narrations: 1) Ali ibn Abi Talib (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Raising the hands (whilst supplicating) is from the humbleness, regarding which Allah Most High said: “We inflicted punishment on them, but they humbled not themselves to their lord, nor do they submissively entreat.” (Sunan al-Bayhaqi & Mustadrak al-Hakim) 2) Salman (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “Verily Allah is inhibited and too beneficent that when an individual raises his hands, He rejects them empty and deprived.” (Sunan Abu Dawud, 2/1105 & Sunan Tirmidhi, 5/217) 3) Malik ibn Yasar (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “When you ask Allah, ask Him with the palm of your hands, and don’t ask Him with the back of the hands.” (Sunan Abu Dawud, 2/104, & Musnad Ahmad with a authentic (sahih) chain of transmission) 4) Umar ibn al-Khattab (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace), when he used to raise his hands in supplication, he did not place then down until he wiped his face with them.” (Sunan Tirmizi, 5/131) Narrations specific to raising the hands whilst supplicating after prayer: 1) Anas ibn Malik (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “There is not a servant of Allah who raises his hands after prayer, then says: O Allah, my Lord, Lord of Ibrahim, Lord of Ishaq, Lord of Ya’qub, Lord of Jibril, Lord of Mika’il, Lord of Israfil, I ask You that answer my prayer………….except that Allah takes it upon himself not to reject his (raising) of hands empty.” (Recorded by Ibn Sunni in his Amal al-Yawm wa al-Layla, P. 38) 2) Abdullah ibn Zubayr (Allah be pleased with him) saw a person raising his hands and supplicating before he completed his prayer. When he ended his prayer, he said to him: “The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) never used to raise his hands until after completing his prayer.” (Recorded by Tabrani in his al-Mu’jam, and authenticated by al-Haythami in Majma’ al-Zawaid) 3) Abu Huraira (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) raised his hands after making salam, and then whilst facing in the direction of the Qiblah, he said: “O Allah, …. liberate the weak Muslims from the hands of the non-believers.” (Recorded by Ibn Abi Hatim & Imam Ibn Kathir in his Tafsir) 4) Abu Wada’ah (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said: “The (optional) prayer of the night should be performed in sets of two Rak’ats, meaning you recite the Tashahhud after every two Rak’ah, express devotion and humility in your supplication, raise your hands and say: “O Allah, forgive me”. Whosoever fails to do so, his prayer will be incomplete.” (Sunan Abu Dawud, 2/40 & Sunan Ibn Majah, 1/419) There are many narrations that relate to the raising of hands whilst supplicating, both general and specifically after prayers. The great Jurist, Hadith expert and scholar, Imam al-Suyuti (Allah have mercy on him) mentions in his Tadrib al-Rawi that there are approximately 100 narrations with regards to raising the hands whilst supplicating, even though they concern separate incidents, thus reaching the level of certainty (Tawatur bi al-Ma’na). (See: Tadrib al-Rawi, P. 461) Supplicating collectively Supplicating collectively is also not foreign to the Qur’an and Sunnah. There are many proofs for the collective dua in the Qur’an and Sunnah, both inside and outside Salat. 1) Allah Most High said to Sayyiduna Musa and Sayyiduna Harun (peace be upon both of them): “Accepted is your prayer (O Musa and Harun)!” (Surah Yunus, 89) The reports from the Companions and Salaf concur that the modality of this supplication was that Musa (upon him be peace) supplicated while Harun (upon him be peace) said Amîn, as narrated by the Imams of Tafsir from Ibn Abbas, Abu Huraira, Abu al-Aliya, Abu Salih, Ikrima, Muhammad ibn Ka’b al-Qurazi, Rabi` ibn Anas and others. (See the Tafsirs Ibn Kathir (2/656) and al-Suyuti's al-Durr al-Manthur (3/315). 2) Habib ibn Maslama al-Fihri (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that I heard the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) say: “No group of believers assemble, one of them supplicating while others saying Amîn, except that Allah answers their prayer.” (Recorded by Tabrani in al-Mu’jum al-Kabir, 4/26 & Hakim in his al-Mustadrak, 3/347 and he classed it as authentic (sahih) 3) Anas ibn Malik (Allah be pleased with him) narrates that a villager came to the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) on Friday and said: “O Messenger of Allah! The livestock are dying, the dependents are dying, and the people are dying! Whereupon the Messenger of Allah rose his hands in supplication and the people raised their hands in supplication with the Messenger of Allah…..” (Sahih al-Bukhari, Book of supplications). 4) Abu Shaddad narrates while Ubada ibn al-Samit was present and confirmed him (Allah be pleased with them both): “We were in the house of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) when he said: “Is there any stranger amongst you?” He meant one from the People of the Book. We said, “No, O Messenger of Allah”. He ordered for the door to be shut and said: “Raise your hands and say Lâ ilâha illAllâh. We raised our hands for a while. Then he said: “O Allah! Truly You have sent me with this phrase and promised me Paradise for it. Truly, You do not break the trust”. Then he said: “Be glad, for Allah has forgiven you.” (Recorded by Imam Ahmad in his Musnad, 4/124, Tabrani in Mu’jam al-Kabir & classed by Haifidh al-Munziri to be sound (hasan). The above and other narrations are clear proof on the fact that to supplicate collectively is not against the Sunnah or an innovation (bid’a). This relates to supplicating inside or outside prayer. In light of the above, it becomes clear that to supplicate collectively after prayers is not an innovation rather something that has been proven from the Sunnah. There are evidences that one should supplicate immediately after obligatory prayers, and that raising one’s hands whilst supplicating is also a Sunnah, and finally collective supplication is also established in the Sunnah. Now, keeping these three types of evidences in mind, if one was to supplicate with the Imam and the other followers, then there is nothing wrong in doing so. We don’t need an explicit Hadith that says, to supplicate after Salat, whilst raising your hands and in congregation is Sunnah, rather, combining the three types of evidences are sufficient to prove its authenticity. For example, The Imam supplicates after obligatory prayers because this has been clearly mentioned in the Sunnah, with raising his hands, as that has also been established by the Sunnah, and the followers joined him, as supplicating collectively has also been proven in the Sunnah, then I don’t see where the problem lies. Moreover, if all the worshippers supplicate simultaneously after Fard prayers, then automatically there will be collective supplication. Having said that, it must be remarked here that the status of collective supplication after obligatory prayers is Mustahab or Sunnah. Many individuals seem to believe that the supplication is an integral part of Salat, thus the one who does not supplicate is doing something which is wrong. This belief must be avoided, as to supplicate after a prayer is not obligatory. If an individual does not supplicate, then he should not be rebuked or looked down upon. People must be left free to do what they want. For this reason, some of the scholars have stated that it would be better if the supplication was left out once in a while so that the concept on ‘necessity’ is removed from the minds of people. This supplication can be carried out loudly or silently. However, it is preferable to supplicate silently, as Allah Most High says: “Call on your lord with humility and in private.” (al-A’raf, 55) In it stated in the Hanafi reference book, al-Bazzaziyya: “If the Imam supplicated loudly with the followers, then there is nothing wrong in doing so, so that people learn the Qur’anic and Prophetic supplications. When they learn them, then supplicating loudly would be wrong.” (al-Bazzaziyya) In conclusion, there is nothing wrong in supplicating and making Dua collectively after Fard prayers. However, one should not regard it as necessary or in any way part of Salat.

Source: http://salafidawa.blogspot.com/2009/07/collective-supplication-dua-after-fard.html
 

IHearIslam

make dua 4 ma finals
Assalamu alaykum

The Fatwa is with regards to people who make it a habit to raise hands to make du'aa after Fardh. - They do so thinking (Associating) this as a formal act of worship / habit. Just like saying Astaghfirullah 3x, or tasbih after the Fardh, -- however, the Prophet :saw: would make du'aa in many ways, and its not recorded that he did du'aa after the fardh.

He :saw: singled out times and days, such as making du'aa between the Adhaan and Iqamah, on Fridays, or during the night in Ramadhan. Inside the Salah. This is often forgotten by Muslims today. The Prophet :saw: would make du'aa in the Rukuh, in Sujud, inbetween sujud, before the Taslim at the end of the prayer.

Of course, we can make Du'aa at any other time during the day.

Not that anyone has done anything wrong here, but I want to give a reminder for us all, that we should remember the beauty of Islam in how we teach and what we teach.

There are a lot of matters which I almost never touch upon, because, I know that people will be confused or not understand. Therefore, its best to go for the essentials that we all so much need. Such as Aqeedah, and learning what exactly is the Sunnah. - How can we explain why something might be an innovation, if people do not understand how the Sunnah exactly is, and what innovation in the Deen truly means?

I want to put the following Fatawa, because it shows just how much we need to be aware of how we interact with other people when we talk about our deen. The patience and understanding that we need. - In the following Fatwa, Shaykh Ibn Uthaimeen (Rahimahullah) , explains that, people might be doing things wrong, but, we need to explain to them in a gradual manner. - that does not mean we condone or excuse anything wrong, but place things in context.. and above all, show the love, honour of what it means to be a Muslim, a humble slave of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala).

Shaykh Muhammad ibn Saalih al-‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) was asked:

We have Shi’ah with us at work. Is it permissible for us to return their salaams? We also see them in the mosque praying on pieces of paper; is it permissible to expel them from the mosque?

He replied:
I say: treat them as they treat you. If they greet you with salaam, then return their salaams. It is not good to expel them from the mosque, rather some of them may be from among the common folk who do not know anything and have been misled by their scholars. If you are clever and call them in ways that are better, you may be able to influence them. Using violence is not something that is narrated in sharee’ah. Allaah loves kindness in all things. Now if you oppose them and say “Do not prostrate on pieces of paper, do not prostrate on stones” and the like, if the matter may be settled there and they will give up these things, that is good. But (the problem is that) they will persist, and the enmity and hostility between you will increase. What I think you must do is advise them first, especially the ordinary people. Advising does not mean attacking their madhhab and false religion. No, advising means explaining the truth to them and teaching them the Sunnah. Then after that, if you explain the Sunnah to them, I am absolutely certain that if they have real faith, they will come back to the Sunnah and give up their falsehood. If that happens, then that is better. If it does not happen, then you should treat them as they treat you. As for expelling them from the mosque, you have no right to do that.

Liqaa’aat al-Baab il-Maftooh (no. 80, question no. 4).

assalamu alaykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh

:salam2:
barakaAllaah feek akhi, may Allaah bless you!
I think it's more clear now for most of the members here! may Allaah giveyou the best of this world and the hereafter!ameen
 

Idris16

Junior Member
Assalamu alaykum
The Fatwa is with regards to people who make it a habit to raise hands to make du'aa after Fardh. - They do so thinking (Associating) this as a formal act of worship / habit.
Alhamdulilah that answered my question, JazâkAllahu Khayr.

:salam2:
Akhi, it's not about me been sure or not....this is not what I came up with, subhanaAllaah. According to the fatwa, raising the hands after the fard prayers is not from the sunnah! I am quoting the fatwa again. The fatwa is talking about right after you finish prayer....and as you said you're talking about after you do dhikr and so forth...that might creat a difference. Allaah knows best, I hope somebody else can answer you better! inshaAllaah.
I'm sorry, I should of asked you in a better way, I knew it wasn't you who came up with this.
 
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