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britwill

New Member
Hi BRMM,
Thank you that was extremely helpful. First I do need to apologize for calling him my boyfriend. We are supposed to be married, and have been for a few months, but are not married yet. So we are engaged but just haven't decided what to do.
I do realize Iran for the most part are Shiites including my "fiance." I just hadn't completely grasped the difference until you just laid it out for me.
About the part whether I would be interested in Islam if not for my relationship a few weeks or month ago I would have probably said no. But since I started reading a little bit about it, I really have to say at this point yes, even if he was not around I still would be interested in possibly reverting.
Once again thank you for your response, it was of great help.
Brittany
 

britwill

New Member
The one thing I have realized though is that through what I have looked at so far I am more interested in Sunni Islam, than Shia. That is how I have come to realize I am not doing it for a relationship, but for my own want.
Brittany
 

mahaseeb

Junior Member
Asalamualikum....
Mashallah thats great sister.. I just wanted to write about shia and sunni and ask you to do things for your creator not for your boyfriend the day i saw your post but i waited for other brothers/sisters to clarify this since i my self learning from this site and alhamdulillah the brothers and sisters on this site have cleared your doubt.I wish you all the best my sister and may allah bless you and help you and open the doors of mercy and guidence.... ameen..
Take care sister..
Asalamualikunm..
Abdul Haseeb
 

Wannabemuslim

Junior Member
:salam2: Honestly I think one should stay away from sects,you can have different opinions but never seperate someone because they are shia. All the arabic qurans in the world are the same and all muslims follow it. The rest of the differences is moslty about what the prophet said (hadith). And the religious leaders (calaphate)

Not to change this thread to sunni shi'ite debate...
 

s.hashemi

New Member
:salam2:

Warm wishes and peace to sister Brittany and all the brothers and sisters on the forum. I will slide a bit into politics here so please forgive me.

I have no problem with Ayatollah Khomeini as I believe he was much better than Reza Shah Pahlavi and definitely much better than his adversary saddam, at least Khomeini brought Islam back for Iranians and he desired Islamic Unity although he followed the flawed sect of shi'ism; he told saddam not to fight amongst Muslims and the saudis and saddam did great wrong by attacking a Muslim country in Iran; Khomeini and the IR of Iran also did great wrongs in slaughtering many of their own citizens which goes on to this day. Every Arab country joined the war on Iran for reasons of Arab nationalism and not religion (Syria did not involve itself in this war) and this was a 100% American war.

The war the US and Iraq launched against Iran was not Islamic it was a fitna between Muslims created by non-Muslims, we should not fight with shi'as, but shi'as must quit their cursings on the righteous companion's (R) of the Prophet sws. As for nationalism, if someone is true to Islam they shouldn't be calling themselves Persian, Arab, Turk, Pakistani, Canadian but they should be calling themselves Muslims. The Arab and Iranian hostility is largely due to this scandalous war created by George Sr and his madman.



To explain better: Sunni refers to the orthodoxy of Islam it's not a sect, whereas Shi'ism is a sect. Sunni means to follow the sunnah, ie. the lifestyle, of the Holy Prophet Muhammad sws. 500 years ago, Iran was sunni but the Azeri Safavids slowly changed that and to this day Iran remains a predominantly shi'a country. While they are Muslim, they curse Aisha, Abu Bakr, Umar ibn al-Khattab, and Uthman (may Allah be pleased with them all). This is a very sinful act, as these people were among the holiest Muslims alongside Ali, Fatima, Hassan, and Hussain (may Allah be pleased with them all).

Ali (R) had no quarrel with the caliphate of the first 3 caliphs (R). As for Aisha (R), she is acquitted of what they accuse her in the Holy Qur'an it self.

The massacre at Qarbala was a travesty and went against the teachings of Islam, however, this is no reason to hurt oneself and become obsessed with grief and drawing one's own blood as many of the shi'ah do; this is not to say we shouldn't be sad at what happened, but self mutilation is not part of Islam.

Also in Iran they have a shrine to the man who murdered Umar (R) so these are reasons why the Sunni world has dislike for shi'as; however they still are Muslim and should not be attacked or killed; nor should there be infighting between the sects as takes place in Pakistan, Lebanon, and Iraq; otherwise we fall deeper into the trap of Divide & Conquer whether it be in the form of Nationalism or Sectarianism.


My recommendation to you dear sister, is that you pray to Allah and ask for guidance, when you feel like converting to Islam do it for yourself and because this is the Truth sent to us by Allah. If you want to be a Muslim you must follow the orthodox ways of Prophet Muhammad (sws) to get the full benefit of the deen, as opposed to joining an innovative sect or a secret pantheistic tariqa... Maybe one day you will be able to convince your future husband and the proof is all in the Holy Qur'an and Sahih Hadith.

Salam 3alaikum w 3ala 3areisik.
And in Persian: Khodanegahdare shoma va shoharetoon.
 

brmm

Junior Member
:salam2:

Warm wishes and peace to sister Brittany and all the brothers and sisters on the forum. I will slide a bit into politics here so please forgive me.

I have no problem with Ayatollah Khomeini as I believe he was much better than Reza Shah Pahlavi and definitely much better than his adversary saddam, at least Khomeini brought Islam back for Iranians and he desired Islamic Unity although he followed the flawed sect of shi'ism; he told saddam not to fight amongst Muslims and the saudis and saddam did great wrong by attacking a Muslim country in Iran; Khomeini and the IR of Iran also did great wrongs in slaughtering many of their own citizens which goes on to this day. Every Arab country joined the war on Iran for reasons of Arab nationalism and not religion (Syria did not involve itself in this war) and this was a 100% American war.

The war the US and Iraq launched against Iran was not Islamic it was a fitna between Muslims created by non-Muslims, we should not fight with shi'as, but shi'as must quit their cursings on the righteous companion's (R) of the Prophet sws. As for nationalism, if someone is true to Islam they shouldn't be calling themselves Persian, Arab, Turk, Pakistani, Canadian but they should be calling themselves Muslims. The Arab and Iranian hostility is largely due to this scandalous war created by George Sr and his madman.
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:salam2: brother, I don't wish to go through a debate now about this because it is not the right place for it. I just wish to say I don't agree with this information and wish to remind you with what the Khomaini have said in 1988 when he was forced to stop the war because Iran had no weapons to fight Iraq, he said " Accepting the decision of stopping the war is more difficult than drinking a poison ".
Saddam killed the people in the name of loyalty to Iraq, but Khomaini killed the people in the name of Islam, so which one is worse ?!
By the way, Iran still have Iraqi prisoners from that war and they still refusing to return them back to Iraq.

Khoda Hafiz inshallah.

:wasalam:
 

brmm

Junior Member
The one thing I have realized though is that through what I have looked at so far I am more interested in Sunni Islam, than Shia. That is how I have come to realize I am not doing it for a relationship, but for my own want.
Brittany

Alhamdolillah, you are on the right path.
 

Just a Guy

Reinventing Myself
I don't know enough about Islam yet to get into Sunni vs. Shia. I'm just trying to follow the example of the Prophet (peace be upon him) and become closer to Allah subhanah watallah.
 

BrotherMatthew

Land of the free
:wasalam:

Some of this information is not correct. The main difference between Shia and Sunni is that Shia follow the 12 decendants of Muhammad (s) as the leaders of Islam after Muhammad (s), known as Imams. Shias and Sunnis both pray to only Allah and worship Him only (I myself am actually Shia)

Hope that clears the air
 

masihuddin

Junior Member
There is no sect in Islam .The Quran says "Hold fast to the rope of Allah (The Quran)and do not have differances . The objective of a Muslim is to attain Peace by submitting his/her will to the will of Allah and follow the wonderfull way of life prqacticed by all the prophets - Noaha Abraham Moses Jrsus and Muhammad (the last of the prophets )may Allah s peace be on all of them .
The Deen show videoes available on Yotube or website www.thedeenshow.com would help you to understand Islam and to make up your mind in becming a Muslim
May Allah guide you
 

Asja

Pearl of Islaam
:wasalam:

Some of this information is not correct. The main difference between Shia and Sunni is that Shia follow the 12 decendants of Muhammad (s) as the leaders of Islam after Muhammad (s), known as Imams. Shias and Sunnis both pray to only Allah and worship Him only (I myself am actually Shia)

Hope that clears the air

Assalamu allaicum wa raahmatullah wa baarkatuhu dear brother

Dear brother, why do you call yourselfe or say for yourselfe that you are Shia Muslim when Allah subhan wa teala has alredy called us as Muslims only-

Seperating on sects and callings oursleves with other names than as Muslims is wrong.We are Muslims only Alhamdulillah,we belive in one God Allah,and we are followers of our Prophet Mohammed sallahu alayha wa saalam.

The reason why we need to say for ourselves that we are Sunni Muslims Alhamdulilah, is because Shia Muslims has already seperate themselves and are not following the truth Islaam. May Allah guide them to the right path. Allahume Ameen.

Dear brother there are many good threads on TTI about Shia sect in Islaam Mashallah where you can read about this devided sect and why they have wrong teaching of our deen Islaam.

I pray to Allah I did not said nothing wrong to you brother.

May Allah guide us all to the right path.

:wasalam:
 

s.hashemi

New Member
Assalamu allaicum wa raahmatullah wa baarkatuhu dear brother

Dear brother, why do you call yourselfe or say for yourselfe that you are Shia Muslim when Allah subhan wa teala has alredy called us as Muslims only-

Seperating on sects and callings oursleves with other names than as Muslims is wrong.We are Muslims only Alhamdulillah,we belive in one God Allah,and we are followers of our Prophet Mohammed sallahu alayha wa saalam.

The reason why we need to say for ourselves that we are Sunni Muslims Alhamdulilah, is because Shia Muslims has already seperate themselves and are not following the truth Islaam. May Allah guide them to the right path. Allahume Ameen.

Dear brother there are many good threads on TTI about Shia sect in Islaam Mashallah where you can read about this devided sect and why they have wrong teaching of our deen Islaam.

I pray to Allah I did not said nothing wrong to you brother.

May Allah guide us all to the right path.

:wasalam:

I am not a shi'ah to defend Khomeini but what I am seeing is he was better than Saddam Hussein, who gassed the Kurds, killed Arabs, Persians, Kurds, Turkman and erected statues towards himself; whereas Khomeini destroyed the statues errected by Reza Shah. Khomeini and the Islamic Republic did evils too, without a doubt, but Saddam Hussein is and always will be a mason and a CIA agent who started war with Muslimeen.
 

s.hashemi

New Member
Assalamu allaicum wa raahmatullah wa baarkatuhu dear brother
The reason why we need to say for ourselves that we are Sunni Muslims Alhamdulilah, is because Shia Muslims has already seperate themselves and are not following the truth Islaam. May Allah guide them to the right path. Allahume Ameen.

This is exactly true, Sunni is not a sect it simply means we follow the example of the Prophet (sws); and we don't curse the sa7abah.
 

Asja

Pearl of Islaam
This is exactly true, Sunni is not a sect it simply means we follow the example of the Prophet (sws); and we don't curse the sa7abah.

:salam2:

Alhamdulilah dear brother.

We call ourselves as Sunni Muslims Alhamdulilah because we are folowers of Sunnah of our Prophet Mohammed sallahu alyha wa saalam and practise of Islaam by his Sahabhas r.a and the first generations of Muslims.

May Allah guide Shia Muslims on the right path, and all our Ummah. Ameen ya Rabby

:wasalam:
 

Munawar

Striving for Paradise
:salam2:
My dear wonderful and beautiful brothers and sisters,
Assalam-o-alikum --- May All-Mighty God Allah's peace and blessing be upon you all.

Let us not confuse sister Brittnay with our discussions which may not belong here. If someone wants to then they can open an another thread easily.

Let sister Brittnay do her study and learn about Islam. She is quite smart and she has already shown her preference towards Sunni Islam.

I would only say this: that Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and his followers (called Sahabah) and their desendents for 2 more generations (called Tabai and Taba-Tabai) were neither Sunni nor Shia. I am like one of those people. I don't want to add or delete any of the religious practices those Sahabah did.
Islam was completed in the time of our beloved Prophet Mohammad (PBUH).
This is my only message here.

Wassalam.
:wasalam:
 

s.hashemi

New Member
:salam2:

I apologize to all, a separate thread would be better. Allah guide us all to what is best, Inshallah.

I make du3a Allah guides you Brittany and sorry to everyone for the diversion. It was all me, and I will not repeat it Inshallah.

Be happy Brittany, you are on the path towards Allah as prescribed by his Noble Messenger (sws); may you attain paradise, mercy, and guidance from Allah, ameen. :) And may everyone else here do so as well.

:salam2:
 

Asja

Pearl of Islaam
:salam2:
My dear wonderful and beautiful brothers and sisters,
Assalam-o-alikum --- May All-Mighty God Allah's peace and blessing be upon you all.

Let us not confuse sister Brittnay with our discussions which may not belong here. If someone wants to then they can open an another thread easily.

Let sister Brittnay do her study and learn about Islam. She is quite smart and she has already shown her preference towards Sunni Islam.

I would only say this: that Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) and his followers (called Sahabah) and their desendents for 2 more generations (called Tabai and Taba-Tabai) were neither Sunni nor Shia. I am like one of those people. I don't want to add or delete any of the religious practices those Sahabah did.
Islam was completed in the time of our beloved Prophet Mohammad (PBUH).
This is my only message here.

Wassalam.
:wasalam:

Assalamu allaicum wa raahmatulah wa baarakatuhu

May Allah forgive me if I done wrong dear brother for going out of thread and real intention of this thread of giving dawah about our deen Islam.

And may Allah reward you dear brother for your intentions and for remainding us.

:wasalam:
 

britwill

New Member
Hi all,
There is no need to apologize. Although I guess it did get a little off topic, it really did help me learn more about the two sects. This was something I was trying to learn about, so it was a great help. Over the past few days I have been reading many of the things everyone has told me to look through, and I feel I have learned such a great deal in just a few days. Any more suggestions or good sites anyone may have will be welcomed.
Thank you again,
Brittany
 

Aisya al-Humaira

الحمدلله على كل حال
Hello Brit,

Hope you are doing well, God willing.

I hope that it's not too late for me to welcome you to this site. Alhamdulillah (All praise to Allaah) as He has lead you to seek and learn about Islam.

I pray sincerely in my heart that may Allaah subhaanahu wa Ta'ala guide you to the true path. :)

Take care and do keep learning, eh?

Good Day!
 
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