WHY DO INDIAN MUSLIMS FOLLOW VEDAS MORE THAN QURAN

AISHA14

allah is my lord
HMMM ............ thats what i meant dear pple. well alhumdulllila many of us really realize that all this are bidah, but you know some of them wana live in this darkness purposley.... seriously its so bad may allah guide them
 

muharram23

New Member
Staff member
your right sis...
this is too,too,too,too,too,too,too wrong....
i dont understand why the hell do they do this...
asthagfiruallah...
it is a shame for all of us muslims..
in saudi arabia they dont do all these crap things...(wierd)..
alhamdulillah, saudi arabia is pure country, and even the people are pure...
but , here so many of them are following and doing shirk (sick)...
inshallah, may allah guide them-ameen-

Salamu alaykum

indeed that is the only country that it's leaders support the scholars and spends it's wealth to protect the tawhid and sunnAh of the prophet :saw: and help in fighting shirk and innovations. May Allah protect it ameen.

May Allah guide us all and give us the understanding of religion.

Ameen

wassalam
 

SaffaIslam

New Member
Salam'alaykum
well sis,im happy when u realize that not all Indian-Muslim doing such things.

This is what happen, when muslim mix religion-with-ritual. different country, have different rituals which .. some of them is acceptable, while other is totally astray and rejected.

Rasulullah salallah'alaih wassalam said. "every innovation is astray,and astray lead to hell" -pls correct me if am wrong

and Rasulullah PBUH said "man amila amala laisa alaihi amruna fahuwa roddu" things that not from Allah and Rasul is rejected

So for me, Islam is a perfect teaching where we shud 1st take islam fully.
As Allah said in quran, "enter islam kaffah(fully)" u cant take half islam and half toghut. or u cant add up something into islam.

Today our main problem is aqeedah, where our aqeedah is not strong enough. We tends to get confused easily abt islam, and take wrong source and end up on the wrong path (nauzubillah min dzalik)

Rasulullah PBUH took 13years to preach Aqidah.. because Aqidah is the main basic thing for everyone. if our aqidah is weak, it will lead to many problem and it will get more complicated..

wallahu`alam
 

muharram23

New Member
Staff member
Salam'alaykum
well sis,im happy when u realize that not all Indian-Muslim doing such things.

This is what happen, when muslim mix religion-with-ritual. different country, have different rituals which .. some of them is acceptable, while other is totally astray and rejected.

Rasulullah salallah'alaih wassalam said. "every innovation is astray,and astray lead to hell" -pls correct me if am wrong

and Rasulullah PBUH said "man amila amala laisa alaihi amruna fahuwa roddu" things that not from Allah and Rasul is rejected

So for me, Islam is a perfect teaching where we shud 1st take islam fully.
As Allah said in quran, "enter islam kaffah(fully)" u cant take half islam and half toghut. or u cant add up something into islam.

Today our main problem is aqeedah, where our aqeedah is not strong enough. We tends to get confused easily abt islam, and take wrong source and end up on the wrong path (nauzubillah min dzalik)

Rasulullah PBUH took 13years to preach Aqidah.. because Aqidah is the main basic thing for everyone. if our aqidah is weak, it will lead to many problem and it will get more complicated..

wallahu`alam

salamu alayku

very correct. Barakallahu feek

wassalam
 

Hard Rock Moslem

I'm your brother
Remember this saying: "There are black sheep in every community". Pls make du'a for our brothers and sisters from Indian community to get rid of bid'ah.
 

hussain.mahammed

a lonely traveller
As salamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu brothers and sisters. The thread title forced me to look inside and Insha Allah I hope we discuss and understand things in a logical manner.

:salam2:
WELL BROTHERS yesterday ,i attended one indian marrage they did so many use less things ..they are just eh! tooooooo much with all that bidah. they took a big hall worth rupees 1lakh and so much of food was waisted ya allah and not only that. before maraige they kept many funtions like HALDi(turmeric powder funtion) were they apply turmeric powder mixed with water to the bride and groom on thier legs ,face ,arms, in the precence of males and female its so free gathering of the opposite sexes . i mean they add many stupid things like this .if our prophet :saw:was there then he would surely stop this eh!:SMILY138:... well its all bidah .... and some of them here make grave yards as a place of celebration:SMILY309:...... i mean they say the man who died in this grave was very islamic person and they bow infront of him and ask him to ask allah to cure there disease ........
they never listen to us when we say them all this is nothing but shirk and bidah .but they reply to us telling that" you people are from saudi you dont know the truth many mairacles have taken plece in this grave yard and many are cured" and bla bla bla:tantrum1:........
iam just fed up of all this .ah it certainly makes me angry:angryred::angryblue:
jazakallah

Sister, you're very much right. There are people in India, who follow customs of that sort. But again as another sister mentioned we should never generalize the actions of one family to the whole community. Please remember, the population of India is more than 1 billion and among them the population of Muslims amount to more than 250 Million. India stretches about 3200 kms from North to South and another 3000 kms from East to West. So obviously people are diverse in many aspects. Majority of the Muslims are uneducated. There might be some Muslims who go to dargahs or follow hindu rituals. This is going on because they do not have enough Islamic knowledge or education. They cannot even distinguish between what is right and what is wrong. What we can do on our part is educate the ignorant ones. Try to make as much duwas as possible, so that Allah Subhanahu wa Taala gives all of us hikmah and hidayah. I appreciate your effort that you decided to make this thread. We need to benefit our community from Aqeedah and Manhaj of the Salaf.

I'm sorry if I offended any Indian Muslim, me too Indian reverted Muslim.

My younger brother a revert also. Recently I went to his future wife house to discuss about marriage proposal. They are born Muslim. I was shocked when they told my brother (separately) that one of the ceremony will be my brother will need to tie a black rope just like hindu tie "mangala sutra". I told my brother no, but he said the girl family insist and apparently it is normal practice in their family. I check with other Indian Muslims they told me it is normal practice in India too. I really not very sure but my own foster parents told me this.

Once again, pls accept my apology if this is construed as "generalising all Indian Muslim". No this is only for the sake of knowledge and to ensure my brother will not commit bid'ah during his wedding day.

Can someone more knowledgeable tell me what is happenning?

Brother, as I mentioned above due to lack of proper Islamic teachings, these kind of things are happening in most parts of India. Most of the Muslims in India follow imams of mosques who themselves support these kind of things. Again I am reiterating that we should never generalize as there are Muslims who follow correct Aqeedah and Manhaj of the Salaf. So the ones that are ignorant we need to educate them. Also make as much duwas, for the Muslims in India, Pakistan, Bangladesh and all over the world.

well pakistani and indian culture or bidah is quite similar to each other .......putting the Quran on top of the head of the bride and groom after all the dancing and music is like the biggest hypocrisy u can ever imagine...its like first u kill some1 and cut him to pieces then u sew him up and say well now the police will think i have feelings so they wont arrest me

Again I am saying humbly that please do not generalize. If you can make effort to help the Muslims in India, Pakistan or Bangladesh, please visit these countries and help them. There is no point in discussion which do not benefit us or the community. I understand your feelings that you pointed it out because you've seen such things happening. If you've come in direct contact with such a family or muslims, please try to educate them and spread correct Islamic teachings.

Remember this saying: "There are black sheep in every community". Pls make du'a for our brothers and sisters from Indian community to get rid of bid'ah.

Very well said brother. May Allah Subhanahu wa Taala guide us all. The reason why I decided to write this post is not to debate with any of the brothers or sisters, but to point out that there are problems which Muslim communities are facing across the globe. Each and every region has its own set of Muslims who are facing different problems. What we need to do is take the matter in hand and try to solve it. Otherwise there is no point in discussion which do not benefit any of us. May Allah Taala forgive me if I've made any mistake.

Barakallahu feekum for taking the time to read the post.

Wa/salam
 

allah is with me

Rabana Wa laqal Hamd
Salamu alaykum

indeed that is the only country that it's leaders support the scholars and spends it's wealth to protect the tawhid and sunnAh of the prophet :saw: and help in fighting shirk and innovations. May Allah protect it ameen.

May Allah guide us all and give us the understanding of religion.

Ameen

wassalam

well, mashallah! your right....
saudi arabia is the purest country, even if the people are bad over, but the country reminds of my prophet (s.a.w).. i love my country...
 

Yahya1819

Junior Member
well, mashallah! your right....
saudi arabia is the purest country, even if the people are bad over, but the country reminds of my prophet (s.a.w).. i love my country...


Many Saudi's are very very racist!!! I heard once there was a south asian guy sitting in the bus in Saudi Arabia and a Saudi man came and literally kicked him out of his seat and took it. They are realllly weally racist towards South Asian's. How Un-Islamic!!!!!!!
 

IslamicGirl24

Junior Member
Well, I think that the reason there are so many un-islamic things residing in our society is because of lack of education. it's our fault that the Muslims have indulged in such activities. We have forgotten that it's obligatory for us to teach the people about what is wrong and what is right. Very few people actually take practical steps to eradicate such ignorance. It's in our habit to judge, generalize other people's actions.
We must preach Islam's message to everyone, be it Muslims or Non-Muslms. and make lots of Duas for everyone. May Allah swt help us all.
 

lovefordeen

Junior Member
your right sis...
this is too,too,too,too,too,too,too wrong....
i dont understand why the hell do they do this...
asthagfiruallah...
it is a shame for all of us muslims..
in saudi arabia they dont do all these crap things...(wierd)..
alhamdulillah, saudi arabia is pure country, and even the people are pure...
but , here so many of them are following and doing shirk (sick)...
inshallah, may allah guide them-ameen-

assalaamu alaikum

iam new to this site and just happened to browse through this thread....i'm actually shocked to see your post...it is true that there are many muslims in india who do these sort of things,and we should not forget that there are many who follow the deen seperating it from hindu culture and making islam their deen and culture,subhanallah..but sister,i dont understand what you mean by saying "alhamdulillah, saudi arabia is pure country, and even the people are pure"....do you mean to say that none of the saudis follow bidah..Allah knows best sister...i think this is a false statement...there are some saudis who spent millions on hall decoration,food and some women dress like they are going to the oscars....so lets try not to generalize any section of people....there are some people all over the world who take islam seriously and some who dont...but please dont say "the people are pure"...some are alhamdulilah ;and saying that "they dont do these things in saudi"...sadly,some do..

lets all try participating in seperating bidah from our ummah...whether it be from india,america,saudi or pakistan..we should not be nationalistic in our approach...may Allah forgive me sister, if i have hurt you;that was not my intention :hearts: .but i feel that there are some arab muslims who are racist to muslims from south asia.... :girl3: i'm very much saddened by it..because muhammed saws said " All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over white except by piety and good action."...so sister please dont" i love my country"..but we should say" i love my ummah"...
and please dont think i'm supporting shirk...asthagfirulah... :astag: never!!!!!people need to be educated about islam...may Allah guide and forgive us all...ameen :tti_sister:

jazakallah khairan
 

nyerekareem

abdur-rahman
:salam2:

Islam has led a clear path towards knowledge. It had shown us our jahil ways and we for the most part have left those ways. In other words is that although Islam has freed us from ignorance, some people have clung onto the ignorance of the past and tried to incorporate it with Islam because they are too in love with that aspect of ignorance to let it go.
:wasalam:
 

islamirama

www.netmuslims.com
alhamdulillah, saudi arabia is pure country, and even the people are pure...
but , here so many of them are following and doing shirk (sick)...
inshallah, may allah guide them-ameen-


Many Saudi's are very very racist!!! I heard once there was a south asian guy sitting in the bus in Saudi Arabia and a Saudi man came and literally kicked him out of his seat and took it. They are realllly weally racist towards South Asian's. How Un-Islamic!!!!!!!

Saudi pure country and even people are pure? hahaha

Saudi is a monarchy country with semi shariah, one the royals are exempt from. Only Masjid Nabi and haraam are pure, everything else is corrupted and infested with kuffars. As for the people, they are far from pure, they are one of the worst Muslims on the face of this earth. Not only the hypocrite dogs kill other non-gulf arabs to please their western masters but what they do to non-arabs working there is so sickening that no kuffar would do what they do to other humans.

Gulf Torture, Human Rights Abuse & Slavery system
 

esperanza

revert of many years
Saudi pure country and even people are pure? hahaha

Saudi is a monarchy country with semi shariah, one the royals are exempt from. Only Masjid Nabi and haraam are pure, everything else is corrupted and infested with kuffars. As for the people, they are far from pure, they are one of the worst Muslims on the face of this earth. Not only the hypocrite dogs kill other non-gulf arabs to please their western masters but what they do to non-arabs working there is so sickening that no kuffar would do what they do to other humans.

Gulf Torture, Human Rights Abuse & Slavery system

salam brother..do you know saudis personally..have you ever lived or visited saudi..... you cannot say everything is corrupt and\infested wiht kuffars..that is a massive generalisatio9n,,,,and they are certainly not the worst muslims on the earth..how do uou justify that statement
and to call them dogs..be careful with your insults..may Allah forgive you

are you perfect is your ountry perfect..are all those you associate with perfect... i dont think so
no kuffar would do what they do..that is a massive statement

and who gives you the right to judge others...

iread the website you gave..there was no proof of killing and abuse
 

islamirama

www.netmuslims.com
salam brother..do you know saudis personally..have you ever lived or visited saudi..... you cannot say everything is corrupt and\infested wiht kuffars..that is a massive generalisatio9n,,,,and they are certainly not the worst muslims on the earth..how do uou justify that statement
and to call them dogs..be careful with your insults..may Allah forgive you

are you perfect is your ountry perfect..are all those you associate with perfect... i dont think so
no kuffar would do what they do..that is a massive statement

and who gives you the right to judge others...

:wasalam:

I never claimed my country or people to be pure. And don't talk to me on this subject until you have READ every post on that link i gave.
 

esperanza

revert of many years
:wasalam:

I never claimed my country or people to be pure. And don't talk to me on this subject until you have READ every post on that link i gave.

i have read every post now..and ihate yes that suh abuse goes on ..i have always been against disrimination of any type

but that does not give you the right to call the whol;e nation dogs and kaffars..

and why do you live in a country which is one of greatest agressors against muslims
 

Hatty

Junior Member
As it was mentioned in some the posts above - it is not only in India where you can see shirk taking place. May Allah guide us and them to the straight path. We even have some Shirk practices in Libya. It used to be even more wide spread when I was young, according to my parents generation. Now people are becoming more aware of Islam and Shirk. But there is still some pockets of Shirk.

I ask Allah to educate us the proper teaching of His religion and guide us to the straight path and keep us on it. Ameen....
 

islamirama

www.netmuslims.com
i have read every post now..and ihate yes that suh abuse goes on ..i have always been against disrimination of any type

but that does not give you the right to call the whol;e nation dogs and kaffars..

and why do you live in a country which is one of greatest agressors against muslims

you read every post already? really? ok, i'll take your word for it for now...

No one is calling them kuffars, just called them dogs cuz they are and called them the worst Muslims cuz they are. You name one non-arab Muslim nation that has this slavery sponsor system, that has employers and households torturing their workers, burning them, throwing them off 3 story high buildings, locking them up, not paying their wages, hammering nails in their bodies, burning them, raping them, even murdering them and then being protected and backed by the gov't system. You name one non-arab Muslim nation that does that and then we'll talk.

There is no doubt US is one of the greatest enemy of Islam. But even this enemy treats humans like humans within its borders and protects their rights. I, at least, know I can have my islamic rights and human rights given to me in this kuffar land more than I can expect it in arab land. Here you get $75,000 granted to you and forced culture/religious training to the employers (board of education and principals) for being forced to decided between hajj and your job (teaching). In gulf arab, you get slapped in a traffic accident by the arab even when it's the arab's fault and the arab cop that shows up also favors the stupid arab who was at fault.

If you want to defend your in-laws then i suggest you open another thread, otherwise lets get back to the topic.
 

esperanza

revert of many years
you read every post already? really? ok, i'll take your word for it for now...

No one call them kuffars, just called them dogs cuz they are and called them the worst Muslims cuz they are. You name one non-arab Muslim nation that has this slavery sponsor system, that has employers and households torturing their workers, burning them, throwing them off 3 story high buildings, locking them up, not paying their wages, hammering nails in their bodies, burning them, raping them, even murdering them and then being protected and backed by the gov't system. You name one non-arab Muslim nation that does that and then we'll talk.

There is no doubt US is one of the greatest enemy Islam. But even this enemy treats humans like humans within its borders and protects their rights. I at least know I can have my islamic rights and human rights given to me in this kuffar land more than I can expect it in arab land. Here you get $75,000 granted to you and forced culture/religious training to the employers (board of education and principals) for being forced to decided between hajj and your job (teaching). In gulf arab, you get slapped in a traffic accident by the arab even when its the arab's fault and the arab cop that shows up also favors the stupid arab who was at fault.

If you want to defend your in-laws then i suggest you open another thread, otherwise lets get back to the topic.

for the last time ..my inlaws are not saudi

and oyu cannot use a number of incidents...to class a whole people as dogs..and whole ountry as worst muslims

and there are a few muslim ccountry out there masacccaring.their own people..shooting as they exit the mosques...you dont say much about that...

and your telling me as a muslim you have all your rights in america

you may get better mateiral rewardsw..but are you really free as a muslim


do you know any saudis personally

i did not go off thread..you did wiht your personal hatred of saudis

thats not a\ very islamic attitutde

and your siganture os HATE IS TAUGHt

well you certainly have alot of hate
 

islamirama

www.netmuslims.com
As I said before, if you want to discuss this then open another thread. I posted a link in response to someone and it is you who is deviating from the thread.
 
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