WHY DO INDIAN MUSLIMS FOLLOW VEDAS MORE THAN QURAN

islamirama

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Zaheer Khan prays at Saibaba temple

Manveer Saini - Jun 2, 2011


SHIRDI: Cricketer Zaheer Khan paid obeisance at the Samadhi mandir of Shri Shirdi Saibaba temple here on Thursday evening.

Accompanied by friends, Zaheer Khan stayed in the sansthan for around one hour. After offering prayers at Samadhi mandir, Khan went towards Dwarkamai and Chawdi before being facilitated by the trust with prasad and a gold coin as blessings of Shri Shirdi Saibaba.

"Though
his blessings are always with me and our team all the times. But, yes I don't have words to express my feelings while being in the complex, especially at Samadhi mandir,'' Khan, who hails from Shri Rampur village here, said.

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These type of "Muslims" in India don't commit acts of kufr over night. As the picture below makes it evident it starts from early age when their parents let them practice kuffr instead of teaching them about Islam.

In the picture below is an Indian Muslim woman wearing niqab herself yet has her son dressed like Krishna (hindu idol god). When these type of parents teach these kind of things to their children then it's no surprise to expect these children to grow up to take part in kufr practices, and the parents will have to answer for this on the Day of Judgment.

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lovefordeen

Junior Member
but please dont say "the people are pure"...some are alhamdulilah ;and saying that "they dont do these things in saudi"...sadly,some do..

assalaamu alaikum

dear brothers and sisters ,please note that i never meant that muslims do shirk in saudi....alhamdulilah,they dont......i was talking about some people spending lots of money on weddings like the sister said what happens in india and some people being racist;not about shirk[/B....:astag:

alhamdulilah,saudi is a country where shirk is not allowed...and i'm very happy about that...:)the supermarkets shut down at prayer times so that the men attend the prayers in congregation during those times ;and not wander around....:mashallah:..where else do you find such a wonderful thing...:hearts:

and women are not allowed to clothe imodestly and walk around...so thats another plus point...

i was just asking the sister not to blame the ummah only in one country,and deny that lavish weddings and mixed dancings does happen in her country as well.....

it is true that some muslims in arabia are racist towards the south asian workers....but not all...alhamdulilah,you'll find the best of people here too:hearts:arabs are very helpful people..
i was raised in saudi...and let me tell u,i didnt find any one being racist towars me..ahamdulilah....i had very friendly masri and yemeni neighbours....i still miss them..

it is an islamic country and is the best of countries you can live:SMILY252:..i love saudi more than my own country as it is a muslim country :mashallah: ;and mine is not...there are less influences from the kuffar...
but there are some arab muslims who dont feel very good about south asian muslims...it is true that some;let me tell you;only some;treat their helpers very badly and some are not paid their wages:astag:...there are some people who treat the white man better ..some;but not all..

it is very unislamic for tha brother to call people dogs and kuffar........because let me tell you,most saudis are deeni..and a muslim should not be so hateful towards other muslims nor call any muslim kafir..:astag::

brothers and sisters,i pray to Allah swt for our ummah to become oner !!!!!and not to be divided on the basis of nationality,ethnicity or colour...and not to mention poliltical affilation...ameen:tti_sister:

so next time we see a muslim;lets say 'assalaamu alaikum'...
and mingle with muslims from all over the world..and not just from 'my country'...lets help each other,e friends with each other...

lets no forget the rights of a muslim over another which our beloved prophet muhammed saws taught us..

“Six are the rights of a Muslim over another Muslim.

It was said to him: Allah’s Messenger, what are these?

Thereupon he said:

When you meet him, offer him greetings,

when he invites you to a feast accept it,

when he seeks your council give him,

and when he sneezes and says:” All praise is due to Allah,” you say Yarhamuk Allah (may Allah show mercy to you)

and when he fails ill visit him; and when he dies follow his bier.


[Sahih Muslim]


sorry for deviating from the topic friends,but it hurt me when the brother abused saudis....

may Alah forgive me if i have said something wrong...

assalaamu alaikum
 

esperanza

revert of many years
cursing a muslim

Abu dharr narrated that the messenger of Allah PBUH said

'no one should call a person a kafir,,,,, if that person is free from such allegations it will return to the person who accused him of it'
 

strive-may-i

Junior Member

Answer is NO.

Indian Muslims do not follow former. There are cultural influences, correct. There are religious influences correct. Yes like in any other place, there are people who are totally ignorant. Thats possible. But follow the former No. Because, I read from other sources, most hindus themselves do not follow, then why would a Muslim??
 

strive-may-i

Junior Member
Isn't the title a bit off from reality?

The thread title has a statement, that's incorrect. Sounds like saying the opposite of Every Muslim is enlightened. Its more sensational like the flash news that attention grabbing TV/ newspapers use. Avoid it.

Has the one who made the thread read the former scripture offlate? Most hindus dont follow, then why would a Muslim? And Yes a Muslim is not supposed to read the former scriptures, and strive to stick to shariah, agreed. But to come up with a title, thats incorrect, does not help. Nope its not controversial its full wrong.

In any given population, there always will be sample cases for one to take up and highlight. And should the generalization be done from sample cases, now thats sign of impatience. No not just sign of impatience, its also a sign of IGNORANCE, of INDIFFERENCE, of INEPTITUDE and hence, useless. (Now does the tone of this paragraph sound harsh? am sorry. But I want to get you into a thinking mode. )

AVOID them, the best of leaders do. Avoid them, I wish to myself and hence I request you to. Because there is a better way to put your thoughts, your questions and be more enlightened and more effective in driving home your point.

A title like "Are SubContinent Muslims influenced by Vedas " could have been better. Nope dont think the Bangladesh or Pakistan are better either.

Hope that helps.
 

islamirama

www.netmuslims.com
Abu dharr narrated that the messenger of Allah PBUH said

'no one should call a person a kafir,,,,, if that person is free from such allegations it will return to the person who accused him of it'

I dare you and others to show me where on this thread any one called a Muslim a kuffar. I called your in-laws dogs cuz they act like one, no one called them kuffars.
 

esperanza

revert of many years
I dare you and others to show me where on this thread any one called a Muslim a kuffar. I called your in-laws dogs cuz they act like one, no one called them kuffars.

maybe i read one line...wrong ..but you said infested with kaffars ok u mean the amerinas i take it..you alled them worst muslims in the world....
you have no right to judge

AND THEY ARE NOT MY INLAWS ..but even they are not..waht gives you the right or belief that you have right to call saudis dogs
 

islamirama

www.netmuslims.com
maybe i read one line...wrong ..but you said infested with kaffars ok u mean the amerinas i take it..you alled them worst muslims in the world....
you have no right to judge

AND THEY ARE NOT MY INLAWS ..but even they are not..waht gives you the right or belief that you have right to call saudis dogs

I was refering to the kuffars they invite to the gulf. Did Prophet (s.a.w) not expel and forbid all kuffars to inside of ALL of arabia peninsula? yet we see kuffars living and attempting to build churches in saudi. If there's anyone the saudi treat better than themselves, its the white kuffars. Who has no self worth, you expect me to call them any less? A dog has more self respect than that.

What gives me the right? What gives you the right to defend torturers, rapists and murders who hide behind their jahilayah arabism and so called "islamic" system that defends them.

As i said before, if you really want to defend your in-laws then go open another thread, stop derailing this thread.
 

esperanza

revert of many years
I was refering to the kuffars they invite to the gulf. Did Prophet (s.a.w) not expel and forbid all kuffars to inside of ALL of arabia peninsula? yet we see kuffars living and attempting to build churches in saudi. If there's anyone the saudi treat better than themselves, its the white kuffars. Who has no self worth, you expect me to call them any less? A dog has more self respect than that.

What gives me the right? What gives you the right to defend torturers, rapists and murders who hide behind their jahilayah arabism and so called "islamic" system that defends them.

As i said before, if you really want to defend your in-laws then go open another thread, stop derailing this thread.
i am not you started the attack....and UNDERSTAND ENGLISH THEY ARE NOT MY INLAWSSS
 

islamirama

www.netmuslims.com
i am not you started the attack....and UNDERSTAND ENGLISH THEY ARE NOT MY INLAWSSS

I commented someone on what they thought of the arabs, you went all defensive about your in -laws. And you continue to linger on this topic, even bringing hadith about calling Muslims kaffir with your misunderstanding of what I wrote. Maybe you should understand your mother tongue better?
 

esperanza

revert of many years
I commented someone on what they thought of the arabs, you went all defensive about your in -laws. And you continue to linger on this topic, even bringing hadith about calling Muslims kaffir with your misunderstanding of what I wrote. Maybe you should understand your mother tongue better?

you should understand english ..not my inlaws
 

esperanza

revert of many years
and no kaffars were not banned from all arabian peninsula..but from mecca and medina

something confuses me ..you have such hate of kaffars yet chosse to live among them
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
Assalamu'alaykum wa rahmatullaah,

Stop insulting each other and making personal remarks about each others family members, or even alluding to insults, this is highly immature and un-Islaamic.

If this continues the thread will just have to be closed - I don't like doing that, honestly.
 

islamirama

www.netmuslims.com
and no kaffars were not banned from all arabian peninsula..but from mecca and medina

They were banned from Makkah and Madinah because of their treachery and breaking of treaties with the Muslims. Later command was given to expel all non-Muslims from the Arabian Peninsula.

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded that the Jews be expelled from the Arabian Peninsula, and said that no two religions should co-exist in the Arabian Peninsula. This is a shari ruling. It is not permissible for any mushrik to remain there.

The Prophet on his death-bed, gave three orders saying, "Expel the pagans from the Arabian Peninsula [Sahih Bukhari 4:52:288]

and

I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim. [Sahih Muslim 19:4366]


something confuses me ..you have such hate of kaffars yet chosse to live among them

I don't hate all kaffars, only those who are enemies of Islam. Other kuffars have goodness in them and the potential to be good Muslims inshallah, given the right dawah.

To answer your question, a non-arab has more freedom, safety and protection here than he does in gulf arab. Here I can get justice against any wrong done to me by local citizen, in arab land i can expect the opposite.

you should understand english ..not my inlaws

You don't even need to understand english to figure out that maybe i'm saying it on purpose, can't believe your a teacher and still can't catch on?
 

strive-may-i

Junior Member
We always have options,
either
climb up the high ground of language and rub another wrongly, in heat of argument...​
Or
Be humble step down , explain it in a manner other understands more and misunderstand less.​

Choice mate :)
 
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