animali in casa...

umomarskate

Junior Member
quali animali domestici un musulmano puo' avere in casa? un'amica vorrebbe regalare un cucciolo a mio figlio ma se non sbaglio se tocco un cane devo lavarmi le mani per 70 volte.....mi sembra di aver letto qualcosa del genere anni fa...
 

um muhammad al-mahdi

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:salam2: sorella,

questi hadith sono in inglese, purtroppo non ho avuto tempo di tradurlo,ma penso sia facile da capire:

Sayyidna Abu Talha (Radhiyallaahu Ánhu) reports that Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam) said, "Angels do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or an animate picture. (Sahih Bukhari Hadith no. 2986)

Sayyidna Ibn Abbas (Radhiyallaahu Ánhuma) reports from Sayyidna Maimoona (Radhiyallaahu Ánha) that once Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam) became sad; and said that Jibra'eel (Álayhis Salaam) promised to meet him at night but did not turn up. "By Allah what has kept him back," said the Prophet (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam). Then he realised a puppy was under his bed. He ordered that the puppy be removed and the area be sprinkled with water. In the afternoon when Jibra'eel (Álayhi Salaam) came, Rasulullah (Sallallaaahu Álayhi Wasallam) enquired as to the delay. Jibra'eel (Álayhi Salaam) said that we, the group of Angels do not enter a house wherein there is a dog or pictures. (Sahih Muslim Hadith no.3928)


Io cmq so che quando si tocca un cane bisogna fare ghusl. Mai sentita la storia di lavarsi le mani "70" volte. Cerchero' prove cmq insh'Allah
 

Abdullah1980

Junior Member
:salam2:

Se ho letto bene è proibito avere un cane perchè gli angeli non entrano in una casa dove ci sono queste creature. Ho una gatta. Dovrei sbarazzarmene ?.

:salah:
 

Aisha muslima

Junior Member
Salam alaykum, no, Stefano, puoi tenerla tranquillamente. Solamente il cane non si può tenere in casa, e neppure un animale abituato a vivere in libertà (perchè lo si farebbe soffrire). C' era un Compagno del Profeta, pace e benedizioni su lui, che amava particolarmente i gatti e ne possedeva molti se non ricordo male. Abu Huraira era il suo nome, che significa "il padre della gattina", ed era chiamato così proprio per il suo affetto verso queste creature.

Quindi un bel gattino per tuo figlio sarebbe l' ideale, che fa anche tanta compagnia, sorella umm Umar :)

Salam alaykum.
 

carolino2

New Member
:lol:salam aleikum,non sono70 volte ma 7.ultimamente su al -jazira honno fatto un reportage su questo e hanno detto che secondo studi medici ancora dopo 7 volte che e' stato lavato un capo toccato da un cane resistono ancora i microbi lasciati da una leccata o un zampata. a testimonianza della veridicita' della sunna.ALLAH AKBAR.anche perche` ricordo il figlio di una sorella che mi disse:"quando tocco un canedopo la mamma mi deve fare la doccia sette volte e lei si arrabbia!.sara:hearts:
 

um muhammad al-mahdi

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:salam2: sorella,

riguardo alle "7" volte io ho trovato questo:

""If a dog drinks from the vessel of any one of you, let him wash it seven times" (reported by Muslim, no. 279). According to another report: ". . . and clean it the eighth time with earth." (Saheeh Muslim, no. 280)."

In questo hadith si riferiscono all'oggetto,non alla persona. Cerchero' altre prove al riguardo insh'Allah!
 

aicha76

New Member
w immmmmmmmmmmmmm

:muslim_child:io amo gli animali ma secondo me se vogliam un cagnolino è meglio aver un bel giardino:hearts::lol::lol::lol:
 

Abdullah1980

Junior Member
:salam2:

Chi non ha il giardino però almeno un gattino dovrebbe averlo...non fosse altro per far contenti i propri bambini :lol:.

:salah:
 

Ismail Albani

Tasfiyah wa Tarbiyah
:salam2:

Anche io so che il lavare riguarda gli oggetti con i quali ti cibi, e non le persone. Per esempio, se un cane mi lecca i pantaloni o lo tocco nel suo corpo (a parte che li evito), so che in questi casi non sono obbligato a lavar qualcosa per poter pregare ecc.

Wa Allahu Ta'ala Alam.

:salam2:
 

Aisha muslima

Junior Member
Salam alaykum, però se un cane ci lecca dobbiamo rifare l' wudu. Per il gatto questo non vale, solo per il cane. Salam alaykum.
 

Ismail Albani

Tasfiyah wa Tarbiyah
:wasalam:

Io non l'ho letto da nessuna parte che tra le cose che annullano l'wudu, è anche il leccare del cane. Tu dove l'hai letto sorella? :)

:salam2:
 

um muhammad al-mahdi

لا اله الا الله محمد رسول الله
Staff member
:salam2:

io ho trovato questo:

Keeping a dog, touching it and kissing it

Question:
Keeping a dog is najis & - If a muslim man keep dog just to guard the house, outside the house - put the dog at the end of the compound, how should he cleans himself, what if he cannot find any earth or mud to clean himself, is there other alternative way of cleaning himself? [sometime, he take the dog for jogging, pat the dog, kiss the dog etc] .

Answer:
Praise be to Allaah.

Firstly:

Islam forbids Muslims to keep dogs, and the punishment for that is that the one who does that loses one or two qiraats from his hasanaat (good deeds) each day. An exception has been made in the case of keeping dogs for hunting, guarding livestock and guarding crops.

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever keeps a dog, except a dog for herding, hunting or farming, one qiraat will be deducted from his reward each day.” Narrated by Muslim, 1575.

It was narrated that ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever keeps a dog, except a dog for herding livestock or a dog that is trained for hunting, two qiraats will be deducted from his reward each day.” Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 5163; Muslim, 1574.

Is it permissible to keep a dog to guard houses?

Al-Nawawi said:

There is a difference of opinion as to whether it is permissible to keep dogs for purposes other than these three, such as for guarding houses and roads. The most correct view is that it is permissible, by analogy with these three and based on the reason that is to be understood from the hadeeth, which is necessity. End quote.

Sharh Muslim, 10/236

Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

Based on this, if a house is in the middle of the city there is no need to keep a dog to guard it, so keeping a dog for this purpose in such situations is haraam and is not permitted, and it detracts one or two qiraats from a person’s reward every day. They should get rid of this dog and not keep it. But if the house is in the countryside and there is no one else around, then it is permissible to keep a dog to guard the house and the people who are in it; guarding the members of the household is more important than guarding livestock or crops. End quote.

Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 4/246

There are several scholarly views about reconciling the reports which say “one qiraat” and those which say “two qiraats”.

Al-Haafiz al-‘Ayni (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

(a) It may be that they have to do with two types of dogs, one of which could cause more harm than the other.

(b) It was said that “two qiraats” applies in cities and villages, and “one qiraat” applies in the countryside.

(c) It was said that they were said at two different times – “one qiraat” was mentioned first, then the warning was made more strict and two qiraats were mentioned.

‘Umdat al-Qaari, 12/158.

Secondly:

With regard to the words of the questioner, “keeping a dog is naajis”. This is not exactly correct, because the najaasah (impurity) is not in the dog itself, rather it is in its saliva when it drinks from a vessel. If a person touches a dog or a dog touches him, that does not mean that he has to purify himself, whether with soil or water. But if a dog drinks from his vessel, then he has to throw away the water and wash it seven times with water and the eighth time with soil, if he wants to use it. If he makes it just for the dog then he does not have to purify it.

It was narrated from Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) that the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The purification of the vessel of one of you, if a dog licks it, is to wash it seven times, the first time with soil.” Nararted by Muslim, 279.

And according to another report by Muslim (280): “If a dog licks the vessel of one of you, let him wash it seven times and rub it with soil the eighth time.”

Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

With regard to dogs, there are three views among the scholars:

1 – That they are taahir (pure), even their saliva. This is the view of Maalik.

2 – That they are naajis (impure), even their hair. This is the view of al-Shaafa’i and is one of the two views narrated from Ahmad.

3 – Their hair is taahir but their saliva is naajis. This is the view of Abu Haneefah and of Ahmad in the other report narrated from him.

This is the most correct view. So if the wetness of the dog’s hair gets onto one’s garment or body, that does not make it naajis. End quote.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 21/530.

Elsewhere he said:

That is because the basic principle is that substances are taahir, and it is not permissible to regard anything as naajis or haraam without evidence, as Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):

“while He has explained to you in detail what is forbidden to you, except under compulsion of necessity?”

[al-An’aam 6:119]

“And Allaah will never lead a people astray after He has guided them until He makes clear to them as to what they should avoid”

[al-Tawbah 9:115]

The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The purification of the vessel of one of you, if a dog licks it, is to wash it seven times, the first time with soil” – and in another hadeeth, “If a dog licks a vessel…” All of the ahaadeeth mention licking only; they do not mention any other part of the dog, regarding them as naajis is based only on analogy.

Moreover, the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) granted a concession allowing people to keep dogs for hunting, herding and farming. The one who keeps them must touch the wetness of their hair, just as happens in the case of mules, donkeys, etc. To suggest that their hair is naajis when touching them cannot be avoided could impose undue hardship, which is not what the Lawgiver intended for this ummah.

Majmoo’ al-Fataawa, 21/217, 218

To be on the safe side it is better, if a person touches a dog and there is something wet on his hand, or if there is something wet on the dog, to wash his hand seven times, one of which should be with soil. Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen said:

With regard to touching this dog, if there is no wetness then it does not make the hand naajis, but if he touches it and there is any wetness, then this means that the hand becomes naajis according to the view of many scholars, and the hand must be washed after that seven times, one of which should be with soil. End quote.

Majmoo’ Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 11/246.

Thirdly:

With regard to the way in which purification from the najaasah of a dog is to be done, this has been explained in the answer to question no. 41090 and 46314.

What must be done is to wash off the najaasah of a dog seven times, one of which should be with soil. If soil is available then it must be used, and nothing else will do. If no soil is available, then there is nothing wrong with using some other cleaning agent such as soap.

Fourthly:

What the questioner mentions about kissing the dog is something that causes many diseases. The diseases that people may get as the result of going against sharee’ah by kissing dogs or drinking from their vessels before purifying them are many, such as pasturella which is a bacterial disease, the cause of which exists naturally in the respiratory systems of humans and animals, but under certain circumstances this germ can invade the body and cause disease.

Another of these diseases is a parasitic disease that affects the intestines of humans and animals, and usually affects the liver and lungs, the abdominal cavity and the rest of the body.

This disease is caused by tapeworms, which are small worms 2-9 millimeters long, which are formed of three sections, a head and a neck; the head has four suckers.

The adult worms live in the intestines of their hosts, such as dogs, cats, crows and wolves.

This disease is transmitted to human who love dogs, when they kiss them or drink from their vessels.

See: Amraad al-hayawaanaat allati tuseeb al-insaan (Animal diseases that affect humans) by Dr. ‘Ali Ismaa’eel ‘Ubayd al-Snaafi.

Conclusion:

It is not permissible to keep dogs except for hunting or guarding livestock and crops, and it is permissible to keep them for guarding houses so long as that is outside the city and that there is no other means of guarding the house. The Muslim should not imitate the kuffaar by running with the dog or touching its mouth and kissing it, which causes many diseases.

Praise be to Allaah for this pure and perfect sharee’ah, which came to set people’s spiritual and worldly affairs straight, but most people do not realize.

And Allaah knows best.

Islam Q&A
 

Aisha muslima

Junior Member
:salam2:

fratello, me lo avevano detto più persone, forse basandosi sull' opinione postata dalla sorella Ukht1 di Abu Hanifa e Ahmed, che considerano la saliva del cane impura. Wa Allahu alam. Se qualcuno riesce ad informarsi meglio, farà un favore a tutti :)

Jazakum Allahu khairan, salam alaykum
 

Ismail Albani

Tasfiyah wa Tarbiyah
:salam2:

Io mi son interessato ancora e mi hanno confermato la stessa cosa che ho detto all'inizio. Questa domanda glielo avevo fatto quasi due anni fa ad un fratello che ha più di una decina d'anni che studia nei paesi musulmani sulla Shari'a ecc. E adesso glielo chiesto ad un altro uguale al primo nei studi ma che non c'entrano nulla l'uno con l'altro, e mi ha detto la stessa cosa.

Wa Allahu Ta'ala Alam.

:salam2:
 

Ismail Albani

Tasfiyah wa Tarbiyah
:wasalam:

Sorella, rifare l'wudu non c'entra nulla, anche se ti sporchi con qualche altra impurezza. Il dubbio era se si può pregare senza pulire il vestito o anche la mano dalla saliva del cane. Così, se ti sporchi con le altre impurezze che conosciamo: l'wudu è ancora valido ma devi pulire la parte sporca per poter pregare. :)

Wa Allahu Ta'ala Alam, di nuovo.

:salam2:
 

assyuara

Junior Member
assalamualaikum!

just wanna ask..what does "animali in casa" means?
does that means animals in ....something? just asking out of curiosity lol. Heheh. wassalam.
 

Ismail Albani

Tasfiyah wa Tarbiyah
:salam2:

Vorrei aggiungere, per non fraintenderci, che sulla questione ci sono anche opinioni differenti.

L'opinione che mi hanno detto è quello che ritengono il più valido quei fratelli, cioè, l'opinione di imam Malik, rahimahullah, e di molti altri imam, che ritengono che l'impurezza della saliva a che fare quando il cane ci lecca i piatti, tazze ecc.
Cioè, chi pretende che la mano o i vestiti diventano impuri dalla saliva del cane deve venire con un argomento chiaro.

Invece una buona parte dei sapienti (forse la maggioranza) ritiene che se ti lecca un cane bisogna lavare la parte leccata: alcuni dicono che bisogna lavarla 7 volte, cioè la prima con la terra bagnata poi sei con acqua, invece altri dicono che anche se non usi la terra bagnata fa niente.

Invece di rifare l'wudu non l'ho sentito da nessuno.

Wa Allahu Alam.
:salam2:
 
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