Are women allowed to work?

lilmuslimah

Junior Member
Salam all.........

I would be grateful if someone could clear up my confusion up for me,

I keep reading that a women is allowed to work if there is no free mixing between males,

I do understand the dangers involved with free mixing and i dont think islam should be changed to suit the '21st century' however there are a few factors i cant get me head round...........

firstly pretty much every job going ( that requires you to leave the home) will be a job role which if not all the time some of the time you will be mixing with males?

It is widely agreed that the ummah need muslim female doctors nurses, teachers, counsellors, phychologists etc but before you can be a specialist in any of the areas you must be a generalist?

There are no countries that have ANY kind of shariah based system in place that provides women with benifits if she doesn't have someone to provide for her, and even when THERE IS males in her family to provide for her generalyl speaking THEY dont ( ie brothers cousin uncles fathers etc) i mean how many times have you seen a brother bunging you a couple of hundred to get yourself a new wardrobe because you've worn out your clothes and shoes??

and lets say they do..........
supporting someone financially isnt just giving them a couple of quid when all their clothes have holes in them its supporting them to the point where they have financial freedom to NOT have to work.

wasn't hazrat aisha a bizz ness women a real famous successful one at that! was she conducting her bissness from
inside a cardboard box??? i severly doubt that.

There are laws now in workplaces and if a male collegee is bothering you its called harrassment and will be dealt with by any proffesional company.

furthermore we know that men are generally the 'weaker' sex is it allowed for them to work in an environment that is mixed????? because that just makes no sense??

if my thinking is wrong i ask the brothers and sisters of the forum to assist me in changing my thinking to understand

jazakallah.
 

Hopetogoparadis

Junior Member
This might be my own view but i am sure there might be a lot of Muslims who would agree on this;

Of course we may do need women nurses, doctors, teachers... Because as male Muslims needs such services in these areas, female Muslims need it as well. So when you wanna take your wife to hospital, of course you would like her to be treated by Muslim women doctors. Or if you wanna send your daughter to school, you would like her to be taught by Muslim female teachers, not men. Am I wrong ?

BUT today what i see is; women are working EVERYWHERE regardless of need.

I mean, what would be need for a women to work in business company ?

What would be need for a women to work in secretary services of MALE bosses ?

Do you understand what i mean ?

When i go out, i see lots of women going work and most of them are not doctors or teachers or anything. They just go and work mixed with all males and Allah knows better but i dont think they really have any benefit to Muslim society.

AND i was listening a lecture and i heard, non muslim scholars expressed that when WOMEN got out of their houses in last century and went to work areas, ADULTERY took places soooo much more than before. But many people can not understand this. They say ''oooh, i am covered, so no problem''

Do you think it really works that way ?

You still need to talk all time with males and be around them so this is really opening dooors to fitnah.

But still...These are my observations and i am not saying ''women can not work, its haram'' but i hope you understand what is the point : )
 

saifkhan

abd-Allah
As salam älaykum warahamtu-llah


barakAllahu feekum
There are no countries that have ANY kind of shariah based system in place that provides women with benifits if she doesn't have someone to provide for her, and even when THERE IS males in her family to provide for her generalyl speaking THEY dont ( ie brothers cousin uncles fathers etc) i mean how many times have you seen a brother bunging you a couple of hundred to get yourself a new wardrobe because you've worn out your clothes and shoes??

and lets say they do..........
supporting someone financially isnt just giving them a couple of quid when all their clothes have holes in them its supporting them to the point where they have financial freedom to NOT have to work.
perfect things, you have pointed out about current situations and well said.


wasn't hazrat aisha a bizz ness women a real famous successful one at that! was she conducting her bissness from
inside a cardboard box??? i severly doubt that.
that was before Islam, after the marriage of prophet Muhammad salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam, he salla Allahu alayhi wa sallam used to look after and take care. even before marriage, he used to go and visit different place as her representative, radhi Allahu anha.

i hope that islam qa will help you.

I pray that things get easy for my sisters around the world and for that we brothers have to work, a lot.
to grow our community, to grow our identity to build our responsibility towards others.

barakAllahu feekum

wassalamun äalayka
 

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
salam aleikum

You mean maybe Khadija ? I dont think Aisha was te business woman you speek about dear sister..:shymuslima1: may Allah keep them under His mercy.

wasn't hazrat aisha a bizz ness women a real famous successful one at that! was she conducting her bissness from
inside a cardboard box??? i severly doubt that.
 

*pink niqaabi*

Junior Member
Assalaamu alaikum sister Hajjerr is right, Khadijah was the business woman not Aisha (may Allah be pleased with them).

Have any muslimahs ever considered being self employed...? That way everything is under your control inshallah in terms of what you do and who you mix with. Thats what im planning to get into inshallah.

And there are many sectors you could consider being self employed and providing services for other Muslimahs like:

Hairdressing, Beauty, Henna, Dressmaking, Cupping, Babysitting, Private cleaning, private teaching etc etc...

If you really have determination and a strong resolve to avoid any haram atmospheres at work, you can do it inshallah
 

*pink niqaabi*

Junior Member
and (personally) i think it sounds much cooler to tell someone you're an entrepeneur than working for someone else! pretty good dawah too to non-muslim females who think we can't do things for ourselves...
 

lilmuslimah

Junior Member
yes of course khadija not aisha my bad.

but males are generally the weaker sex how is it they are allowed to work around females it just makes NO sense even if you eradicate all muslim women from society you still have non muslim women EVERYWHERE LOL.

someone said that muslim women in workplaces can lead to adultery, yeah not the ones that fear allah.

if a person wants to commit adultery they will even if they are a sit at home mommy.

not everyone can start there own bissness actually quite ridiculous comment, babysitting a bit here and there wouldnt be an adequate source of income, cleaner where??? lol

The problem is that muslim states countries have failed women and now are making these rules which are actually unreasonable quite,

reading the islamic q and a yes we love for our women to be doctors but as long as they dont touch men?????

hellllloooo loool that made me laugh

is it ok for men to touch women then???? bizzare state of affairs really.........................

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al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
Assalamu'alaykum,

wasn't hazrat aisha a bizz ness women a real famous successful one at that! was she conducting her bissness from
inside a cardboard box??? i severly doubt that.
Ofcourse you mean Khadeejah radiAllah anha, yes she was a successful business woman and she worked and that's a nice example.

Note though, our rules came in stages and one thing that may have been permitted without much question in the early days of Islaam, may have by the end of Rasulullaah (s)'s life, changed and become dependent on specific factors and contexts.

There are laws now in workplaces and if a male collegee is bothering you its called harrassment and will be dealt with by any proffesional company.
Most of the time harrassment is passed off as 'harmless flirtation', then when things end up seriously messed up people wonder how it got so bad ..it was rotten to begin with!

Whatever, 'professional companies' cannot fix broken families and damaged lives, however pro they consider themselves to be.

BUT today what i see is; women are working EVERYWHERE regardless of need.
I agree with your points.

yes of course khadija not aisha my bad.

but males are generally the weaker sex how is it they are allowed to work around females it just makes NO sense even if you eradicate all muslim women from society you still have non muslim women EVERYWHERE LOL.

Islaam perscribed roles of men and women; their primary roles are clear and on the basic level, the bottom line is that the men are expected to provide for his wife/family financially and pick up that resonsibility, this is not part of the role of the female, the female has the primary role of raising the children and being a homemaker.

This is why it is senseless to ban men from working on the basis that women are present in the workplace, rather, from an Islaamic persepective this would prevent men from fulfilling a basic duty they owe to their families, it makes far more sense to tell the women to not be there since this is not a necessity for them, they are not answerable for not providing for their family in this way.

There are exceptions, as with most things.

someone said that muslim women in workplaces can lead to adultery, yeah not the ones that fear allah.

if a person wants to commit adultery they will even if they are a sit at home mommy.
I hear what you say, that if a person intends to commit haraam they can do so and there is essentially nothing to prevent them except fear of Allaah, however, women who work are often in places that are a lot more accessible to others, there is a lot more communication and interaction between genders etc and this provides a lot more opportunity for haraam to take place, this is an undeniable fact.

A person who is not in the same physical place where haraam can easily occur, this is a blessing from Allaah in of itself.

not everyone can start there own bissness actually quite ridiculous comment, babysitting a bit here and there wouldnt be an adequate source of income, cleaner where??? lol
If there is a special case where a woman is required to work, this isn't forbidden, but the rules of gender interaction apply.

The problem is that muslim states countries have failed women and now are making these rules which are actually unreasonable quite,

reading the islamic q and a yes we love for our women to be doctors but as long as they dont touch men?????

hellllloooo loool that made me laugh
You seem bitter, I don't know why though.
is it ok for men to touch women then???? bizzare state of affairs really.........................
Ofcourse it's not.

:salam2:
please try to type the name of ALLAH with capitol letters.

JazaakaLLAH
:wasalam:

There is no obligation to write the name of Allah in all capital letters.

Wa-salam
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

Let me put it this way:

In the US we have reached a meltdown. The number of homeless people is astounding. And the reason is greed. The false economy told the people that they needed two incomes to survive. No, people just got greedy.

I am not going to address all the social ills. I would still be typing and the Angel of Death would come knocking.

But, and this is a little but, if some of the families would understand that we live in excess and not in need; if women who could afford to stay home and raise families half the ills would dissipate.

We have substituted the word work for money. If we take a moment to understand that Islam does not limit the role of a woman to being housebound we can see a broader perspective. Charity.

As for sexual harassment on the job. It happens to the best of us. It happens in subtle to the most glaring of scenarios. Do not for one minute think laws do anything. A woman is always the underdog and there is that unspoken rule: she deserved it. Your raises are thrown out of the window. You reach the ceiling very quickly. The good ole boys still rule.

Islam has answers for us. We just have to learn to apply the basics to our lives.
 

Itqan Ullah

Time is Running!!
but males are generally the weaker sex how is it they are allowed to work around females it just makes NO sense even if you eradicate all muslim women from society you still have non muslim women EVERYWHERE LOL.

When Allah (swt) appointed them different responsibilities, you should try to understand the wisdom behind that. What you said is right from one perspective and wrong from other..ERR.. Or I should say a right observation with a wrong conclusion. Now see how beautiful this is, women generally have more patience than men, probably thats why if you compare the no. Of times who changed the diaper of child, around 90% time it would be mother, when a child starts crying many-many times father will just hand it over to mother "TAKE YOUR SON" or "take your daughter" as if he/she isn't his son/daughter, but at that moment it becomes 'your' coz he/she is crying. Lol. But if you take a proffession like army, you can realize that really isn't a job suitable for women.

Regarding non-muslim women who are working, I'll say thats the place where men should exercise their hijab and islamic ettiquetes.

someone said that muslim women in workplaces can lead to adultery, yeah not the ones that fear allah.

have you read the story of women at time of prophet (pbuh) who wanted herself stoned coz she had commited adultery? Did she not fear Allah (swt)?
 

Precious Star

Junior Member
Assalamu'alaykum,

Islaam perscribed roles of men and women; their primary roles are clear and on the basic level, the bottom line is that the men are expected to provide for his wife/family financially and pick up that resonsibility, this is not part of the role of the female, the female has the primary role of raising the children and being a homemaker.

Wa-salam

the primary role of a woman is NOT to raise children and be a homemaker.

There are millions of Muslim women who are not married and no kids. Are you saying they have no role?

If a woman is married, then her role maybe to take care of kids and home. But that is ONLY if a woman is married.

Islam is universal. we can't make sweeping generalizations that don't apply to all Muslims.

Women have many roles to play. Islam governs ethics, conduct and morality. So long as a working woman or stay at home woman abides by Islamic rules, working should make no difference. It is NOT axiomatic that if she works she is not abide by Islamic rules.

The reality is, many Muslim men, fathers, brothers, husbands, parents, etc do not follow Islamic guidance when it comes to their women, leaving woman no choice but to work. Some women have o work because tat is their only source of meeting people and interacting with society at large. Many many women. Eed to work in order to buy food, clothes, bus tickets, gas, medicine, books, things for their home, etc. nothing in this word is free. Nothing. If a woman wants to get married, a wedding usually costs some money (and Im not talking about a big fancy expensive wedding...just a simple one, but all brides like to wear a beautiful dress, invite their friends, have a gathering for lunch or dinner). These things are not free. You need o work to acquire money .
 

Hajjerr

He is Dhul-Jalali Wal-Ikram
salam aleikum wa rahmatulahy wa barakatuh

From what i read on this thread, my conclusion is that there is a fine line separation between role of wife and role of woman, this because not all womans are wifes or mothers.

Islam teaches us the limits but since not all comunities are made from practicing muslims, the whole chain of responsabilities breaks and we have womans that work out of need and so we have men working in mixed places.
What i find very praise worthy are the womans that work in fields where is much need, as doctors, nurses, teachers, for other womans, alhamdullilah.

As for the other fields, we must remember allways - our rewards will be according to our intentions.

“He knows what is in the heavens and on earth; and He knows what you conceal and what you reveal: and Allah knows well the secrets of all hearts.” (Surat at-Taghabun, 64:4)

“Whether you hide your word or publish it. He certainly has full knowledge of the secrets of all hearts. He is the One that understands the finest mysteries and is well-acquainted with them.” (Surat al-Mulk, 67:13-14)

And Allah knows best.
:salam2:
 

sabs1164

AmatuLLaH
Assalamu'alaykum,





There is no obligation to write the name of Allah in all capital letters.

Wa-salam[/QUOTE

:salam2:
i did not say its an obligation to write the name of ALLAH in all capital letter. did i?

for those who want to show respect to the name of ALLAH.
ooh maaf i meant with a capital letter.
:wasalam:
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
the primary role of a woman is NOT to raise children and be a homemaker.

There are millions of Muslim women who are not married and no kids. Are you saying they have no role?

If a woman is married, then her role maybe to take care of kids and home. But that is ONLY if a woman is married.

Islam is universal. we can't make sweeping generalizations that don't apply to all Muslims.

Sorry if my terminology offended you, I don't think it matters what you call it, its certainly one of the most basic roles of being female - to raise a family and maintain a home. Call it primary or whatever you like, just because it doesn't apply to you personally doesn't mean you can change the default; the majority of women do get married and they do have this role, so when we're talking 'generally' it makes sense to talk in terms of the most common scenario, not on the basis of a minority.

I can see where this is going, if we want to get so very basic then fine, as a human being our purpose is to worship Allaah and attain Jannah, not to be married, (before someone decides to point out the obvious).

Women have many roles to play. Islam governs ethics, conduct and morality. So long as a working woman or stay at home woman abides by Islamic rules, working should make no difference. It is NOT axiomatic that if she works she is not abide by Islamic rules.
Yeh, great, I don't disagree with you.

The reality is, many Muslim men, fathers, brothers, husbands, parents, etc do not follow Islamic guidance when it comes to their women, leaving woman no choice but to work.
Well yes, ofcourse.

Even if this wasn't the case and she just wanted financial independence and the job she wanted to do was halaal, this isn't forbidden.

Some women have o work because tat is their only source of meeting people and interacting with society at large. Many many women. Eed to work in order to buy food, clothes, bus tickets, gas, medicine, books, things for their home, etc. nothing in this word is free. Nothing. If a woman wants to get married, a wedding usually costs some money (and Im not talking about a big fancy expensive wedding...just a simple one, but all brides like to wear a beautiful dress, invite their friends, have a gathering for lunch or dinner). These things are not free. You need o work to acquire money .
Thanks for that, I am aware, I do happen to live in this dunya too.

It amuses me that I'm replying to this thread 'from work' lol ..

i did not say its an obligation to write the name of ALLAH in all capital letter. did i?

for those who want to show respect to the name of ALLAH.
ooh maaf i meant with a capital letter.
You missed my point which was, don't encourage something that has no basis.

Why is it suddenly 'more respectful' to type Allah's name with all capitals?
 

al-fajr

...ism..schism
Staff member
Assalamu'alaykum,

As for sexual harassment on the job. It happens to the best of us. It happens in subtle to the most glaring of scenarios. Do not for one minute think laws do anything. A woman is always the underdog and there is that unspoken rule: she deserved it. Your raises are thrown out of the window. You reach the ceiling very quickly. The good ole boys still rule.

True, they do rule in most cases but why does this culture of 'she deserved it' actually exist do you think?

Is it because women working undermines them?
 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

In in their culture and rules no matter how intelligent or competent

the woman is she is still a woman. It is a mans world and I do not care what anyone says..it is a mans world.

I have to work. I have worked all my life. I have seen it all. It is a sad state of affairs when a woman has to use her job to protect her. Think about that folks.
 
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