'As A Jew' I'm 'Ashamed'

mahussain3

Son of Aa'ishah(R.A)
'As A Jew' I'm 'Ashamed': Boston Herald representative

Once you have a combat situation and innocent people die, I mean, you know, look at our problems in Afghanistan, and we have an obligation to try and avoid it, Boston Herald, Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) Said.

Israel on Wednesday began deporting the bulk of nearly 700 international activists detained during its deadly raid on an aid flotilla bound for Palestinians in the blockaded, Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.

The raid that ended with Israeli soldiers killing nine activists has strained diplomatic ties, sending Israeli relations with Turkey, in particular, to a new low. At least four of the nine killed were Turkish and the ship Israel attacked was Turkish. Israel ordered families of its diplomats out of that country a day after Turkey branded the raid a "massacre."

Israel also faces significant new levels of criticism within the United States. In an interview with the Boston Herald, Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) said that that "'as a Jew,' Israeli treatment of Arabs around some of the West Bank settlements 'makes me ashamed that there would be Jews that would engage in that kind of victimization of a minority.'"

Frank said, "Once you have a combat situation and innocent people die, I mean, you know, look at our problems in Afghanistan, and we have an obligation to try and avoid it." In defense of Israel, Frank added there are people "howling for Israel to pay a price that don't seem disturbed that North Koreans killed 46 South Koreans by torpedoing a South Korean boat. I think we have a right to ask for some consistency."

Egypt eased its blockade of Gaza after the raid and at the newly opened crossing in the border town of Rafah, about 300 Palestinians entered through Gaza's main gateway to the outside world. A smaller number entered Gaza from Egypt and humanitarian aid also came in including blankets, tents and 13 power generators donated by Russia and Oman.

Magdi al-Titer, a 31-year-old Palestinian among those crossing into Egypt, said he lost his right leg during Israel's brief war with Gaza that ended in January 2009.

"I have come with a medical report to get fitted with an artificial leg in Egypt," he said.

Israel has come under harsh international condemnation after naval commandos stormed the flotilla in international waters on Monday, setting off the deadly clashes. Israel says its soldiers opened fire only after being attacked by angry activists, who said they were trying to breach the blockade of Gaza to bring in aid.

Gaza has been under an Israeli and Egyptian blockade since 2007. Egypt's opening of the border was believed to be temporary, although the government did not say how long it would last.

A corrections official said Israel is aiming to deport all the foreign activists by the end of the day. But there is a possibility some could be held in custody on suspicion of violence against Israeli troops.

Some 400 activists, most of them Turkish citizens, were bused to Israel's international airport for flights home by midday Wednesday.

Corrections department spokesman Yaron Zamir said the Turkish activists would board planes Turkey had sent to pick them up. Greece also had an aircraft on standby there to pick up its activists.

An additional 124 activists from a dozen Muslim nations without diplomatic relations with Israel were deported to Jordan before sunrise. About 100 foreigners remained in a prison in southern Israel by midday, Zamir said.

Several of the activists deported to Jordan told The Associated Press that they were deprived of food, water, sleep and access to toilets in Israeli detention.

"The Israelis roughed up and humiliated all of us - women, men and children," said Kuwaiti lawmaker Walid al-Tabtabai, who was on board one of the ships with other activists from Muslim countries.

"They were brutal and arrogant, but our message reached every corner of the world that the blockade on Gaza is unfair and should be lifted immediately," he added. The lawmaker claimed there "was not a single weapon with the passengers aboard all the ships."

Israel claimed some of the passengers attacked commandos with knives, iron rods, sticks and with two pistols wrested from soldiers.

Video released by the Israeli military showed commandos attacked by angry activists with metal rods and firebombs during the raid. One soldier was thrown off one deck onto another below, and Israeli authorities said its troops were attacked by knives, clubs and live fire from the two pistols wrested from soldiers.

Israeli defense officials have also said, without providing proof, that night vision goggles, gas masks, flak jackets and thousands of dollars were found on the ship, suggesting the possibility that some mercenaries were on board.

Israeli media reported Wednesday that the foreign ministry ordered the families of its diplomats in Turkey to leave that country because of the uproar there over the raid. The diplomatic mission itself would remain in Turkey, said Israel Radio and other stations and newspapers. The ministry would neither confirm nor deny the reports.

The fallout also expanded far from the region's borders. Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said Nicaragua is suspending - though not severing - diplomatic ties with Israel over the raid.

While many Israelis were critical of the way the raid was executed, the overwhelming reaction backed the soldiers' response and supported the Gaza blockade. Israelis have little empathy for the plight of Palestinians in Gaza because militants used the territory to send thousands of rockets and mortars crashing into Israel for years.

The flotilla was meant to draw attention to the Israeli and Egyptian blockade of Gaza, imposed after Hamas militants violently seized power in June 2007. Israel says the blockade is needed to prevent Hamas, which has fired thousands of rockets into the Jewish state, from building up its arsenal. Critics say the closure has failed to hurt Hamas but has damaged Gaza's already weak economy.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton supported a U.N. Security Council statement that condemned the "acts" that cost the lives of the pro-Palestinian activists off the Gaza coast. But U.S. officials did not say whether they blamed Israel or the activists for the bloodshed.

Israel has promised to halt a new attempt by pro-Palestinian groups to sail two more ships to Gaza's shores within the next few days.

Despite the widespread outcry over the violent sea raid, the Palestinians were resuming indirect peace talks with Israel later Wednesday, through U.S. envoy George Mitchell. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas was to meet Mitchell at his headquarters in the West Bank town of Ramallah.
 

arzafar

Junior Member
'As A Jew' I'm 'Ashamed': Boston Herald representative

Once you have a combat situation and innocent people die, I mean, you know, look at our problems in Afghanistan, and we have an obligation to try and avoid it, Boston Herald, Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) Said.

Israel on Wednesday began deporting the bulk of nearly 700 international activists detained during its deadly raid on an aid flotilla bound for Palestinians in the blockaded, Hamas-ruled Gaza Strip.

The raid that ended with Israeli soldiers killing nine activists has strained diplomatic ties, sending Israeli relations with Turkey, in particular, to a new low. At least four of the nine killed were Turkish and the ship Israel attacked was Turkish. Israel ordered families of its diplomats out of that country a day after Turkey branded the raid a "massacre."

Israel also faces significant new levels of criticism within the United States. In an interview with the Boston Herald, Rep. Barney Frank (D-Mass.) said that that "'as a Jew,' Israeli treatment of Arabs around some of the West Bank settlements 'makes me ashamed that there would be Jews that would engage in that kind of victimization of a minority.'"

Frank said, "Once you have a combat situation and innocent people die, I mean, you know, look at our problems in Afghanistan, and we have an obligation to try and avoid it." In defense of Israel, Frank added there are people "howling for Israel to pay a price that don't seem disturbed that North Koreans killed 46 South Koreans by torpedoing a South Korean boat. I think we have a right to ask for some consistency."

Egypt eased its blockade of Gaza after the raid and at the newly opened crossing in the border town of Rafah, about 300 Palestinians entered through Gaza's main gateway to the outside world. A smaller number entered Gaza from Egypt and humanitarian aid also came in including blankets, tents and 13 power generators donated by Russia and Oman.

Magdi al-Titer, a 31-year-old Palestinian among those crossing into Egypt, said he lost his right leg during Israel's brief war with Gaza that ended in January 2009.

"I have come with a medical report to get fitted with an artificial leg in Egypt," he said.

Israel has come under harsh international condemnation after naval commandos stormed the flotilla in international waters on Monday, setting off the deadly clashes. Israel says its soldiers opened fire only after being attacked by angry activists, who said they were trying to breach the blockade of Gaza to bring in aid.

Gaza has been under an Israeli and Egyptian blockade since 2007. Egypt's opening of the border was believed to be temporary, although the government did not say how long it would last.

A corrections official said Israel is aiming to deport all the foreign activists by the end of the day. But there is a possibility some could be held in custody on suspicion of violence against Israeli troops.

Some 400 activists, most of them Turkish citizens, were bused to Israel's international airport for flights home by midday Wednesday.

Corrections department spokesman Yaron Zamir said the Turkish activists would board planes Turkey had sent to pick them up. Greece also had an aircraft on standby there to pick up its activists.

An additional 124 activists from a dozen Muslim nations without diplomatic relations with Israel were deported to Jordan before sunrise. About 100 foreigners remained in a prison in southern Israel by midday, Zamir said.

Several of the activists deported to Jordan told The Associated Press that they were deprived of food, water, sleep and access to toilets in Israeli detention.

"The Israelis roughed up and humiliated all of us - women, men and children," said Kuwaiti lawmaker Walid al-Tabtabai, who was on board one of the ships with other activists from Muslim countries.

"They were brutal and arrogant, but our message reached every corner of the world that the blockade on Gaza is unfair and should be lifted immediately," he added. The lawmaker claimed there "was not a single weapon with the passengers aboard all the ships."

Israel claimed some of the passengers attacked commandos with knives, iron rods, sticks and with two pistols wrested from soldiers.

Video released by the Israeli military showed commandos attacked by angry activists with metal rods and firebombs during the raid. One soldier was thrown off one deck onto another below, and Israeli authorities said its troops were attacked by knives, clubs and live fire from the two pistols wrested from soldiers.

Israeli defense officials have also said, without providing proof, that night vision goggles, gas masks, flak jackets and thousands of dollars were found on the ship, suggesting the possibility that some mercenaries were on board.

Israeli media reported Wednesday that the foreign ministry ordered the families of its diplomats in Turkey to leave that country because of the uproar there over the raid. The diplomatic mission itself would remain in Turkey, said Israel Radio and other stations and newspapers. The ministry would neither confirm nor deny the reports.

The fallout also expanded far from the region's borders. Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said Nicaragua is suspending - though not severing - diplomatic ties with Israel over the raid.

While many Israelis were critical of the way the raid was executed, the overwhelming reaction backed the soldiers' response and supported the Gaza blockade. Israelis have little empathy for the plight of Palestinians in Gaza because militants used the territory to send thousands of rockets and mortars crashing into Israel for years.

The flotilla was meant to draw attention to the Israeli and Egyptian blockade of Gaza, imposed after Hamas militants violently seized power in June 2007. Israel says the blockade is needed to prevent Hamas, which has fired thousands of rockets into the Jewish state, from building up its arsenal. Critics say the closure has failed to hurt Hamas but has damaged Gaza's already weak economy.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton supported a U.N. Security Council statement that condemned the "acts" that cost the lives of the pro-Palestinian activists off the Gaza coast. But U.S. officials did not say whether they blamed Israel or the activists for the bloodshed.

Israel has promised to halt a new attempt by pro-Palestinian groups to sail two more ships to Gaza's shores within the next few days.

Despite the widespread outcry over the violent sea raid, the Palestinians were resuming indirect peace talks with Israel later Wednesday, through U.S. envoy George Mitchell. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas was to meet Mitchell at his headquarters in the West Bank town of Ramallah.

didnt hamas come into power through elections.
 
:salam2: I dont think anything will be done about this. The news will become old in a few weeks and since people here have a short memory this will be forgotten. To make people know what is happenning the news has to be fair and not baised.
 

arzafar

Junior Member
i found it shameful that there were no saudis or iranians representatives on the ships. Oh and the world has neglected far more serious crimes from the state of israel, so this was nothing.
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
i found it shameful that there were no saudis or iranians representatives on the ships. Oh and the world has neglected far more serious crimes from the state of israel, so this was nothing.

:salam2:

Riding on ships with aid, publicizing to the entire world media is not the only way to help our brothers and sisters in Palestine.

Rather it was a 'far from perfect' plan. I doubt if the organizers had even sought any advice from the Ulema.

Before we criticise others, let us just for a minute think 'what have we done ?'

Wasalaaamalykum waa rahmatullahi
 

arzafar

Junior Member
:salam2:

Riding on ships with aid, publicizing to the entire world media is not the only way to help our brothers and sisters in Palestine.

Rather it was a 'far from perfect' plan. I doubt if the organizers had even sought any advice from the Ulema.

Before we criticise others, let us just for a minute think 'what have we done ?'

Wasalaaamalykum waa rahmatullahi

there were 3-4 pakis on board so at least we had some representation.
even the many liberal saudis who reside in the US didnt have any representation. even Kuwaitis were there.
plan might have been poor, but these guys tried to actually offer aid instead of the usual lip service which is practically useless. at least the saudis could have contributed some spare oil to the aid.

The incident helped identify friends and foes and also those who try to make things happen and those who just watch things happen.
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
there were 3-4 pakis on board so at least we had some representation.
even the many liberal saudis who reside in the US didnt have any representation. even Kuwaitis were there.
plan might have been poor, but these guys tried to actually offer aid instead of the usual lip service which is practically useless. at least the saudis could have contributed some spare oil to the aid.

The incident helped identify friends and foes and also those who try to make things happen and those who just watch things happen.

:salam2:

So 3 or 4 pakis being on the ship is good enough for entire of pakistan ? So citizens of pakistan should be proud of their 'fellow pakistanis' ? Is that our contribution ?

How long is the aid on these flotilla ships going to last ? 1 month ? How many people would it serve ? A small tiny % of people.

This is an example of a emotional response. One which often is the most ill conceived and ill planned idea.

Rather, if someone convinces the Egyptian govt to open the borders from their side, it would open a route for aid to go into Gaza regularly.

But we are instead busy 'breaking the seige' from Israel's waterways. 'Making a statement' is what we care more about these days. Shouting, burning flags, chanting slogans on the street etc etc.

There is no doubt that they are plenty of muslims who care passionately about Islam & plight of fellow muslims. Yet when we take action or try to find a solution, we copy the ways of Kuffar, relegating the scholars to the backseat. It is like we have to ape the kuffar and show our plight to them, to find solutions to our problems. What ever happened to finding the solutions from our deen ? Or even abiding by our deen for a start ?

And yea.. We can't resist to have a dig at our fellow muslim brethren. Well the Saudis didn't have any representation on the flotilla so we can roll out our -- 'The Saudis haven't done this/that' , 'The rulers are corrupt' etc etc. What a nice example of Islamic behavior and brotherhood !

Not to forget total disregard to 'Politics in light of Islam'. Oh yea, we do have something in our deen about it !

The only thing this incident did is to show how clueless and hopeless we are. In addition to how much we require the 'pity' of the kuffar, to showcase that we are being exploited/wronged against.

May Allah subhaanaho waa ta'ala help us and guide us. Ameen

Wasalaamalaykum waa rahmatullahi
 

saif

Junior Member
:salam2:

After criticizing the sincere efforts of our muslims brothers and sisters by calling it aping the kuffaar, would you now be kind enough to enlighten us about the strategies, which the scholars of your trust suggest?

With due respect, I do not agree with your aftermath. After a long long time, the muslims have done something without loosing the moral superiority. Their causes are mosly just, but they are usually quick in loosing their moral superiority. What we all can learn is, that the real superiority is always the moral superiority.

Needless to say, there are many among us, who give up their moral superiority by killing innocent civilians to gain some short term and short sighted goals. And even all the fatwas against such actions had been no help to stop it. The discussion will get too long and I don't have time to discuss it in full length.

In the end a few words in agreement with you: It is unfair to pass judgements on people on basis of their presence or absence on the freedom flotilla. I have no doubt, that saudi muslims are very charitable and they have always been doing a lot for all muslims in difficulty.

:wasalam:
 

kayleigh

Junior Member
I'm surprised he said that, but good for him.

i found it shameful that there were no saudis or iranians representatives on the ships. Oh and the world has neglected far more serious crimes from the state of israel, so this was nothing.

Surely if there were Iranians on board, that would be proof of hostility and nuclear weapons!
 

kayleigh

Junior Member
btw, in a more recent article he kind of took back his statements, said that an Israeli-commissioned investigation would be best (so much for impartiality lol), and that when he said "innocent" he meant people in afghanistan, not palestinians or activists.

Fail.
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
:salam2:

After criticizing the sincere efforts of our muslims brothers and sisters by calling it aping the kuffaar, would you now be kind enough to enlighten us about the strategies, which the scholars of your trust suggest?

:wasalam:

A passionate and emotional effort, yet not well thought or well planned.

Do you think taking muslim sisters on board to Gaza strip patrolled by Israeli Navy is a good idea ?

Did it even come across the mind of the organisers, if all the members were held captive, what the kuffar could do with our sisters ?

Did they not foresee that Israel could interfere with their 'breaking the blocade' by using their military ? and killing members on board ?

If the effort was really that sincere, these thoughts would have crossed their mind.

With due respect, I do not agree with your aftermath. After a long long time, the muslims have done something without loosing the moral superiority. Their causes are mosly just, but they are usually quick in loosing their moral superiority. What we all can learn is, that the real superiority is always the moral superiority.

Needless to say, there are many among us, who give up their moral superiority by killing innocent civilians to gain some short term and short sighted goals. And even all the fatwas against such actions had been no help to stop it. The discussion will get too long and I don't have time to discuss it in full length.

I don't understand the moral superiority that we have supposedly gained. Nor do I think we have gained anything.

- Turkey has apparently realized that it needs to reconsider it's military ties with Israel. Fascinating.. !

- The organizers are busy defending that they didn't have any weapons, while Israelis are happily adding new members to the 'terrorist list'.

- Muslims all across the world hoping for some sympathy from the Kuffar. Though both recent and past history that they don't care an iota about us.

- An international independent inquiry is being called for. As usual, there wouldn't be any retribution for Israel.

- No one knows about the aid, most likely seized by Israel. Nothing reached needy Palestinians.

The only emotion is a sigh of relief, that all these people are back home & not bring tortured by the kuffar.

Finally, I did not claim to know of an idea or the 'right thing to do'. I just wanted to share what I thought on this drawn out saga.

Wasalaamalaykum waa rahmatullahi
 

IslamicGirl24

Junior Member
Assalamu alaykum.

But BrotherInIslam7, you still haven't suggested the proper way for providing aid to the people of Gaza?? What do you think Turkey should have done?!
 

Waseem203

Young Muslim
:wasalam:

A passionate and emotional effort, yet not well thought or well planned.

Do you think taking muslim sisters on board to Gaza strip patrolled by Israeli Navy is a good idea ?

Did it even come across the mind of the organisers, if all the members were held captive, what the kuffar could do with our sisters ?

Did they not foresee that Israel could interfere with their 'breaking the blocade' by using their military ? and killing members on board ?

If the effort was really that sincere, these thoughts would have crossed their mind.



I don't understand the moral superiority that we have supposedly gained. Nor do I think we have gained anything.

- Turkey has apparently realized that it needs to reconsider it's military ties with Israel. Fascinating.. !

- The organizers are busy defending that they didn't have any weapons, while Israelis are happily adding new members to the 'terrorist list'.

- Muslims all across the world hoping for some sympathy from the Kuffar. Though both recent and past history that they don't care an iota about us.

- An international independent inquiry is being called for. As usual, there wouldn't be any retribution for Israel.

- No one knows about the aid, most likely seized by Israel. Nothing reached needy Palestinians.

The only emotion is a sigh of relief, that all these people are back home & not bring tortured by the kuffar.

Finally, I did not claim to know of an idea or the 'right thing to do'. I just wanted to share what I thought on this drawn out saga.

Wasalaamalaykum waa rahmatullahi

At least they did something...talk is easy, what have you done? Not to come of as harsh, but Gazans have been suffering for years and do you really think our words are going to break the blockade? To everyone who wants to criticize something, just ask yourself are you any better? I know i'm not, and thats why my hat goes off to the martyrs on the boat.
 

BrotherInIslam7

La Illaha Illa Allah
Staff member
Assalamu alaykum.

But BrotherInIslam7, you still haven't suggested the proper way for providing aid to the people of Gaza?? What do you think Turkey should have done?!

At least they did something...talk is easy, what have you done? Not to come of as harsh, but Gazans have been suffering for years and do you really think our words are going to break the blockade? To everyone who wants to criticize something, just ask yourself are you any better? I know i'm not, and thats why my hat goes off to the martyrs on the boat.

:salam2:

So your response to my elaborate post is criticism that I haven't suggested any alternative methods. I already addressed in my earlier post, that we should search the answers from our deen. Therefore, the answers to your question lie with the scholars, not me. I hope this makes it clear.

I believe Shaikh Moutasem al-Hameedy addressed the issue briefly in his program 'Inspirations' on Huda Tv. I wasn't fortunate enough to watch it. So you can look into it, if it interests you.

@ brother Waseem

You make it sound like these people on flotilla were able to achieve some sort of victory against the blockade. As I mentioned earlier, the aide itself has been seized. So there have been no beneficiaries of this effort so far.

These events have only given Israel more opportunities to propagate their falsehood to the world media. If you have tuned into CNN or BBC, you can hear how Israel's representative are busy justifying the 3 year Gaza blockade by mentioning '3000 rockets' have been fired into Israel in the past year.

Another point to realise is, the west and kuffar in general are not our well-wishers. Even if it is communicated that we are being tortured, murdered, wronged against etc etc, they won't run to our rescue. They wont pressurize Israel to open the Gazan waters to aid.

Have we not seen their response to the massacre in 2009, when thousands of innocents were murdered infront of everyone's eyes ?

They even failed to describe it as a 'unilateral murderous assault'. They called it a (2 sided) 'war', to make it sound that Israel's actions were justified.

Btw, you do realise that Gaza has borders with a muslim country who has closed its borders ?

Now someone with intellect would rather suggest convincing the muslim country to open it's borders, rather than boarding civilian ships entering waterways that are patrolled by kuffar's navy, who are known to have zero regard for human lives.

:wasalam:
 

abu'muhammad

Junior Member
Assalaamu alaykum,

I agree to akhi brotherinislam7, with others on thread I keep their word in value.

The event has not turned to benefit! How-ever with the noble intentions, alhamdulillah. instead the act seems emotional, lacking presence of mind.

To think that the enemy will hug, have warm welcome in its most grounded place and would act as ally is not wisdom. And If the news are true that some members on ship attacked Israeli soldiers etc than its another folly of calling unsafe outcome.

To think that enemy will send the help, aid parcels etc is also too much, when knowing that enemy has made blockades to stop the things and discourage them morally.

I think one of the suitable way of help is through relief organizations who are always doing relief work at such times. InshaAllaah, we could say with some confidence that the relief sent will be made available to needy.

The killing of people on board is a sad outcome. The loss to their family is much and we have condolences for them.

And Allaah knows the best and forgive me for any mistake.
 

AZAM_SIDDIQUI

Junior Member
BROTHERINISLAM7 AND OTHERS WHO AGREE WITH HIM - I definately dont and am with those who find the reasons put forward by you as weak hearted and sentimental and intellectual ranting at the sametime.

you are worried that what the kuffar would have done to the sisters on board - (the sisters who were more brave than us men sitting behind the safety of our computer screens-) where is your concernabout 'our sisters' in palestine who go through this humiliation for decades now and what about those who are tortured in abu gharib and prisons like the same.

these people on flotilla knew what they were going into-so that sissies like you and me realize and wake up. if that happens that will be the greatest achievement of those martyrs.

and remember that Thawbaan (radhiAllaahu ‘anhu) related that the Messenger of Allaah (sallAllaahu ‘alaihi wasallam) said, "The nations are about to call each other and set upon you, just as the diners set upon food." It was said, ‘Will it be because of our small number that day?’ He said, "Rather, on that day you will be many, but you will be like foam, like the foam on the ocean. And Allaah will remove the fear of you from the hearts of your enemies and will throw Wahn (weakness) into your hearts." Someone said, ‘O Messenger of Allaah! What is Wahn?’ He said, "Love of the world and hatred for death."4
” O you who believe, when you meet an enemy, be firm, and remember Allah much, that you may be successful. And obey Allah and His Apostle. And fall with no disputes, lest ye falter and your strength fail; but be steadfast! For Allah is with those who patiently persevere. Be not as those who came forth from their dwellings boastfully. And to be seen of men and debar (men) from the way of Allah. And Allah encompasses what they do” (viii. 45-46).

 

Aapa

Mirajmom
Assalaam walaikum,

There really is not a debate here. I am one who is behind the symbolic gesture of goodwill. These are people who want to help. They did not have weapons. They were ambassadors of goodwill. It was a possible way to provide aid and avoid military confrontation. This was not a political act. And to a degree it may have been a secular act. However, my heart is with them.

BrotherinIslam is suggesting that there be more than an act of goodwill from a handfull of wellmeaning individuals. He is correct. What on earth is the government of Egypt doing. If I am not mistaken he is suggesting there be more Pan-Muslim organization.

He is suggesting more structure and organizational development. Both are correct.
 
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