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Please give a brief explanation on the topic.
Thank You!
Please give a brief explanation on the topic.
Thank You!
:salam2:
Please give a brief explanation on the topic.
Thank You!
:salam2::salam2:Objectively tough,it is obvious that people do not fight for virgins,they usually fight for justice and to protect their families and their hourma, in the way of Allah swt.If it were for the virgins I know a lot of brothers who would shoot anybody at sight for a single virgin even, and the Muslim armies would be the biggest ones on earth for that purpose given the high celibacy rate in our communities .What is meant by that is that Muslims will get anything they wish in paradise and more of which they don't know like Allah swt says in the Quraan.The prophet salla llahu aleihi wassalaam being a commander and knowing the desert Arabs mentality very well,and that a women is the only source of smoothness at sight in a harsh and dry landscape for them,thus what they desired the most ,mentioned this detail to motivate them.Maybe some brother would give a better explanation with references.Wallahu Aalam
The word hoor is actually the plural of ahwar (applicable to man) and of haura (applicable to woman) and signifies a person having eyes characterized by hauar a special quality bestowed upon a good soul, male or female in paradise and it denotes the intense whiteness of the white part of the spiritual eye.
The Quran describes in several other verses that in paradise you will have azwaj which mean a pair or spouse or companion which means you will have spouses or companions pure and holy (mutaharratun means pure, holy).
“But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruit there from, they say: “Why, this is what we were fed with before”, for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (forever)”. [Al-Quran 2:25]
“But those who believe and do deeds of righteousness, We shall soon admit to Gardens, with rivers flowing beneath - their eternal home; therein shall they have companions pure and holy: we shall admit them to shades, cool and ever deepening”. [Al-Quran 4:57]
Therefore the word hoor has no specific gender. Mohammad Asad has translated the word hoor as spouse and Abdullah Yusuf Ali as companion. Therefore according to some scholars a man in paradise will have a hoor that is a beautiful maiden with beautiful big and lustrous eyes and a woman in paradise will get a man with beautiful big and lustrous eyes.
the 72 virgin is a myth
the hadith about it, is considered gharib or unreliable or even maudhu' (fake), the chain naration of the hadith is lost (no sanad)
as muslims, we should only look into hadits that have good sanad or sahih hadits
, and not believe in weak hadits or whatsoever
im 29 years old muslims since born, but me or my friends, family, etc never heard about this hadits before
since our Imam etc never mentioned it during their preach, probably because they aware this was a gharib hadith
and dont forget
the destruction of ummah, started when muslims consumes these kind of hadiths...
in Aceh, indonesia because of faked hadits, by a fake muslims, Ummah get divided and defeated....
and yet, about Jihad, motivation etc
in modern history, in 1945, indonesian Muslim declare "Jihad Resolution" to fight the british in Surabaya
and there were no "virgin" mentioned by the Imam, as to motivate muslims to raise arms against the British
and about the word houri or Hoor in quran, considered as female virgin
this is a good explaination by zakir naik
Allah know best
Surat Luqmān (31:6)
وَمِنَ النَّاسِ مَن يَشْتَرِي لَهْوَ الْحَدِيثِ لِيُضِلَّ عَن سَبِيلِ اللَّهِ بِغَيْرِ عِلْمٍ وَيَتَّخِذَهَا هُزُواً أُولَئِكَ لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ مُّهِينٌ
And there is among the men such a one also , who buys "lahv al-hadith" so that he may lead the people astray from Allah's Way, without any knowledge, and make a mockery of the invitation to it. For such people there is a disgraceful torment.
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ahhhh yes im sory....
, it's me myself considered it as "nonconstructive" hadith, and not important hadith for my life, my jihad, or my faith
in term of Jihad because of Allah only, such hadits doesnt make senses.....
and i dont think, it's wrong, for muslims to believe such perspective, since even quran doesn't mention such thing
beside, in my region, where previously Hindus as majority
hadiths like "allah's foot in hell" , hadits like this not mentioned in quran and sound familiar with hindu story, when Shiva foot stepped on Rahwana and he "pray" to shiva
im glad the hadits,not mentioned in quran....but it's hadits by bukhari as tafsir of a surah
and sory im not "buying" it, and
im not a hadith rejecter, but im selecting hadits which is make sense and constructive for my faith....
im using this verse...
The words lahv al-hadith in the Text imply such a thing as may allure and absorb a listener completely and make him heedless of everything else around him. Lexically, there is nothing derogatory in these words, but in custom and usage they apply to evil and useless and vain things, such as gossip, nonsensical talk, joking and jesting, legends and tales, singing and merry-making, etc.
but at the end still, ALLAH KNOWS BEST........
Brother, no offense but you show profound ignorance. So let me ask, is the deen based on the narrations "YOU" take and what you throw away? What if some hadeeth you take goes against some other muslim's desires? Is he free to throw them away? Or should he ask you for your interpretation in order to understand the deen?
So, basically your saying that we pick and choose that which suits our personal desires?
Have you studied about the preservation of hadeeth in the first place? Perhaps it will be a good idea to go study a basic book on how the ahadeeth of the Prophet :saw2: was preserved for 1400 years.
And just so that you know, there are numerous ayaat in the Qur'aan that talk about Hoor-ul-`Ayn, like:
وَحُورٌ عِينٌ . كَأَمْثَالِ اللُّؤْلُؤِ الْمَكْنُونِ
And (there will be) Houris (fair females) with wide, lovely eyes (as wives for the pious), like unto preserved pearls. [Soorah al-Waaqiah: 23-24]
Verily you shall conquer Constantinople. What a wonderful leader will her leader be, and what a wonderful army will that army be!
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correct, selecting hadith it's done by previous generation, even the best leader mention by Rasullulah
it was Sultan Mehmed II, who conquered Constantinople, just like the prophercy but later this known Sultan, ask himself to be painted?
did he didnt know the hadith painting living creature, haram?
or even
this :tti_sister:, is it haram in islam?
The Islamic medical science would'nt be so advance by that time, if those scholar forbid themself to paint human anatomy both men and women...
yet they still paint them....did they selecting hadith/ijtihad?
yes they were....and what basis they select hadith/ijtihad?
of course the hadith that not against the quran or even mentioned in quran, and constructive to their faith and life
yet Allah grant the best knowledge for them and for islamic society...
and also
we can learn the fall of andalusia as well....by whom? which type of muslims?
hadith selecter/ijtihad'ers or those who forbid ijtihad?
for me, i choose to follow them, selecting hadith that construct my faith, jihad, and life as long as quran mention it, i'll follow the hadith....and if there is strange hadith, my ijtihad is the key...
and about hoor
Dr Zakir Naik have mention the root word, as my previous post....you can email him if you have other thought....
Allah Know Best