Ibn Kathir's Account of the Destruction of the Homosexuals of Lut

Abu Sabaayaa

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Describing the horrible destruction that befell the homosexuals from the people of Lut, Ibn Kathir narrates:

"...And when the Sun rose, the punishment descended upon them.

Allah Said: {"So when Our Commandment came, We turned them upside down, and rained on them stones of sijjil mandud (piled up, baked clay); marked from your Lord, and it is not far from the wrong-doers."} [Hud; 82-83] They (the People of the Book) say that Jibril uprooted their dwellings by plucking them with the edge of his wing, and they were seven cities filled with people in total. They say that they were 400 people total, and it is said that they were 400,000 along with their animals and the surrounding cities and areas and dwellings. So, he lifted all of this until it was piled up to the level of the clouds, to the point that the Angels could hear the sounds of their roosters and the howling of their dogs. He then flipped all of this over, causing what was on the bottom to be on top and vice versa.

Mujahid said: "The first thing that fell were some benches that they used to sit on."

{"...and rained on them stones of sijjil..."} [Hud; 82] Sijjil is a Persian word later adopted by the Arabs, and it is a type of rock that is quite strong and hard; {"...mandud..."} [Hud; 82] means that they came down upon them one after the other from the sky; {"...marked from your Lord..."} [Hud; 82] means that each rock was inscribed with the name of the person it was meant to hit and smash, as Allah Said: {"Marked by your Lord for the wrong-doers..."} [adh-Dhariyat; 34] and as He Said: {"And We rained on them a rain of torment, and how evil was the rain for those who had been warned."} [ash-Shu'ara'; 173 and an-Naml; 58]

And Allah Said: {"And He destroyed the overthrown cities. So, there covered them that which did cover."} [an-Najm; 53-54] meaning that He overturned it, reversing its top and bottom, and He then rained down hardened rocks one after the other, and each rock was inscribed with the name of its target that it would hit - both those who were in these cities at the time and those who happened to be absent or out of town on a journey.

...And His Saying here: {"...and it is not far from the wrong-doers."} [Hud; 83] means that this punishment is not far from those who resemble these people in their actions, and this is why there are scholars who held the opinion that the homosexual is to be stoned to death whether he is married or not. This was the explicitly stated opinion of ash-Shafi'i, Ahmad bin Hambal, and a large group of the scholars. They also used as proof the hadith reported by Ahmad and the compilers of the Sunan from 'Amr bin Abi 'Amr from 'Ikrimah from Ibn 'Abbas that the Messenger of Allah said: "Whoever you find doing the act of the people of Lut, kill him and the one it was done to." And Abu Hanifah was of the opinion that the homosexual is to be both thrown from a high mountain and then stoned, just as was done with the people of Lut, due to the verse: {"...and it is not far from the wrong-doers."} [Hud; 83]

And Allah caused the location of these lands to become a rotten lagoon whose water and adjacent areas cannot be benefited from due to their repugnance and filth. So, it became a warning, an example, an admonishment, and a sign of the Power, Might, and Honor of Allah in exacting revenge upon he who opposes His commands and rejects His Messengers and follows his desires and disobeys his Master, as well as a proof of His Mercy towards His believing slaves by saving them from this destruction and removing them from the darknesses into the light, as He Said: {"Verily, in this is a sign. Yet, most of them are not believers. And verily, your Lord! He is truly the Mighty, the Merciful."} [ash-Shu'ara'; 8-9]"

['al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah'; 1/207-208]

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Fadheelah

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Assalaamu-alaikum. Homosexuality is so rife throughout the world. Many Muslims are getting caught in this evil. It is being looked upon as something normal, in fact it is being glorified and promoted as a freedom and a right under so called "democracy" May Allah protect one and all.
 

friend263

Junior Member
Scary.. but what about thosr people who says that we are born like this i mean since we again puberty we are luke thisnonly we dont do it intentionally??
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
To those who espouse and champion homosexuality or lesbianism, it might be wise to think about the story of Prophet Lut and the complete annihilation of those communities. It was not their sins related to worship, the concept of God, financial crimes or otherwise, but same sex relationships. True, lesbianism is not mentioned explicitly in the Qur'an or in the story itself, but the nature of the action and how it is viewed is the same in Islam.
 

MehmetHilmi

Junior Member
Please be careful. Homosexuality is not haram. Homosexual acts are. And you cannot judge people who say that they were born with that feeling. Only Allah knows what is in their hearts. I say that it is a test for certain individuals. And if the live righteously and uphold their chastity, they will receive a huge reward.
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
Please be careful. Homosexuality is not haram. Homosexual acts are. And you cannot judge people who say that they were born with that feeling. Only Allah knows what is in their hearts. I say that it is a test for certain individuals. And if the live righteously and uphold their chastity, they will receive a huge reward.

Jazakallah Khayrun Brother Mehmet Hilmi. I am aware it is not haram and it was not my intention to say so or imply it either. However, there are many today who seem to think that Islam has nothing against it, that it is just as normal as heterosexuality. Some Muslims even attempt to explain the people of Lut were guilty of homosexual rape (especially homosexual paedophilia) and not homosexual actions themselves, just to make Islam sound modern and make homosexual relations a normal reality.
 

thiagogo

Junior Member
It's barbaric, I see that all people have equal rights, why should they destroy each other? let's make this society work even better let's protect each other whenever possible atari breakout
 

Abu Juwairiya

Junior Member
It's barbaric, I see that all people have equal rights, why should they destroy each other? let's make this society work even better let's protect each other whenever possible atari breakout
Equal Rights is a myth. It does not exist anywhere, even where it is legislated, namely the liberal West.

Protecting each other in its highest from means enjoining the good and forbidding the evil; homosexuality in Islam is one of the latter.

You can make society work best with a moral framework; that sadly can never occur in liberal societies which promotes atheism, secularism and as such opposes morality and god consciousness in favour of personal freedoms.

True barbarism is to allow the human race to decay and result in a proliferation of mental health, depression, anxiety, suicide, loneliness and isolation and profit the corporate world alone. The worst form of fascism is government and multinational companies aligned together, which is in short the liberal western world.
 
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