Mastermind recruiting Islamic gang inside super jail

IbnAlAawam

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Mastermind recruiting Islamic gang inside super jail


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THE NSW Government has launched a prison crackdown on a group of the state's most dangerous criminals who have converted to Islam.

The targets are held in the highest security jail in Australia, the Super Max facility inside the walls of Goulburn jail, where one in three of the inmates is a Muslim fundamentalist or a convert.

Two prison converts, one a convicted murderer and the other a rapist, have married Muslim women in marriage ceremonies conducted over the telephone on party lines.

Attorney-General John Hatzistergos is introducing sweeping changes to the prison regulations so the Super Max Muslims are monitored 24/7 because of safety and security fears.

"We have to be able to control every movement and every utterance because of the threat they pose," Mr Hatzistergos told The Sun-Herald. "We don't want to see any risk to people either inside or outside the system. We simply can't take our eye off them."

Called the "Super Max Jihadists", they are easily identifiable, with shaven heads, long beards, carrying prayer beads and conducting prayers at least three times a day in their cells.

Their ringleader and powerbroker is Bassam Hamzy, jailed for 21 years for the cold-blooded shooting murder of an 18-year-old man outside the Mr Goodbar nightclub in Oxford Street in 1998.

Prison officers have confiscated pictures of Osama bin Laden from the walls of Hamzy's cell. Prisoners have been captured on surveillance tapes kneeling in front of Hamzy and kissing his hands.

The 37 Super Max inmates, including backpacker serial killer Ivan Milat, have committed 48 murders and are serving combined sentences of 550 years.

Now 12 of them claim adherence to Islam and form a close-knit culture in the purpose-built jail within a jail. Under Mr Hatzistergos's new measures, Hamzy and his apostles will be deemed "extreme high security" and be subject to controls that can be ordered at any time by NSW Corrective Services commissioner Ron Woodham.

The crackdown will stop money being sent by sympathisers on the outside to influence inmates to convert to Islam.

In future, Mr Woodham will have to approve in advance any sums of money sent to inmates' accounts in the "extreme high security" category.

"We don't have a difficulty with people taking up a religion per se in jail," Mr Hatzistergos said.

"A lot of people do and that can be beneficial.

"Where we do draw the line is where religion is really a camouflage for other activities.

"If any person thinks that by taking up religion, that somehow it is going to lead to them being treated differently on a day-to-day basis, they will be sadly mistaken."

He was supported by Mr Woodham, who said: "We're concerned about real heavy criminals who have had no interest in religion at all during their lives but, on coming to jail, then convert to Islam.

"A number of Aboriginal prisoners, unfortunately, doing impossible sentences, have converted to Islam. They denounce their Aboriginality for Islam."

Outlining the new powers to case-manage the Hamzy followers, Mr Hatzistergos said: "They can be moved around the jail system for any purpose at any time.

"The commissioner can put in place any additional security arrangements he wishes, including a restriction on contact visits, monitoring those visits, monitoring phone calls, recording phone calls and checking all mail."

Mr Hatzistergos, who is also Justice Minister, said the Department of Corrective Services would face justifiable criticism if it didn't act in response to the safety and security of the prison system being compromised. "We make no apologies for it," he said. "We are dealing here with, religion or no religion, some of the worst of the worst offenders who have no respect for authority.

"The thought that somehow religion has acted as a catharsis for them and made them see the light is, quite frankly, ludicrous."

Source: The Sun-Herald
 

justoneofmillion

Junior Member
assalami aleikum,it is cool that they converted to islam allhamdulillah but i do not understand the marriage thing was there any mahram present familly member and does the woman now have to be separated from her husband for the rest of her life who is going to provide for her? if it is a life sentence i do not understand the purpose of this imam that is arranging this!is this islamically allowed am looking forward for any clarification on the subject jazakallahu khair


wassalam:confused:
 

IbnAlAawam

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assalami aleikum,it is cool that they converted to islam allhamdulillah but i do not understand the marriage thing was there any mahram present familly member and does the woman now have to be separated from her husband for the rest of her life who is going to provide for her? if it is a life sentence i do not understand the purpose of this imam that is arranging this!is this islamically allowed am looking forward for any clarification on the subject jazakallahu khair


wassalam:confused:


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I don't know about the maharam but in regard to the "life sentence" you need to understand that it does not litterally mean "for life" It can mean 7 years!!!

Life imprisonment is a sentence of imprisonment for a serious crime, nominally for the entire remaining life of the prisoner, but in fact for a period which varies between jurisdictions: many countries have a maximum possible period of time (usually seven years) a prisoner may be incarcerated, or require the possibility of parole after a set amount of time.

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justoneofmillion

Junior Member
assalamu aleikum , i know that it can be reduced but that is a possibility not a probability and how is this possible islamiccally i mean that is all because
if i was in prison and i see somebody else getting married after becoming muslim
of course am going to become "muslim" man i do not doubt the sincerity of those brother at all but this kind of methode the imam is using can be dangerous!


wassalam
 

IbnAlAawam

Junior Member
assalamu aleikum , i know that it can be reduced but that is a possibility not a probability and how is this possible islamiccally i mean that is all because
if i was in prison and i see somebody else getting married after becoming muslim
of course am going to become "muslim" man i do not doubt the sincerity of those brother at all but this kind of methode the imam is using can be dangerous!


wassalam

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I agree, I would not recommend it to any one.
But you know, any one with a bit of knowledge can claim to be an imam...(i am not accusing anyone).
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Abdul-Raheem

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Thisreminds me of a gang we have in London called the 'Muslim' boys, mainly made up of so called converts. Most of them admit the only reason they converted to islam is that in Prison 'muslims get better food'....

Anyway, they go around smoking crack, mugging people, selling drugs, weapons, everything you would expect from a typical. Only difference is they force the imam of the local mosque to open the doors in the middle of the night so they can pray two rak'ah before they go out commiting crimes to ask forgiveness for what they are about to do..... They even go around trying to convert people by gun or knife point!
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wasalam
 

Jihan

Junior Member
:salam2:

Thisreminds me of a gang we have in London called the 'Muslim' boys, mainly made up of so called converts. Most of them admit the only reason they converted to islam is that in Prison 'muslims get better food'....

Anyway, they go around smoking crack, mugging people, selling drugs, weapons, everything you would expect from a typical. Only difference is they force the imam of the local mosque to open the doors in the middle of the night so they can pray two rak'ah before they go out commiting crimes to ask forgiveness for what they are about to do..... They even go around trying to convert people by gun or knife point!
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wasalam

:angryred: that sounds absolutely horrendous!!!:angryred: i cannot believe anybody that would even consider to call themselves muslim would do any of those things.:angryred:
 
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