Protesters burn US flag outside embassy in london

[justoneofmillion]

As a supporter of freedom, I support the right of people to protest whatever they like, by burning whatever inanimate object they like, whether it be the US flag, the Saudi Arabian Flag, the Bible, the Koran, effigies of various politicians, or a bag of Marshmallows, provided the following 2 things are true:

1. The burned object belongs to them, and they didn't steal it.
2. They take care not to let the fire get out of control, so that it burns up buildings, people, or large areas of forests or grass.

Hi there,how are you?Good God willing.

Please do Allow me to state some humble words in response to your comment:

Be it in the name of Islam or Humanism. My freedom should start where yours begins.It is a very nihilistic and self contradicting view you are portraying there,as you are limiting freedom and it's effects to their material dimension.

If one seeks to try and do his part in making this world a better place for the together living of Men,he must show compassion ,understanding,support and reliance to his next.

Am sure you don't swear at your next door neighbor ever morning when living for work in the name of freedom at least I hope you do not have to live under such circumstances ,for no reason,it would be useless and reflect only one's own poor state of mind.What is forbidding you from doing so,what is somehow making you say"Hi, how are you,Good morning"?.It is your conscience,your sense of goodness and awareness of social harmony.Well balanced, adult and responsible People don't usually go around and throw racist slurs at others because of the color of their skin,size of their noses or that of their behinds...in the name of Freedom.

Every action lays the stage for a reaction,and if you now for one second could get out of your own little world to gain a bigger perspective,you would realize that this world with all it's social,and communicative structures is but a very fragile Giant boat, if it sinks and looses it's balance we are all going down,the circle of violence will never end.

We would be playing big fish eats small fish and if we are not good enough at doing so , because of our consciences and human dignity somehow,we could delay the time when Elephants and Gorillas would start thinking about putting us inside Zoos to visit us once a week with their children,we de be reproducing with everybody anyways in the name of freedom, no trust, no faithfulness no feelings,no loyalty,no dinners and discussions to share no courting and proposal for marriage nada,just take what you can !! .

Like some dude they showed on a TV report a while ago,in some remote area in the Caucasus.He did not have enough money to marry,the gilr and her parents refused, he went to the girls house put her over his shoulders and ran to up the forest as he was saying to the camera, the French woman reporter was speechless,..lol

If there was any good in some sort of limitless, non well defined Freedom,well that was his conception of freedom...and to everybody his...

Those are therefore not just flowery words that are made to amuse pessimistic minds.Oftentimes there is much Joy in giving rather than taking,much satisfaction in having ones own Ego under control rather than let it guide us to the destruction of our surrounding and ultimately our own selves.A clean person can not live in the midst of dirt and chaos, so do free and appeased souls.

One of the Khilafa of Islam named Muawiya ibn Abu sufyaan R.A said once (and some brother or sister would be blessed to correct the exactitude,wording..etc )

'If there was between me and my friend something as fragile as a hair of good relation,everytime he pulls I will let go and everytime he'd let go I would pull".

Allah swt has showed us Muslim other practical ways to deal with our tensions and frustrations.Through Charity,Prayer,Pilgrimage,fasting,Marital duty,hard work..etc.We do not need this kind of circus. There is no need to be enemies with those who do not harm us .

Freedom As you yourself have stated has limits ,for us and for these protesters,it is the sky that should be the limit in our perceptions.This is why You see brothers and sisters not being happy about such misbehavior.

All I have said was a response to what you have written,it is not directed to you personally neither does it hold the pretension of being judgmental or to have any fathering type of tone,I hope you take it positively.

Take Care .Be well.

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

It is always good to see the words of thinkers on the responses.

Let me make this real for some of you. Its just this humble woman.

Hey folks: I live in the US of A. I am trying to hold on to the Rope of Allah. I love my faith. We see the Homeland Security vans drive by the masjids. I just saw one today. We are monitored.

Why are you burning flags? Do you not understand that the US government will not take it out on the people across the Atlantic..but it may make life a little harder for us over here?

Why not use the words of the Quran to burn realization into the hearts of people to wake up?

Oh Sister Alf..if you do not mind please PM. I want to discuss the word liberal with you and all its connotations.

 

[septithol]

Assalamu Alaikum:
It is more disastrous for this is burning of our faith and sentiments.

And what is freedom or extent of freedom how do you analyse that?. Autonomy in this material world is not freedom but a blessed state to judge right or wrong and follow the right way.

Regards.

Sachin, first of all, I am not a Muslim, so burning the Koran would not be a burning of my own particular faith.

Secondly, I support the right of people, if they so wish, to burn objects from my OWN faith, as well as others. I am not an immature narcissist who regards my own religion as somehow 'special', better than all other religions, and exempt from criticism.

Thirdly, my definition of freedom is extremely broad, I believe a person has a right to do whatever they wish, unless they either harm another person, or that person's property, or tell a lie.

 

[septithol]

Am sure you don't swear at your next door neighbor ever morning when living for work in the name of freedom at least I hope you do not have to live under such circumstances ,for no reason,it would be useless and reflect only one's own poor state of mind.What is forbidding you from doing so,what is somehow making you say"Hi, how are you,Good morning"?.It is your conscience,your sense of goodness and awareness of social harmony.

Grins. There is one neighbor of mine I talk very rudely to, but there is a specific reason for that. I have the misfortune of working in the same place as her, and she is most certainly the LAZIEST person I have ever met. Just yesterday, she made a poor man who had a broken foot stand and work, rather than help him, because she wanted to go smoke cigarettes.

Like some dude they showed on a TV report a while ago,in some remote area in the Caucasus.He did not have enough money to marry,the gilr and her parents refused, he went to the girls house put her over his shoulders and ran to up the forest as he was saying to the camera, the French woman reporter was speechless,..lol

If there was any good in some sort of limitless, non well defined Freedom,well that was his conception of freedom...and to everybody his...

My main question there would be, did the girl want to marry him? If so, I consider the behavior of her parents to be the problem. A woman is a person, to make her own decisions, not a cow to be sold at an auction to the highest bidder. If the girl did not want to marry him, then I would say there is a problem.

Freedom As you yourself have stated has limits ,for us and for these protesters,it is the sky that should be the limit in our perceptions.This is why You see brothers and sisters not being happy about such misbehavior.

Well the thing is, if you ban protests, on the grounds that they 'might start a riot', the long term result is likely to be a lot worse, in a couple different ways. The first is that if nobody protests when the government does some small infringement of freedom, say, making certain people wear a yellow star on their clothing, it will be too late to protest, when the government starts killing those people.

The second, is that the reason you give 'might start a riot' is pretty much a blank check, for the government to ban almost anything it dislikes. Almost anything you would care to name in the world potentially 'might start a riot'. There are blacks who dislike the works of Mark Twain intensely, because he uses racist terms in his book. Which was how people talked when he was alive. Shall we ban the works of Mark Twain? How about the Bible and the Koran, both of those books have been used as reasons countless times to start riots. Shall we ban them? Or are the particular things that you personally happen to like to be somehow exempted from being banned under the 'might start a riot' reason?

 

[sachin4islam]

@Septithol.

I better believe in commandments of Allah (SWT) and from these commandments I analyse the extent of freedom that I am blessed with.

You are amalgamating common sense with freedom. You are generalizing the definition of freedom. Freedom has different levels and its extent varies with change of level. The freedom you enjoy home and at social level are different. A freedom that you exercise at your home may create an issue at social level. If you have choice of freedom you should be intelligent enough to set your own limits. And when your freedom encroaches someone else's freedom,thoughts,emotions,beliefs it is going to generate a state of chaos and nothing else.

Regards.

 

[septithol]

@Septithol.

I better believe in commandments of Allah (SWT) and from these commandments I analyse the extent of freedom that I am blessed with.

You are amalgamating common sense with freedom. You are generalizing the definition of freedom. Freedom has different levels and its extent varies with change of level. The freedom you enjoy home and at social level are different. A freedom that you exercise at your home may create an issue at social level. If you have choice of freedom you should be intelligent enough to set your own limits. And when your freedom encroaches someone else's freedom,thoughts,emotions,beliefs it is going to generate a state of chaos and nothing else.

Regards.

Sachin: I would never prevent you from obeying what you believe to be the commandments of Allah, provided that these commandments had to do only with how YOU chose to live your life, and not attempting to tell others how to live their lives.

Regarding my freedom encroaching on someone else's freedom, thoughts, emotions, and beliefs, those are seperate concepts. My freedom certainly does not have the right to interfere with someone else's freedom. I believe I should have the freedom to dress or think or pray as I like. I should not have the freedom to violently force others how to dress or think or pray (though I do have the right to use non-forcible persuasion).

However, there is not and cannot be a 'right' or 'freedom' to merely not be 'offended' or 'upset' by what someone else is doing. People who think they have a right not to be 'offended' are very immature, and have a lot of growing up to do.

Such a right not to be 'offended' is a blank check, that could be used to prevent anyone from doing anything. Emotional offense is entirely subjective, a person could hypothetically be 'offended' by almost ANYTHING. There are people who are highly offended by eating beef or milk. They have the right not to eat those foods themselves, but they do not have the right to use force to prevent others from eating them, merely because the thought or sight of others eating them happens to 'offend' them.

Think of the things you like to do, say reading the Koran. Whatever these activities are, they undoubtedly 'offend' someone, somewhere. They don't hurt them, but they 'offend' them. Would you want your favorite things banned, merely for this reason?

Or do you advocate a hypocritical double standard, in which those things YOU like are to be allowed, even if they 'offend' other people, but those things which personally 'offend' you are to be banned? In which case, you would then be placing your own emotions far above those of other people. That would be very arrogant, if you did that. At least my version of freedom places me on a level equal to, not arrogantly above, all other people. I am willing to let them do those things that occassionally 'offend' but do not hurt me, provided that they let me do other things, which may sometimes 'offend' but not actually hurt them.

As for 'generating a state of chaos', that is also something that could be used as a blank check, pretty much related to the idea of being 'offended'. If a person happens merely not to like what I am doing, say he doesn't like the hamburger I am eating, he could start a riot, or otherwise 'generate a state of chaos'.

In which case, my life and my freedom are now hostage to his unwillingness or inability to control his temper and mind his own business, rather than worry about what I might be doing.

If you base a society on nobody being able to do anything that might possibly 'offend' someone, or cause someone to 'generate a state of chaos', because they are offended, the rulers of your society are now by default the most immature and insane people, those who can not or will not control their tempers; and furthermore, you have now taught these insane people that throwing temper tantrums is rewarded, because you will control all the lives of their neighbors, if they throw a temper tantrum about what their neighbors might be doing.

 

[sachin4islam]

@Septithol.

You picked up my name from my username,AllahuAalim I am pretty sure you are a Hindu and know me very well. Right?.

There are masses varied in their approach to a common and universal principle. You are a free thinker and I am a bonded to my religion. Practically,some of your points do make sense. But I refute and discard some of allegations you thrash on Islam. Islam is never an imposition and it could be adopted only on realization of certain mysteries of human supremacy over other creatures.

Regards.

 

[septithol]

@Septithol.

You picked up my name from my username,AllahuAalim I am pretty sure you are a Hindu and know me very well. Right?.

There are masses varied in their approach to a common and universal principle. You are a free thinker and I am a bonded to my religion. Practically,some of your points do make sense. But I refute and discard some of allegations you thrash on Islam. Islam is never an imposition and it could be adopted only on realization of certain mysteries of human supremacy over other creatures.

Regards.

Sachin4islam: Sorry, I did not know that 'Sachin' was your name. In fact I didn't know it was a name at all, apparently from what you say, it is a name in some foreign language. I was just shortening your user-name, I apologize if this offended you.

In answer to your other questions, I am not a Hindu. I don't think there is a word to describe my particular religion. My own personal diety (I believe there are several) is Arawn, who is one of the dieties of death. As for how I know this, I was given information in a dream, which was not something I had known before, but which proved to be true when I researched it at the library.

I was not given any information as to whether other dieties, or which ones, exist, so would not presume to tell anyone that their religion and God was false. Everyone is on the path that they are on. They may or may not like where that path leads, in the end.

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

Some discussions bellow hollow. They become useless. And good minds are reduced to emotional banter.

We are trying to protect our faith.

 

[septithol]

@Septithol.

Islam is never an imposition and it could be adopted only on realization of certain mysteries of human supremacy over other creatures.

Regards.

Sachin4islam: I would say that you are correct that 'Islam' in and of itself is not an imposition. No religion or idea, good or bad, true or false, can be an 'imposition' in and of itself. An idea or religion is a concept, it lacks the ability to physically put impositions on people. Nor is any freely adopted idea or religion an 'imposition' on those who have freely agreed to it.

However, there are some misguided people who call themselves 'Muslims' who use the idea of the religion of 'Islam' as either a reason, or a justification, for putting impositions on other people. To be fair, though, the same is true of many other ideas, there are those who use Christianity, or Veganism, or other ideas, as a justification for putting impositions onto other people.

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

I believe in peaceful demonstration or street protest without the need to burn anything. Other faiths sensitivities should be considered before anyone does any stupid things. To say you support burning Quran and Bible, is very insensitive and irresponsible. I'm hard rock muslim, but I will not agree anyone burn bible as it will hurt the feelings my christian friends.

 

[septithol]

I believe in peaceful demonstration or street protest without the need to burn anything. Other faiths sensitivities should be considered before anyone does any stupid things. To say you support burning Quran and Bible, is very insensitive and irresponsible. I'm hard rock muslim, but I will not agree anyone burn bible as it will hurt the feelings my christian friends.

Hard Rock: I beg your pardon, I don't 'support' burning the Bible, or the Koran, or anything else, in the sense that I think that doing so is, in and of itself, a good thing, such as being truthful or going out and feeding poor people would be. However, I support the right to do so, partly because banning such protests would necessitate the creation of a tyranny to enforce such a ban, partly because it would create a principle that would inevitably be extended to ban any activity the government didn't like, and partly because there are sometimes bad things done in the world which should be protested against.

I agree that the 'sensitivities' of other faiths is one thing that one should consider before doing such an action. However, there may be OTHER things to consider, which outweigh the 'sensitivities' of other faiths. For instance, suppose some group of Christians read a verse in the Bible and were confused about the meaning of it, they thought the verse meant that everyone with red hair should be spat on and beaten? I think that would be a very bad thing, and I would likely myself burn the Bible in front of them to protest what they were doing, because I think stopping the way they were treating people with red hair so badly would be far more important than their 'feelings' about a book, which is just an object.

I myself would not mind if someone burned the books or other symbols of my religion, I will explain why. I like to think of myself as being a very moral and ethical person. The books of my religion are just an object on which the ideas of my religion happen to be written. You cannot 'destroy' or 'desecrate' an idea, simply by destroying an object on which the idea is written; you might as well claim that you can disprove the law of gravity by burning a book about Isaac Newton. Or that burning a book about Isaac Newton proves that he was a liar, or evil, or a fool. Only a very childish person would think such a thing. The real truth of ideas exists in the universe, and in people's minds. Books are just objects for informing people of those ideas.

That being the case, someone burning one of the books of my religion has not proven anything about my religion, good or bad. If my religion was bad, and the people who followed it did bad things, then the books deserved to be burned. If it was a good religion, burning the books will not make it bad, and just proves that the people who burned the books were fools, to be laughed at.

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

To be honest your response gave me a headache.

What I see is this. Confusion.

It does not matter in the big picture what you think. What matters is the clarity of purpose once you submit to Allah.

Was Issac Newton a fool. I don't know. I do know most his work is being questioned and is somewhat outdated.
What Newton has to do with the burning of the US flag in the US is confusing.

It would make more sense for Muslims to pray and make dua. Better for the environment.

What is misunderstood here is simple. Muslims have to follow a code of behavior i.e. mores and ethics that non-Believers are unaware. It took me a while to come to this understanding. We are different from those who do not Believe.

When one is given knowledge it is no longer a comparative state. It becomes duty.

 

[Just a Guy]

*apple falls on head*

Who threw that?

 

[septithol]

Assalaam walaikum,

To be honest your response gave me a headache.

What I see is this. Confusion.

It does not matter in the big picture what you think. What matters is the clarity of purpose once you submit to Allah.

Was Issac Newton a fool. I don't know. I do know most his work is being questioned and is somewhat outdated.
What Newton has to do with the burning of the US flag in the US is confusing.

It would make more sense for Muslims to pray and make dua. Better for the environment.

What is misunderstood here is simple. Muslims have to follow a code of behavior i.e. mores and ethics that non-Believers are unaware. It took me a while to come to this understanding. We are different from those who do not Believe.

When one is given knowledge it is no longer a comparative state. It becomes duty.

Aapa, first of all, I'm curious as to why you responded to my post, and tell me it is wrong, when by your own admission, you are not able to understand it, and are confused by it. It is rather as if I, who am unable to read Arabic, were to arrogantly tell someone that some post of theirs, which was written in Arabic, was wrong. I would be very arrogant indeed to say such a thing, if I could not even read or otherwise not understand their post. The only thing I should have to say about such a post would be to humbly ask the person to explain it to me, in a way I could understand, or if the gap in my knowledge was too great, to ask them for books to educate myself.

Secondly, Isaac Newton has not been 'disproved' so much as he has been added onto. His equations are accurate for most conditions. The conditions for which his equations do not work are very extreme, such as objects moving faster than 100,000 miles per second. They were not aware of these conditions during Newton's day, much less, capable of creating them in particle accelerators.

What Isaac Newton has to do with burning the US flag is this: There are only two logical possibilities. Either Newton's ideas about gravity were right, or they were not right. If they were right, burning a book about them will not make them wrong, nor will it cause people to suddenly forget or disbelieve what Isaac Newton had to say. If his books were wrong, then they probably should be burned, but the burning of them is not what makes them wrong.

The same is true of the US flag. The flag is a symbol of the US, it is not the country itself. If the behavior of the US is good, burning the flag will not make it bad, and if the behavior of this country is bad, then it's flag probably should be burned. Why would this make people angry? The only reason I can think of, is if the people in this country had behaved badly, and wanted to continue to behave badly, but did not want to think about how bad they were, or have anyone else draw attention to it.

Books and flags CONTAIN ideas, they are not the ideas in and of themselves. Thinking that you can destroy or dirty an idea by burning a book that contains that idea, is like thinking that you can kill a person's soul by killing their body. You must think that your ideas, your faith, and your soul are very weak indeed, if they can be so easily hurt.

Regarding your statement that it doesn't matter what I think, that is a very dangerous attitude to have. Since God does not talk to very many people, very often, if you don't do your own thinking, you will be controlled by clever and evil people, who will TELL you what to think. And if you don't do any thinking of your own, how will you know whether what these other people tell you is good or bad? You say that what matters is clarity of purpose once you submit to Allah? What if a clever and evil liar tells you that some act is the will of Allah? Without being able to think on your own, how will you know whether he is lying or not?

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

I responded because you posted and I was confused. It did not make sense. It is that simple. You went around the moon and back. Truth is never confused. It is simple. It is.

You have missed the boat on what I wrote.

With submission to the Creator of the Universe, the First and the Last, the Lord of Mankind you become serious in your thinking.

See, faith has aspects that are simple. And I will put it in simple words. When you submit to Allah, He has your back. You can not be fooled for too long. I stand on firm ground. Think of the court of Pharaoh. All the magic they had i.e. false reasoning disappeared in the presence of Truth.

Submitting to the Will of Allah is the culmination of thinking. Men do not become serious until they are mature i.e 40 about faith. It takes that long for man to think it out. That is a lot of moons.

As Muslims we have better things to do than burn a silly symbol of oppression. That is silly. Two minutes later the US Army will requisition China to make one million more flags out of the taxpayers money.

No, my attitude is not dangerous. I do not have time to worry about those who chose not to embrace the Truth. The road to Paradise is a one way street. How am I going to be controlled by dangerous people when I have submitted to my Creator. No-one has my mind. I did this one all by myself.

Islam has given me a brothers and sisters in faith. It has allowed me to utilize my brain. I have prayer to fall back on, and I have the promise of Allah that protects me from evil. It is that simple.

No, my attitude is not dangerous. I am not on dangerous grounds. Those who do not embrace Islam are on dangerous ground. I know who I want to meet and I know where I am going. The Path is illuminated in front of me. I am no longer to worry about what those who do not Believe think. That is a complete waste of time. And I am tired of trying to please those who mock my faith. No more.

As for the flag-burning Muslims...go home and say your salah. We have work to do. Do not make it harder on your brothers and sisters.

 

[septithol]

Assalaam walaikum,

I responded because you posted and I was confused. It did not make sense. It is that simple. You went around the moon and back. Truth is never confused. It is simple. It is.

Heh. Try studying quantum physics. There are small particles, which, if you turn them completely around, will NOT look the same as they did before. Some of them, you have to turn them completely around TWICE, before they will appear the same way they did before you began turning them. Others, if you turn them around three times, will appear the same twice, or if you turn them around two times, will appear the same THREE times.

When you are able to understand that, which is the truth God has created in this universe (since God created the particles this way) then you might be able to understand the things I have to say.

 

[Ershad]

Aapa, first of all, I'm curious as to why you responded to my post, and tell me it is wrong, when by your own admission, you are not able to understand it, and are confused by it. It is rather as if I, who am unable to read Arabic, were to arrogantly tell someone that some post of theirs, which was written in Arabic, was wrong. I would be very arrogant indeed to say such a thing, if I could not even read or otherwise not understand their post. The only thing I should have to say about such a post would be to humbly ask the person to explain it to me, in a way I could understand, or if the gap in my knowledge was too great, to ask them for books to educate myself.

Secondly, Isaac Newton has not been 'disproved' so much as he has been added onto. His equations are accurate for most conditions. The conditions for which his equations do not work are very extreme, such as objects moving faster than 100,000 miles per second. They were not aware of these conditions during Newton's day, much less, capable of creating them in particle accelerators.

What Isaac Newton has to do with burning the US flag is this: There are only two logical possibilities. Either Newton's ideas about gravity were right, or they were not right. If they were right, burning a book about them will not make them wrong, nor will it cause people to suddenly forget or disbelieve what Isaac Newton had to say. If his books were wrong, then they probably should be burned, but the burning of them is not what makes them wrong.

The same is true of the US flag. The flag is a symbol of the US, it is not the country itself. If the behavior of the US is good, burning the flag will not make it bad, and if the behavior of this country is bad, then it's flag probably should be burned. Why would this make people angry? The only reason I can think of, is if the people in this country had behaved badly, and wanted to continue to behave badly, but did not want to think about how bad they were, or have anyone else draw attention to it.

Books and flags CONTAIN ideas, they are not the ideas in and of themselves. Thinking that you can destroy or dirty an idea by burning a book that contains that idea, is like thinking that you can kill a person's soul by killing their body. You must think that your ideas, your faith, and your soul are very weak indeed, if they can be so easily hurt.

Regarding your statement that it doesn't matter what I think, that is a very dangerous attitude to have. Since God does not talk to very many people, very often, if you don't do your own thinking, you will be controlled by clever and evil people, who will TELL you what to think. And if you don't do any thinking of your own, how will you know whether what these other people tell you is good or bad? You say that what matters is clarity of purpose once you submit to Allah? What if a clever and evil liar tells you that some act is the will of Allah? Without being able to think on your own, how will you know whether he is lying or not?

Just a question.

I agree about why we should think. I admire and study science. But, for me faith comes first. And Allah asks us to ponder and think about his words in Qur'an. Regarding burning of Qur'an and blasphemy and issues like that, where would you draw the line?

Because these things offend people. Lets say the people allow burning Qur'an, allow abusing the Prophet SAW, allow people to walk around half-naked, allow people to do stuff they think is right. Where does it end? If someone harms a guy physically because he had a stupid reason to do so, would you say that is fine too? Because, if you don't have a line, the line keeps moving farther.

So where should be the line according to you?

P.S. : People interested in Newton's gravity controversy, Read this: http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/04/is-gravity-a-result-of-thermodynamics.ars

 

[Aapa]

Assalaam walaikum,

The end of quantum physics is the same as the begining of quantum physics..which one of My Wonders will you deny. I am the First and I am the Last. It starts with Me and Ends with me.

All your knowledge is from Me.

The physical transforms very easily. That is what He has revealed to us. But the essence.that is His Domain.

Do you think for a minute that I would be bedazzled by anything but Him. Every discipline points to Him.

Yeah.. I played with the cat and it walked me to Allah.

What is stopping you from thinking it all the way through.

 

[Hard Rock Moslem]

As a supporter of freedom, I support the right of people to protest whatever they like, by burning whatever inanimate object they like, whether it be the US flag, the Saudi Arabian Flag, the Bible, the Koran, effigies of various politicians, or a bag of Marshmallows, provided the following 2 things are true:

1. The burned object belongs to them, and they didn't steal it.
2. They take care not to let the fire get out of control, so that it burns up buildings, people, or large areas of forests or grass.

Pursuant to your reply to me, I would like to revisit and ’m trying to understand your statement above.

You do not support burning any desired objects in general during protest march, you never said you support meaning you in person will never do that also. But you support their rights to do so, those wish to burn to show their stupid anger over another religion or country. Although you do not support burning them in the first place, but you will support them if they feel it is their rights to burn any provocative objects, say Bible or Quran, so you support their rights provided the Bible or the Quran must be belongs to those people who wish to burn them and provoke people from the faith to react.. you are saying I can buy a Bible and burn them on the street then you will support me because it is my rights to do so. Hey, this is very irresponsible act and could provoke bloody counter protest and you support?

If the action and reaction turn ugly and lead into bloodshed, will you take responsibility? I support people to protest on the street but in a civilise manner.