tax on christians and jews

blackivy393

Junior Member
i heard before there was a tax put on christians and jews but i only heard it was done in order to encourage conversion to islam. does anyone know the reasoning
Prophet Muhammad had behind this tax
 

samiha

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As per encouraging to Islaam, I dont have knowledge about that, but I think it should be made clear that the jizyah is not just asking for a tax with no other benefit for them, rather it's a two way deal.

A disbeliever who pays the jizyah is called a dhimmi - and they are of the categories of people who live in the Muslim state and this is a form of contract upon them. As long as they pay it, then the Muslim state agrees to protect their lives, honor, and in general any transgression which could come against them.

If they cannnot fulifill these rights then this tax is returned/not taken at that time.

Historically it can be seen that those ruled over had no objection to this, as it gave them rights in their state and protection which other tyrants and conquerers had not given before.

I hope that clarified a little bit.
 
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Ishaq Syua'ib

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I Understand Black Ivy Point

I understand Black Ivy 393 point, actually Rasulullah told that when 'Isa (Yeshua) 'Alaihi Salaam descend to the earth near the Day of Resurrection, he will erase Jizyah, and he with imam Mahdi and best Muslims, will wage war to every Kafirin, and the result will be the victory of Muslimin.

He lives in the 3rd sky, without getting older, still alive, never crucified, never died, because he was taken up to the sky at 30 or 33 years old, while the one got crucified, was other person made appear as him by Allahu 'Azza wa Jalla, in other people eyes.

Assalamu'alaikum wa rahmatullaah wa barakaatuh.
 

island muslim

Junior Member
i heard before there was a tax put on christians and jews but i only heard it was done in order to encourage conversion to islam. does anyone know the reasoning
Prophet Muhammad had behind this tax

Salaam Alaiykum.

As far as I can recall from my lessons on this matter its not to encourage the christians and jews to embrace Islam for why would it encourage them when the Jizyaa (tax on "dhimmi" or non muslims in a muslim state) was 2% WHILE MUSLIMS paid MORE when even zakat itself is 2.5%. So the claim by muslim hate sites that this tax was done to encourage christians and jews to convert to Islam is not true.
Also the "dhimmi" who paid jizyaa got in return protection and need not serve in the muslim state military as a soldier even during times of war.
While the muslims pays MORE in terms of tax and had to serve in the military wduring times of war.

Barakallah feeki
 

cmelbouzaidi

Junior Member
Assalamu alaikoum dear sister,

I posted this thread some time ago but only one person read it...lol! I hope you find it useful.

Wassalam


Jizya Tax

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I found this article posted on www.guidetosalvation.com when I was searching for answers about jizya tax. Comments are welcome.

REFUTING ALLEGATIONS AGAINST 9:29

(JIZYA TAX)

Chapter 9, verse 29 of the Qur'an reads:

"Fight those of the People of the Book who do not [truly] believe in God and the Last Day, who do not forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden, who do not obey the rule of justice, until they pay the tax and agree to submit."

It's important to note that the Arabic word that is translated to tax is "jizya", which means 'payment in return'. Muslims pay what is called Zakah, which is every adult that is mentally stable, and financially able is required to pay to certain groups of people as outlined in the Qur'an chapter 9 verse 60:

"Alms are meant only for the poor, the needy, those who administer them, those whose hearts need winning over, to free slaves and help those in debt, for God's cause, and for travelers in need. This is ordained by God; God is all knowing and wise."

People of the Book living in Muslim territories were required to pay jizya. As stated above, jizya means 'payment in return'. What they're getting in return is protection from the Muslim state along with all the benefits and exemptions from military service. Also, they were also exempt from paying the Muslim tax (zakah). This tax was only required of able-bodied men that have attained puberty, and exempted monks. This tax was ridiculously low (one dinar per year.)

So basically it was a situation where the state protected the Jews and Christians, gave them all the benefits, didn't make them risk their lives as the Muslims did, and didn't require them to pay the zakah tax, which is 2.5% of total savings, jewelry and property at the end of the year. Two quick points:

1. If an Muslim country came under attack , Muslims were required to defend it. Christians and Jews didn't need to ever raise a sword, but were still protected because their payment of jizya earned them the protection of the Muslims.

2. While Muslims were required to pay 2.5% of their savings, jewelry, and property, Christians and Jews were not required to pay jizya on property, livestock, crops or produce, and only paid at all if they could afford it. Who do you think has the more difficult burden?

3. It comes down to this. Muslims pay the higher Zakah tax and are required to defend their country (including Jews and Christians.) Jews and Christians paid a lower tax and didn't need to ever fight.

So that jizya tax wasn't a penalty or meant as punishment, it was a tax that helped run the state. If we refuse to pay taxes in the U.S., we end up in prison. The argument that everyone has to pay the same tax could be made, but again, the tax on Christians and Jew was low, and not required of those that couldn't afford it. And everyone was taxed, Muslims with any decent or semi-decent amount of savings were required to pay much more than Christians and Jews. Some countries today execute tax evaders (China). How can Christians and Jews demand all the rights of Muslims, plus protection without ever needed to step into a battlefield for nothing in return, while Muslims that do fight to defend the country, including Christians and Jews are required to pay zakah, which in most cases is much higher than jizya anyway?

The Romans at the time levied high taxes trying to support their military conquests. The following is from: http://www.crystalinks.com/romanempire7.html

"There is no simple explanation for the collapse of the Western Roman Empire, but several interconnected elements provide some answers. The demands of the military and the growing bureaucracy forced the government to seek more income. When the elite avoided taxes, the burden fell on the peasantry, who had barely enough to feed themselves and no surplus to pay taxes. When farmers fled the land, incomes declined still further and manpower shortages forced the military to hire German mercenaries."

Unlike the Roman Government, the Muslim states protected the poor, women, children, and monks while exempting them from having to pay the jizya tax. Christian and Jews were also given equal rights, and allowed to practice their religion. Also, they were allowed to build houses of worship, and their monks were tax exempt. That is tolerance.

The following comes from Wikipedia:

Under Caliph Umar the Zoroastrian Persians were given People of the Book status, and jizya was levied on them. Christian Arab tribes in the north of the Arabian Peninsula refused to pay jizya, but agreed to pay double the amount, and calling it sadaqa, a word meaning "alms" or "charity". According to Yusuf al-Qaradawi the name change was done for the benefit of the Christian tribesmen, "out of consideration for their feelings".[11] Fred Donner, however, in The Early Islamic Conquests, states that the difference between sadaqa and jizya is that the former was levied on nomads, whereas the latter was levied on settled non-Muslims. Donner sees sadaqa as being indicative of the lower status of nomadic tribes, so much so that that Christian tribesmen preferred to pay the jizya. Jabala b. al-Ayham of the B. Ghassan is reported asked Umar "Will you levy sadaqa from me as you would from the [ordinary] bedouin (al-'arab)?" Umar acceded to collecting jizya from him instead, as he did from other Christians.[12]

Sir Thomas Arnold, an early 20th century orientalist, gives an example of a Christian Arab tribe which avoided paying the jizya altogether by fighting alongside Muslim armies "such was the case with the tribe of al-Jurajimah, a Christian tribe in the neighborhood of Antioch, who made peace with the Muslims, promising to be their allies and fight on their side in battle, on condition that they should not be called upon to pay jizya and should receive their proper share of the booty".[13]

In his message to the people of Al-Hirah, Khalid bin Walid is recorded as saying (in reference to the jizya), "When a person is too old to work or suffers a handicap, or when he falls into poverty, he is free from the dues of the poll tax; his sustenance is provided by the Muslim Exchequer."[14] A letter attributed to Khalid bin Walid said that "This is a letter of Khalid ibn al-Waleed to Saluba ibn Nastuna and his people; I agreed with you on al-jezyah and protection. As long as we protect you we have the right in al-jezyah, otherwise we have none.”[15]

According to Muslim accounts of Umar, in his time some payers of the jizya were compensated if they had not been cared for properly. The accounts vary, but describe his meeting an old Jew begging, and assisting him; according to one version:

Umar said to him, "Old man! We have not done justice to you. In your youth we realized Jizyah from you and have left you to fend for yourself in your old age". Holding him by the hand, he led him to his own house, and preparing food with his own hands fed him and issued orders to the treasurer of the Bait-al-mal that that old man and all others like him, should be regularly doled out a daily allowance which should suffice for them and their dependents.[16]

If Jizya is unfair on anyone, it would be the Muslims. They were, after all, required to pay higher taxes, and protect those that paid Jizya. Still, you never hear them complain, because that is what God ordered.
 

Mohsin

abdu'Allah
:salam2:
Assalamu alaikoum dear sister,

I posted this thread some time ago but only one person read it...lol! I hope you find it useful.

Wassalam


Jizya Tax

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:) Sister if you will check the link in my post just above yours you will find that its the link to your thread that you posted few days ago. I read it but did not respond, sorry, I should have :)
 

saif

Junior Member
jizzia does not have to be discriminatory

If state is raising zakat from muslims, it certainly has the right to raise a similar tax from non muslims, call it jizziah or whatever you like. But that jizziah has nothing to do with the jizziah mentioned in Surah Taubah verse 29. This is because the whole context of the Surah Taubah is different. It is dealing with the punishment, which the deniers of the Messengers always get and have always been getting in the past. Although, the verse itself nowhere says, if the Jizziah should be more than zakat, an amount greater than zakat had been collected because the Sahabah understood this Jizziah to be a punishment for the christians and jews to whome the message was conveyed by the prophet SAW himself and they chose not to embrace Islam (Itmaam-e-Hujjat). In fact, this is a great consession for the jews and christians in this context because the mushrikeen of Arabia did not have this choice.

It is clear, that those verses cannot be applied to christians and jews of today, so we have no reason to collect a discriminatory tax, a tax which is like a punishment. However, a tax must be collected to run the state affairs.
 

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