the bermuda triangle

azeabd

New Member
is the bermuda triangle myth real


cuz i heard tht in the prophet(PBUH) time sum guy got lost and ended up at a island and told every one tht once he was there he saw dajjal, and two othr monsters things


and also i heard tht there sumthing about enternal water

is it true?????


srry if it dusnt make sense i wrote it up quickly cuz i need ths question answered



thnx
 

Shamim56

Muslim Brother
The bermuda triangle has been proven false. The area of which its at has very high pressure on the bottom under the water. So what happens is that it releases a huge amount of pressure at one time and overwhelms a ship or an airpline flying very low to the ocean
 

thariq2005

Praise be to Allah!
any authentication from any Hadith?
If so plz provide me.

:salam2:

I don't know about the whole bermuda triangle thingy, but I do know about the hadith and it is authentic. The hadith to what I remember indicates that Dajjal has been living since the time of Messenger of Allaah :saw2:. Below is the hadith, wa salaamu 'alaikkum


It was narrated that Faatimah bint Qays (may Allaah be pleased with her) said:

I heard the voice of the caller, the caller of the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), saying: Al-salaatu jaami’ah (prayer is about to begin), so I went out to the mosque and I prayed with the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). I was in the women’s row that was closest to the people. When the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) had finished his prayer, he sat on the minbar and he was smiling. He said: “Let each person stay in the place where he just prayed.” Then he said: “Do you know why I called you together?”

They said: Allaah and His Messenger know best. He said:

He said: “By Allah, I did not call you together for an exhortation or for a warning. I have called you together because Tameem al-Daari was a Christian and he came and swore allegiance and became Muslim, and told me something which agrees with what I was telling you about the Dajjaal (false messiah). He told me that he sailed in a ship with thirty men of Lakhm and Judhaam and they were tossed by the waves of the sea for a month. Then they came to an island at sunset. They sat in a small rowing-boat and landed on that island. They were met by a beast with a great deal of hair and they could not distinguish his face from his back because he was so hairy. They said: ‘Woe to you, what are you?’ It said: ‘I am al-Jassaasah.’ They said: ‘What is al-Jassaasah?’ It said: ‘O people, go to this man in the monastery for he keen to know about you.’ He (the narrator) said: When it named a man for us we were afraid of it lest it be a devil. Then we set off, rushing, until we came to that monastery, where we found the hugest man we had ever seen, bound strongly in chains with his hands tied to his neck and his legs bound from the knees to the ankles with iron shackles. We said: ‘Woe to you, who are you?’ He said: ‘You will soon find out about me; tell me who you are.’ They said: ‘We are people from Arabia who embarked on a ship, but the sea became wild and the waves tossed us about for one month, then they brought us to this island of yours. We took to the rowing-boats and landed on this island. We were met by a beast with a great deal of hair and we could not tell his front from his back because he was so hairy. We said: Woe to you, what are you? It said: I am al-Jassaasah. We said: What is al-Jassaasah? It said: Go to this man in the monastery for he is keen to know about you. So we came rushing to you and we fled from it because we could not be sure that it was not a devil.’ He (that chained person) said: ‘Tell me about the date-palm trees of Baysaan.’ We said: ‘What do you want to know about them?’ He said: ‘I am asking you whether these trees bear fruit.’ We said: ‘Yes.’ He said: ‘Soon they will not bear fruit.’ He said: ‘Tell me about the lake of Tabariyyah’ We said: ‘What do you want to know about it?’ He said: ‘Is there water in it?’ They said: ‘There is a great deal of water in it.’ He said: ‘Soon it will dry up.’ Then he said: ‘Tell me about the spring of Zughar (which is in the south of Syria).’ They said: ‘What do you want to know about it?’ He said: ‘Is there water in the spring and do the people grow crops with the water of the spring?’ We said to him: ‘Yes, there is plenty of water in it and the people grow crops with its water.’ He said: ‘Tell me about the Prophet if the unlettered; what has he done?’ We said: ‘He has left Makkah and has settled in Yathrib (Madeenah).’ He said: ‘Do the Arabs fight against him?’ We said: ‘Yes.’ He said: ‘How did he deal with them?’ We told him that he had prevailed over the Arabs in his vicinity and they had shown obedience to him. He said to us: ‘Has it really happened?’ We said: ‘Yes.’ He said: ‘If it is so that is better for them that they show obedience to him. Now I will tell you about myself. I am the Dajjaal and soon I will be given permission to emerge. So I will come out and travel in the land, and will not spare any town but I will stay for forty nights, except Makkah and Taybah (Madeenah). They are both forbidden to me; every time I try to enter one of them, I will be met by an angel with a sword in his hand, who will bar my way, and on every route there will be angels guarding it.’ She said: Then the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) struck the minbar with his staff and said: “This is Taybah, this is Taybah, this is Taybah,” meaning Madeenah. “Did I net tell you this before?” The people said: Yes. [The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:] “I liked the story of Tameem because it agrees with what I used to tell you about him and about Makkah and Madeenah. But he is in the Syrian Sea (Mediterranean) or the Yemeni Sea (Arabian Sea). No, rather he is in the east, he in the east, he is in the east,” and he pointed towards the east with his hand. She said: I memorized this from the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him).


Narrated by Muslim in his Saheeh (2942), so it is a saheeh hadeeth. It was also narrated by the scholars in their books, with their isnaads from Faatimah bint Qays (may Allaah be pleased with her). Al-Tirmidhi (may Allaah have mercy on him) said in al-Jaami’ al-Saheeh (2253): This is a saheeh ghareeb hadeeth. End quote. Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr said in al-Istidhkaar (7/338): It is saheeh in its isnaad and transmission.
 

Summer03

3doTs2sQuares
Asalamu alaikum.

Jazakumullahi khair for the Hadith. It is a really frightening situation. More than 1400 years later....its only closer to it's date of emergence.

Ya Allah I seek refuge in You from the false messiah!
 

Al-Kashmiri

Well-Known Member
Staff member
As-salaamu `alaykum

Bermuda Triangle has no relation to Dajjaal, and Allaah knows best. When I investigated this argument years ago, I found it lay with the shi`a who are hardly a source of guidance. In fact, if you look at all the ahadeeth about the subject, there would be more proof to suggest that the dajjaal is amongst them or is their awaited Imaam, as oppose to him residing in the Carribean. In addition, some ahaadeeth indicate that the Dajjaal will emerge from the East. There are narrations recorded by Muslim and others, where the Prophet, sall Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, said that the horn of Shaytaan will come from the direction of East/`Iraq, others stating he will lead his Army with the Jews of Isfahan etc.

Instead of looking to these "supernatural" myths, we should look to what the sunnah says about this matter.

Was-salaam
 

thariq2005

Praise be to Allah!
As-salaamu `alaykum

Bermuda Triangle has no relation to Dajjaal, and Allaah knows best. When I investigated this argument years ago, I found it lay with the shi`a who are hardly a source of guidance. In fact, if you look at all the ahadeeth about the subject, there would be more proof to suggest that the dajjaal is amongst them or is their awaited Imaam, as oppose to him residing in the Carribean. In addition, some ahaadeeth indicate that the Dajjaal will emerge from the East. There are narrations recorded by Muslim and others, where the Prophet, sall Allaahu `alayhi wasallam, said that the horn of Shaytaan will come from the direction of East/`Iraq, others stating he will lead his Army with the Jews of Isfahan etc.

Instead of looking to these "supernatural" myths, we should look to what the sunnah says about this matter.

Was-salaam

Ma shaAllaah finally found someone who agrees with me :) I kinda have that inclination too, and here is a lecture that took place in my local mosque, and the Sheikh who has a PhD in Shia'ism, talks about this.

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Listen carefully from 6.30...
You can watch other parts to it from the brother's channel, wa salaamu 'alaikkum
 

azeabd

New Member
The bermuda triangle has been proven false. The area of which its at has very high pressure on the bottom under the water. So what happens is that it releases a huge amount of pressure at one time and overwhelms a ship or an airpline flying very low to the ocean


actually it has nothing to do with pressure in christopher columbus's log book he wrote about passing through the area and see weird lights and fire in the sky

an i dont think he has any need to lie about it cuz it was 600 years ago
 

krackpot

slave warrior caged
:wasalam:

i think you are talking about hadith of Tamim Dari recorded in Sahih Muslim. #7028

its about sahabas goes to an island and they meet Dajjal there.

Click this for Hadith of Dajjal

brother this incident occured somewhere between india and srilanka, bermuda triangle is far far away.... as a matter of fact tamim dari is been buried in india.
refer to Bayaan of Dr.Bilal Phillips on the topic DAJJAL THE FALSE MESSIAH
 

Al-Kashmiri

Well-Known Member
Staff member
brother this incident occured somewhere between india and srilanka, bermuda triangle is far far away.... as a matter of fact tamim dari is been buried in india.
refer to Bayaan of Dr.Bilal Phillips on the topic DAJJAL THE FALSE MESSIAH

As-salaamu `alaykum

Can you post the specific proof?
 

RandyJackson

Junior Member
Didn't the Hadith mention East of Mecca? I once googled Dajjal's island, and one of the results was a scary looking island shaped like a snake. One guy calculated it to be 1 month away from Mecca(?) near India and Sri Lanka. But Allah knows best.

The island is called Deigo Garcia, and strangely enough there is A LOT of British/American activity there.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f4/Diegogarcia.jpg

http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/1/11/1692073/Distance Sanaa Diego Garcia.JPG

creepy.



But, who really cares? We should focus on today, and not tomorrow.
 
:salam2:

this is a rough translation of the hadith mentioned ^:

Book 041, Number 7028:
Amir b. Sharahil Sha'bi Sha'b Hamdan reported that he asked Fatima, daughter of Qais and sister of ad-Dahhak b. Qais and she was the first amongst the emigrant women: Narrate to me a hadith which you had heard directly from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and there is no extra link in between them. She said: Very well, if you like, I am prepared to do that, and he said to her: Well, do It and narrate that to me. She said: I married the son of Mughira and he was a chosen young man of Quraish at that time, but he fell as a martyr in the first Jihad (fighting) on the side of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him). When I became a widow, 'Abd al-Rahman b. Auf, one amongst the group of the Companions of Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him), sent me the proposal of marriage. Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) also sent me such a message for his freed slave Usama b. Zaid. And it had been conveyed to me that Allah's Messenger (way peace be upon him) had said (about Usama): He who loves me should also love Usima. When Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) talked to me (about this matter), I said: My affairs are in your hand. You may marry me to anyone whom you like. He said: You better shift now to the house of Umm Sharik, and Umm Sharik was a rich lady from amongst the Anqir. She spent generously for the cause of Allah and entertained guests very hospitably. I said: Well, I will do as you like. He said: Do not do that for Umm Sharik is a woman who is very frequently vizited by guests and I do not like that your head may be uncovered or the cloth may be removed from your shank and the strangers may catch sight of them which you abhor. You better shift to the house of your cousin 'Abdullah b. 'Amr b. Umm Maktum and he is a person of the Bani Fihr branch of the Quraish, and he belonged to that tribe (to which Fatima) belonged. So I shifted to that house, and when my period of waiting was over, I heard the voice of an announcer making an announcement that the prayer would be observed in the mosque (where) congregational prayer (is observed).


So I set out towards that mosque and observed prayer along with Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and I was in the row of the women which was near the row of men. When Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) had finished his prayer, he sat on the pulpit smiling and said: Every worshipper should keep sitting at his place. He then said: Do you know why I had asked you to assemble? They said: Allah and His Messenger know best. He said: By Allah. I have not made you assemble for exhortation or for a warning, but I have detained you here, for Tamim Dari, a Christian, who came and accepted Islam, told me something, which agrees with what I was-telling, yuu about the Dajjal. He narrated to me that he had sailed in a ship along with thirty men of Bani Lakhm and Bani Judham and had been tossed by waves in the ocean for a month. Then these (waves) took them (near) the land within the ocean (island) at the time of sunset. They sat in a small side-boat and entered that Island. There was a beast with long thick hair (and because of these) they could not distinguish his face from his back. They said: Woe to you, who can you be? Thereupon it said: I am al-Jassasa. They said: What is al-Jassasa? And it said: O people, go to this person in the monastery as he is very much eager to know about you. He (the narrator) said: When it named a person for us we were afraid of it lest it should be a Devil. Then we hurriedly went on till we came to that monastery and found a well-built person there with his hands tied to his neck and having iron shackles between his two legs up to the ankles. We said: Woe be upon thee, who are you? And he said: You would soon come to know about me. but tell me who are you. We said: We are people from Arabia and we embarked upon a boat but the sea-waves had been driving us for one month and they brought as near this island. We got Into the side-boats and entered this island and here a beast met us with profusely thick hair and because of the thickness of his hair his face could not be distinguished from his back. We said: Woe be to thee, who are you? It said: I am al- Jassasa. We said: What is al-Jassasa? And it said: You go to this very person in the monastery for he is eagerly waiting for you to know about you. So we came to you in hot haste fearing that that might be the Devil. He (that chained person) said: Tell me about the date-palm trees of Baisan. We &aid: About what aspect of theirs do you seek information? He said: I ask you whether these trees bear fruit or not.


We said: Yes Thereupon he said: I think these would not bear fruits. He said: Inform me about the lake of Tabariyya? We said: Which aspect of it do you want to know? He said: Is there water in it? They said: There is abundance of water in it. Thereupon he said: I think it would soon become dry. He again said: Inform me about the spring of Zughar. They said: Which aspect of it you want to know? He (the chained person) said: Is there water in it and does it irrigate (the land)? We said to him: Yes, there is abundance of water in it and the inhabitants (of Medina) irrigate (land) with the help of it, He said: Inform me about the unlettered Prophet; what has he done? We said: He has come out from Mecca and has settled In Yathrib (Medina). He said: Do the Arabs fight against him? We said: Yes. He said: How did he deal with him? We informed him that he had overcome those in his neighbourhood and they had submitted themselves before him. Thereupon he said to us: Had it actually happened? We said: Yes. Thereupon he said: If it is so that is better for them that they should show obedience to him. I am going to tell you about. myself and I am Dajjal and would be soon permitted to get out and so I shall get out and travel in the land, and will not spare any town where I would not stay for forty nights except Mecca and Medina as these two (places) are prohibited (areas) for me and I would not make an attempt to enter any one of these two. An angel with a sword in his hand would confront me and would bar my way and there would be angels to guard every passage leading to it; then Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) striking the pulpit with the help of the end of his staff said: This implies Taiba meaning Medina. Have I not, told you an account (of the Dajjal) like this? 'The people said: Yes, and this account narrated by Tamim Dari was liked by me for it corroborates the account which I gave to you in regard to him (Dajjal) at Medina and Mecca. Behold he (Dajjal) is in the Syrian sea (Mediterranian) or the Yemen sea (Arabian sea). Nay, on the contrary, he As In the east, he is in the east, he is in the east, and he pointed with his hand towards the east. I (Fatima bint Qais) said: I preserved It In my mind (this narration from Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him).




If you want to search for this hadith yourself, use keywords: dajjal and christian. This translation I obtained from compodium of muslim texts at USC: http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/search.html
do bear in mind the translators of the hadith are unknown to me but it appears that they copy and pasted on their database from other software or vica versa. And I am unable at the moment to go over Arabic to English translation to say with certainty it is accurate.



:wasalam:


 

Shamim56

Muslim Brother
actually it has nothing to do with pressure in christopher columbus's log book he wrote about passing through the area and see weird lights and fire in the sky

an i dont think he has any need to lie about it cuz it was 600 years ago

Really, I actually saw it on the science channel when they were trying to figure out and they did tests and found a huge amount of pressure under the earths surface. Also I have a question about Columbus, he was headed for india.No offense to Columbus but.., I wouldn't be surprised if he was drunk during his voyage.
 

misbah ul haya

Junior Member
is the bermuda triangle myth real


cuz i heard tht in the prophet(PBUH) time sum guy got lost and ended up at a island and told every one tht once he was there he saw dajjal, and two othr monsters things


and also i heard tht there sumthing about enternal water

is it true?????


srry if it dusnt make sense i wrote it up quickly cuz i need ths question answered



thnx
i have recently read a book about bermuda triangle..........as written in book either dajjal or iblees palace is there.there is another place near japan called as dragon's triangle which also has some relation with bermuda triangle.
But ofcourse its upon us that we agree with writer or not because he gave his investigations..............the proofs which he gave were that if this place has no relation with dajjal then on disappearance of valuable ships, fighter planes why nobody took any step.
this triangle lie near florida(this word means 'city of god who is being awaited') and normal flights come and go above this place but why only atomic submarines, best fighters of time drowned there........
for more information read the book''the bermuda triangle'' by ''charles berilter''.
 
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