Unification of Religions

Abu Sarah

Allahu Akbar
Staff member
The Presidency of Islamic Research and Ifta

Praise be to Allaah alone, and salaat and salaam be upon Muhammad, his family, companions, and those who righteously follow him until the Day of Judgment.

The Permanent Committee for Islamic Research and Ifta has reviewed the inquiries, opinions and essays propagated in the mass media concerning the
"Call for the Unification of Religions" ie; Islam, Judaism, and Christianity, and studied what has originated from the call to:

· Build a Mosque, a Church, and a Jewish Temple in one area, especially in universities, airports, and public squares etc.
· Print the Noble Qur'an, the Torah, and the Bible in one book.
· Other consequences of such a call in the form of conferences, symposiums,
and solicitations to be established both in the East and the West.

After comprehensive study the committee resolves the following:-

1. One of the fundamentals of Faith in Islam, which is known as an essential part of the religion and upon which all Muslims have agreed, is that there is no true religion on the earth except Islam, and that it is the Final religion which abrogated all previous religuions and creeds. Therefore, no other religion remains on earth by which Allaah can be worshipped except Islam. Allaah The Most High says, "And whoever seeks a religion other than
Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers." [Al-Qur'an 3:85].

2. One of the fundamentals of faith in Islam is what Allaah's Book (the Qur'an) is the last Book that was revealed by the Cherisher of the Worlds. It abrogated all the Books revealed by Allaah before it, such as the Torah, the Psalms, and the Bible, and as such no other Book has been left by which Allaah can be worshipped except the Qur'an. Allaah, The Most High, says, "And We have sent down to you (O Muhammad) the Book (the Qur'an) in truth, confirming the Scriptures that came before it, and trustworthy in highness and a witness over it (old scriptures). So judge between them by what Allaah has revealed, and follow not their vain desires." [Al-Qur'an] 5:48]

3. It is our belief that both the Torah and the Bible were abrogated by the Qur'an, and that they were changed by means of additions or deletions by their followers. This was indicated in some verses in Allaah's Book - the Noble Qur'an. Allaah, The Most High, says in His Qur'an, "So because of their breach of their covenant, We cursed them, and made their hearts grow hard. They change the words from their (right) places and have abandoned a good part of the Message that was sent to them. And you will not cease to discover deceit in them, except a few of them." [Al-Qur'an 5:13]

"Then woe to those who write the Book with their own hands and then say, 'This is from Allaah.' To purchase with it a little price! Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for thet they earn thereby."
[Al-Qur'an 2:79]

"And verily, among them is a party who distort the Book with their tongue (as they read), so that you may think it is from the Book, but it is not from the Book, and they say, 'This is from Allaah', but it is not from Allaah; and they speak a lie against Allaah while they know it." [Al-Qur'an 3:78]

Accordingly, even whatever is considered as correct in these Books, has been abrogated by Islam. The remaining parts are altered. This is proved by the following incident. The Prophet (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam) got angry when he saw 'Umar ibn Al-Khattab holding a sheet containing some verses from the Torah and he said to him, "O 'Umar! Are you in doubt? Have I not brought (the Message) as clear as white? If my brother Musa ('alaihi salam) had been alive, he would have followed me." Narrated by Ahmed, Ad-Daarimi and others.

4. Another fundamental of Faith in Islam is that our Prophet and Messenger Muhammad (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam) id the seal of all the prophets and messengers. Allaah says, "Muhammad (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam) is not the father of any man among you, but he is the Messenger of Allaah and the last (end) of the Prophets. And Allaah is Ever All-Aware of everuthing." [Al-Qur'an 33:40] As such, no other messenger is left to be followed except Muhammad (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam).

If any of Allaah's Prophets and Messengers had been alive, they too along with their followers would have followed Muhammad (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam). Allaah, The Most High, says, "And (Remember) when Allaah took the Covenant of the Prophets saying 'Take whatever I gave you from the Book and Hikmah (understanding of the Laws of Allaah etc.) and afterwards there will come to you a messenger (Muhammad) confirming what is with you. You must then believe in him and help him.' Allaah said: 'Do you agree (to it) and will you take up My covenant (which I conclude with you)?' They said, 'We
agree'. He said, 'Then bear witness; and I am with you among the witnesses (for this)." [Al-Qur'an 3:81]

When Jesus ('alaihi salam), the Prophet of Allaah, comes in a later time he will follow Muhammad (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam) and rule according to Muhammad's (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam) legislation. Allaah, The Most High, says, "Those who follow the Messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write (Muhammad) whom they find written with them in the Taurah (Torah) [Deut. CVIII,15] and the Injeel [Gospel of John XIV,16]" [Al-Qur'an 7:157]

In addition, one of the basic pillars of faith in Islam is that Muhammad (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam) was ent to all human beings, and Allaah says, "Say (O Muhammad) 'O mankind! Verily, I am sent to you all as a Messenger of
Allaah - to Whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth, none has the right to be worshipped but He." [Al-Qur'an 7:158]

5. One of the fundamentals of Islam is that any Jew or Christian who does not embrace Islam should be considered and designated as an unbeliever (Kafir) as well as an enemy of Allaah, of His Messengers and the Believers (Muminoon), and such people will be the people of the Fire in accordance to Allaah's Saying, that, "Those who disbelieve from among the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) and among al-Mushrikun (Polytheists), were not going to leave (their disbelief) until there came to them clear evidence." [Al-Qur'an 98:1]

And Allaah says, "Verily, those who disbelieve (in the religion of Islam, the Qur'an, and the Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam)) from among the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians) and al-Mushrikun
(Polytheists) will abide in the Fire of Hell. They are the worst of creatures." [Al-Quran 98:6]

It was narrated in Sahih Muslim that the Prophet (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam) said, "Anyone of this Ummah, whether a Jew or a Christian who heard about me and died without believing in what was revealed to me, he will be among the people of the Hell-Fire."

Based on the above, anyone who does not charge Jews and Christians with Kufr will be a Kaafir himself according to the Shari'ah principle. (ie; Anyone who does not charge the Kaafir with Kufr will be Kaafir himself.)

6. Adulterating the fundamentals of Islamic Faith and the facts of Islamic Law (Shari'ah) to serve the call (for the unification of religions), by mixing them together and casting them to one mould is but a wicked call. It aims at mixing the Truth with Falsehood, destroying Islam, demolishing its foundations and bringing all Muslims to clear apostasy (Riddah). This can be seen in the saying of Allaah, The Most High, "And they will never cease fighting you until they turn you back from your religion (Islamic Monotheism) if they can." [Al-Qur'an 2:217]. Allaah Says, "They wish that you reject faith, as they have rejected (Faith), and thus that you will become equal (like one another)." [Al-Qur'an 4:89]

7. The inevitable consequence of such evil calls are:

· The cancellation of differences between Islam and Kufr, Truth and Falsehood, and complete negation of enjoining the right and forbidding the wrong.

· Breaking of barriers of alienation between Muslims and Kafiroon (unbelievers) so that no loyalty nor Jihad nor struggle for the sake of elevating Allaah's Word on Allaah's earth may take place. Allaah, The Most High, commands "Fight against those who (1) do not believe in Allaah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allaah and His Messenger, (4) those who acknowledge not the religion of Truth - ie Islam, among the people of the Scriptures (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." [Al-Qur'an 9:29]

"And fight against the Mushrikun (polytheists, pagans, idolators, disbelievers in the oneness of Allaah) collectively, as they fight against you collectively. But know that Allaah is with the pious." [Al-Qur'an 9:36]

Had this (unification) call emanated from a Muslim, it would be considered explicit Riddah (apostasy) from Islam, as it is in conflict with the principles of Islamic faith, and accepts disbelief in Allaah - The Glorified. This call annuls what was proved by the Qur'an as true, and denies that the Qur'an has abrogated all the books that preceded it, and also negates that Islam had abrogated all the previous religions. Based on this, the call for unification is rejected according to Shari'ah and is strictly prohibited by all evidences of Islam in the Qur'an, the Sunnah, and Ijmaa' (consensus).

Based on the aforesaid:

· It is not permissible for any Muslim who believes in Allaah as the Rabb (Creator/Provider/Owner), in Islam as the religion, and Muhammad (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam) as a Prophet and Messenger, to call for this abominable belief, or encourage others to join it, or spread it among other Muslims, let alone accepting it, attending its conferences or symposiums and affiliating with its assemblies.

· It is prohibited for any Muslim to print the Torah and the Bible even independently. So how could it be permissible to print them with the Qur'an in one book? Accordingly, whoever does that, or calls for it, has strayed far away (from the Right Path), as this is but a combination of the Truth (the Noble Qur'an) with the altered or abrogated books of the Torah and the Bible.

· It is prohibited for any Muslim to respond to that call for building (a mosque, a church, and a temple) in one complex, as this would imply a confession that there are religions by which Allaah can be worshipped, besides Islam. This would also involve a denial that Islam is the purest of all the other religions. It would also imply a serious admission that religions are three and that people on earth may adopt whatever they wish of them, equally, and that Islam has not superseded the religions that preceded it.

· Undoubtedly, approving, believing, or accepting this call is considered Kufr (disbelief) and explicit error as it plainly contradicts the Noble Qur'an, the Purified Sunnah, and the Muslim Ijmaa' (consensus). It would also imply an agreement that the alterations done by the Jews and Christians are from Allaah - Glory Be to Him. Moreover, it is not permissible to call churches, Allaah's houses', as the Christians do not perform a correct worship that is accepted by Allaah, and it is a kind of worship not based on
Islam. Allaah, The Most High, Says, "And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the hereafter he will be one of the losers." [Al-Qur'an 3:85]

Rather they - (churches) are houses where Kufr in Allaah is practiced. We seek refuge with Allaah from Kufr and those who belong to it. Shaykh Al-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (may Allaah rest his soul in peace) stated in "Majmoo`
Al-Fatawa" (collection of Islamic Rulings) 162/22, as follows:-

"Churches and Synagogues are not Allaah's houses, but Allaah's Houses are the Mosques. Rather, they (churches and synagogues) are houses of Kufr even though Allaah's name is mentioned in them. Houses are regarded acording to the creed of the people. These people rejected Allaah's last Prophet (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam) and as such they are Kuffaar (disbelievers), hence theirs are but houses designated for the worship practiced by the Kuffaar."

It is noteworthy that calling the Kuffaar in general and the People of the Book in particular to Islam is incumbent upon all Muslims as per the explicit texts of our Noble Book, the Qur'an, and the Sunnah. However, a response may not be achieved except through kind words and sound arguments. It should, nonetheless, be done on condition not to drop any of the rules of Islam, so that they might either be convinced of Islam and embrace it, or
reject it and die after a clear warning (had been given) to them. Allaah, The Most High, Says, "Say (O Muhammad) 'O People of the Scripture! (Jews and Christians) Come to a word that is Just between us and you, that we worship none but Allaah, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords, besides Allaah. Then if they turn away, say, 'I bear witness that we are Muslims.'" [Al-Quran 3:64]

However, debates, meetings, and dialogue held with them in order to enable them in achieving their desires, fulfilling their aims, breaking the bonds of Islam, and bending the Fundamentals of Islamic Faith are all considered as invalid, which is rejected by Allaah, His Messenger (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam), and all believers. Allaah, The Most High, Says, "And follow not their vain desires, but beware of them lest they turn you (O Muhammad) far
away from some of that which Allaah has sent down to you." [Al-Qur'an 5:49]

The committee, in resolving and issuing this verdict for all people also seeks all Muslims in general and scholars in particular, to fear Allaah and protect Islam and preserve the Muslim Creed from error, and its callers to error and from Kufr and its people.

It also urges them to take precautions against this obvious Call for Unbelief (for the Unification of Religions) and against falling into its traps. We seek refuge with Allaah for every Muslim from becoming a reason for bringing such an error to the Muslim nations and dpreading it among them. We ask Allaah by His Supreme Names and Attributes to protect us from these devious afflictions and make us guides and be guided to The Right Path, and
majke us protectors of Islam deriving light and guidance from our Rabb till we meet Him and he is pleased with us. He is the Grantor of success, and may His salaam be upon our Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu 'alaihi wa sallam) his family and all his companions.


The Permanent Committee for Academic Research and Ifta (Verdict)
Abdul-Aziz Ibn Baz, President
Abdul-Aziz Ibn Abdullah Al-Shaykh Abdullah, Vice President
Salih Ibn Fawzan Al-Fawzan, Member
Bakr Ibn Abdullah Abu Zaid, Member

Our final call is indeed, all praises are for Allaah, Lord of all the Worlds. His prayers and peace upon His Messenger Muhammad, his family and Companions and on all those who strive to follow them in goodness.

Was-salaam alaikum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatahu
 

Karima

Junior Member
Asalamualikum,

· It is prohibited for any Muslim to respond to that call for building (a mosque, a church, and a temple) in one complex, as this would imply a confession that there are religions by which Allaah can be worshipped, besides Islam.

Allah is the Arabic word for God. If people worship God in the Synagogue, and in the church, and it is not Allah, then WHO is it they are worshipping?

My point is that God is the God of Abraham, the God of Moses, the God of Jesus, the God of Muhammad. Is there a difference in God? I am referring to ONE GOD, who is worshipped in these different religions.

So WHO is being worshipped in the churches and synagogues?

Sallam
 

Karima

Junior Member
Asalamualikum,

One of the fundamentals of Islam is that any Jew or Christian who does not embrace Islam should be considered and designated as an unbeliever (Kafir) as well as an enemy of Allaah, of His Messengers and the Believers (Muminoon),

An unbeliever in God? Tell anyone who has prayed to God their entire life that they do not believe in God...?

If Allah is God, how can the Christians and Jews who pray and worship God be an enemy of God...Jehovah, El Shaddai, Allah, Eli, etc.?
 

Karima

Junior Member
Asalamualikum,

imply a confession that there are religions by which Allaah can be worshipped, besides Islam.

I have to ask, is God being worshipped or Islam being worshipped?

Sallam
 

zarah

Islam
Staff member
Assalamu Alaikum

:bismillah:

:salam2:

I think sis you are walking towards the wrong end of the stick.I understand what you are trying to say.

There is no God except Allah(Swt).Worship only to Allah(Swt),Islam is a religion which is FOLLOWED by muslims.

"My point is that God is the God of Abraham, the God of Moses, the God of Jesus, the God of Muhammad. Is there a difference in God? I am referring to ONE GOD, who is worshipped in these different religions."

Everyone worships to a god but that is in their own personal view who they
label god as and make god to be.

:wasalam: :)
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Assalamu alaykum,

I dont think this article was aimed at non-Muslims or new Muslims, so in that way it is not helpful as there needs to be a degree of Islamic understanding which is required to "read between the lines" and know the more general concepts.

What is meant that Allah is not worshipped in Churches is the Shirk that happens, associating partners with God. So when people over glorify Jesus, imagine that he is listening to them and praising him instead of God.. this is not the true worship that God intended... Likewise, they will praise Mary and also various Saints etc.

Whereas in a Mosque, there are no statues, no images of people, the only worship is directed at Allah, there are no singing of hymns or prayers to the dead Saints, to Jesus etc....

Allaah, The Most High, Says, "Say (O Muhammad) 'O People of the Scripture! (Jews and Christians) Come to a word that is Just between us and you, that we worship none but Allaah, and that we associate no partners with Him, and that none of us shall take others as lords, besides Allaah. Then if they turn away, say, 'I bear witness that we are Muslims.'" [Al-Quran 3:64]

wasalam
 

Karima

Junior Member
Asalmualikum,

My point is that God is the God of Abraham, the God of Moses, the God of Jesus, the God of Muhammad. Is there a difference in God? I am referring to ONE GOD, who is worshipped in these different religions.

Who said anything about worshipping Jesus or Mary or the statues and pictures?

I was very careful not to bring them up, because I was only focusing on God as the subject matter. And others keep bringing up all these statues, and such....where in the church where I have attended, it is all concrete! And windows......No pictures, no one is instructed to pray to any statue, which is wrong to do, and no one is instructed to pray other than only to God.

The simple point was that I got the impression that the God named Allah is a different God than the one that I have prayed to since a child.....and I repeat, only one God.....not two or three....or four.....but ONE God.

This indicates to me that there is not an inviting wall, but a dividing wall of worship.

And not only that, but if Allah is God, then this settles it....Allah is prayed to in all faiths who believe in God. They just use the English word for God.

I agree with you about all the singing, etc....which can get out of hand. We never have prayers to the saints. There is no such thing as a dead saint.

What Islamicfjar put in the forum is a deep article. It is not an easy thing to read, but to understand exactly all of it. This has helped me to understand how others are viewed from a muslim's point of view. All of this is a learning experience for me. As I keep going up the hill of this path leading to Islam.

Sallam
 

msg4u

New Member
Asalamualikum,



An unbeliever in God? Tell anyone who has prayed to God their entire life that they do not believe in God...?

If Allah is God, how can the Christians and Jews who pray and worship God be an enemy of God...Jehovah, El Shaddai, Allah, Eli, etc.?

Wa Salaamu Alikum...

Hope you are doing well by the grace of Allah..

Non-muslims might pray to God(Allah) but that doesn't mean that they are not kaffir. Kaffir simply means an 'unbeliever'. They are 'unbeliever' because they don't believe in the last Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) and that Qur'an is the FINAL revelation..and there are more things that aren't similar with what the 'unbeliever' follow..Worshiping God meaning following He's laws. Now that's a different topic. And a kaffir is an enemy of Allah meaning that; when you don't follow Allah's path, you are an enemy(i.e. unbeliever, not a follower) untill you embrace the path of Allah.

May Allah open your heart and understand the truth..ameen

Salaam:)
 

Abu Sarah

Allahu Akbar
Staff member
salam alaykum....

sisters & brothers

In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.

[64] Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: that we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will)."

[65] Ye People of the Book! why dispute ye about Ibrahim, when the Law and the Gospel were not revealed till after him? Have ye no understanding?


[66] Ah! ye are those who fell to disputing (even) in matters of which ye had some knowledge! but why dispute ye in matters of which ye have no knowledge? It is Allah Who knows, and ye who know not!

[67] Ibrahim was not a Jew nor yet a Christian; but he was true in Faith, and bowed his will to Allah's (which is Islam), and he joined not gods with Allah.

[68] Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Ibrahim, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: and Allah is the Protector of those who have Faith

[68] Without doubt, among men, the nearest of kin to Ibrahim, are those who follow him, as are also this Prophet and those who believe: and Allah is the Protector of those who have Faith.

[69] It is the wish of a section of the People of the Book to lead you astray. But they shall lead astray (not you), but themselves, and they do not perceive!

[70] Ye People of the Book! why reject ye the Signs of Allah, of which ye are (yourselves) witnesses?

[71] Ye People of the Book! why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge?

[71] Ye People of the Book! why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge?

[72] A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the Believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back;

[73] "And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the guidance of Allah; (fear ye) lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) like unto that which was sent unto you? Or that those (receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah: He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: and Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things

[73] "And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the guidance of Allah; (fear ye) lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) like unto that which was sent unto you? Or that those (receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah: He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: and Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things."

[74] For His Mercy He specially chooseth whom He pleaseth; for Allah is the Lord of bounties unbounded.

[75] Among the People of the Book are some who, if entrusted with a hoard of gold, will (readily) pay it back; others, who, if entrusted with a single silver coin, will not repay it unless thou constantly stoodest demanding, because, they say, "There is no call on us (to keep faith) with these ignorant (Pagans)." But they tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it.

[76] Nay, those that keep their plighted faith and act aright, verily Allah loves those who act aright.

[77] As for those who sell the faith they owe to Allah and their own plighted word for a small price, they shall have no portion in the Hereafter: nor will Allah (deign to) speak to them or look at them on the Day of Judgment, nor will He cleanse them (of sin): they shall have a grievous Penalty

[78] There is among them a section who distort the Book with their tongues: (as they read) you would think it is a part of the Book, but it is no part of the Book; and they say, "That is from Allah," but it is not from Allah: it is they who tell a lie against Allah, and (well) they know it!

[79] It is not (possible) that a man, to whom is given the Book, and Wisdom, and the Prophetic office, should say to people: "Be ye my worshippers rather than Allah's": on the contrary (he would say): "Be ye worshippers of Him Who is truly the Cherisher of all: for ye have taught the Book and ye have studied it earnestly."

[80] Nor would he instruct you to take angels and Prophets for Lords and Patrons. What! would he bid you to unbelief after ye have bowed your will (to Allah in Islam)?

[81] Behold! Allah took the Covenant of the Prophets, saying: "I give you a Book and Wisdom; then comes to you a Messenger, confirming what is with you; do you believe him and render him help." Allah said: "Do ye agree, and take this my Covenant as binding on you?" They said: "We agree." He said: "Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses."

[82] If any turn back after this, they are perverted transgressors.

[83] Do they seek for other than the religion of Allah? While all creatures in the heavens and on earth have, willing or unwilling, bowed to His Will (accepted Islam), and to Him shall they all be brought back.

[84] Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Ibrahim, Isma'il, Ishaq, Ya'qub, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Musa, 'Isa, and the Prophets, from their Lord: we make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."


[84] Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Ibrahim, Isma'il, Ishaq, Ya'qub, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Musa, 'Isa, and the Prophets, from their Lord: we make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."

[85] If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost (all spiritual good).

[86] How shall Allah guide those who reject Faith after they accepted it and bore witness that the Messenger was true and that Clear Signs had come unto them? But Allah guides not a people unjust.

[87] Of such the reward is that on them (rests) the curse of Allah, of His angels, and of all mankind.

[88] In that will they dwell; nor will their penalty be lightened, nor respite be their (lot).

[89] Except for those that repent (even) after that, and make amends; for verily Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful

[88] In that will they dwell; nor will their penalty be lightened, nor respite be their (lot).

[89] Except for those that repent (even) after that, and make amends; for verily Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

[90] But those who reject Faith after they accepted it, and then go on adding to their defiance of Faith, never will their repentance be accepted; for they are those who have (of set purpose) gone astray.

[91] As to those who reject Faith, and die rejecting, never would be accepted from any such as much gold as the earth contains, though they should offer it for ransom. For such is (in store) a penalty grievous, and they will find no helpers.

(3:64-91)
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Karima

Junior Member
Asalamualikum,

May Allah bless all of you for this discussion with good intentions. I am reading and learning....and appreciate the efforts of this forum.

Sallam
 

Mabsoot

Amir
Staff member
Wa alaykum Salam, depends on what particular Christian background you are from. Certainly Catholics and others ask Mary or Jesus for aid its part of their faith. For example they do the hail Mary...... this is shirk, associating partners with Allah. There is no need to ask Mary to intercede for us, God is listening to those who are sincere in their prayers and their asking for repentance. And this is in contradiction to the true Islamic faith that God sent to Jesus and Abraham and all the other Prophets.

Many Christians have their own Saints, you will find this especially in Latin America and Phillipines go one extra to create amulets (lucky charms) based on their Saint... which they surgically embed under their skin!

The veneration of Saints and others in Christianity is something pretty big, Catholics particularly call upon Mary for assistance and tell her their problems. They believe it is allowed because of her nearness to God. However, even though she is much beloved by God, it does not make her any more a mortal than other humans. She is amongst the best of creation.. yet Maryam (peace and blessings be upon her) can not assist anyone, nor can she hear our prayers. Our prayers are solely for Allah and Allah alone.

So yeah, Christians and Jews share same God as Muslims, however they have some core beliefs which go against the true belief in God which we should have.

A disbeliever or Kaffir is someone who doesnt have true belief in God's religion. It is not a pejorative /bad word. It simply means someone who is not a Muslim. True belief in Allah is to believe in the Quran and all it has revealed, mainly to believe in Allah alone without ascribing any partners to him and in the last and final messenger :saw:. One must also believe in and love the other Prophets who were sent before him, such as Jesus (alayhi salam).

Everyone has their own case, and if before Islam you did good actions, Allah will accept them now that you are a Muslim. If you truly worshipped Allah alone and loved him from the start, that is not discounted.. it is the natural disposition you were upon and Allah is the most merciful, the most generous.


The Prophet :)saw:) said that he related from his Lord (Allah) :
"I created all my servants upon the true Religion (upon Tawheed, free from Shirk). Then the devils came to them and led them astray from their true Religion. They made unlawful to people that which I had made lawful for them, and they commanded them to associate in worship with Me, that which I had sent down no authority." [Related by Muslim (8/159) and Ahmad (4/162) from 'Iyaadh ibn Himaar al-Mujaashi'ee radiallaahu 'anhu]

With regaurds to Prophet Nuh (Noah ) peace be upon him,

Abdullah Ibn 'Abbas relates: "Indeed these five names of righteous men from the people of Nooh. When they died Shaytaan whispered to their people to make statues of them and to place these statues in their places of gathering as a reminder of them, so they did this. However, none from amongst them worshipped these statues, until when they died and the purpose of the statues was forgotten. Then (the next generation) began to worship them." Realted by al-Bukhaaree (8/534)
 

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