why are muslism so weak in this world

acedoc

Junior Member
:salam2: wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh


Bismilahir Rahmanir Raheem


The real reason behind muslims being so weak and disintegrated in this world is taht we do NOT follow the Quran and sunnah of the Prophet (sws). If only muslims followed this one hadith things may improve for them:

On the authority of Abu Hurairah, who said : the messenger of Allah said :

"Do not envy one another; do not inflate prices one to another; do not hate one another; do not turn away from one another; and do not undercut one another, but be you, O servants of Allah, brothers. A muslim is the brother of a muslim: he neither oppresses him nor does he fail him, he neither lies to him nor does he hold him in contempt. Piety is right here-and he pointed to his breast three times. It is evil enough for a man to hold his brother muslim in contempt. The whole of a muslim for another muslim is inviolable [haram/prohibited] : his blood, his property, and his honor."

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OnlyOne

Junior Member
Wow, JazakAllah for posting this. I got chills when reading that. Alhumdulillah, Allah gives us all the guidance we need, but unforunatley, due to our ignorance, we are blinded by arrogance and desire. :(
 

marzuki mohamed

Junior Member
:salam2:

Agree,i think this should be the answer to my below thread as well.Thx!

"why Arab League cannot unite among them?while our Mujahideen can United among them..? "

:salah:

wasalam.
 

OmarTheFrench

Junior Member
When I see in Darfur Muslims kill others Muslims .
When I see in Iraq Muslims kill others Muslims instead of be United against the true invaders troops.
When I see in Lebanon Muslims have tensions with other Muslims instead of be united against Israel.
:astag:

Make me sick and sad.

And please don't talk about panarabism who is disease for Ummah we must talk about PANISLAMISM ONLY and nothing other.
 

Abu Sarah

Allahu Akbar
Staff member
Assalam Alaykum..
gazakum Allah khyran for starting this thread so we can all see were we are failing the Ummah. The Ummah is strong it is YOU and ME that are weak..

..we are the Best Ummah..Alhamduillah..


Thus have We made of you an Ummat justly balanced, that ye might be witnesses over the nations, and the Messenger a witness over yourselves ...(2:143)

Ye are the best of Peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in Allah. If only the People of the Book had Faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have Faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. (3:110)

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and Allah protect islam...Alhamduillah..

[8] Their intention is to extinguish Allah's Light (by blowing) with their mouths: but Allah will complete (the revelation of) His Light, even though the Unbelievers may detest (it).


[9] It is He Who has sent His Messenger with Guidance and the Religion of Truth, that he may proclaim it over all religion, even though the Pagans may detest (it). ....(61:8-9)

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Ahamduillah ,Islam continues to be successful in the developed world, and elsewhere, because its call is in accordance with the fitrah or natural inclinations of mankind, and it advocates the best of human values, such as tolerance, love, mercy, truthfulness and sincerity.

Islam educates people and lifts them up to righteous conduct, good manners and virtue. Its call is distinguished from others by its realism, balance and moderation. Islam pays due attention to both the soul and the body. It neither suppresses physical desires nor allows extravagance in this regard; it makes a distinction between the natural inclination to enjoy the pleasures of this world and forbidden desires that come under the heading of depravity and perversion.

People embrace Islam because they find security, comfort and peace in it, they see a cure for their problems in it, and through it they are able to get rid of their feelings of confusion, anxiety and loss.

Islam is the religion of the fitrah, the natural inclination or pattern on which Allaah has created mankind. For this reason, people of sound minds and upright inclinations embrace Islam, as Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “The Messenger of Allaah :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: ‘There is no child who is not born in a state of fitrah (i.e., Islam), then his parents make him into a Jew, a Christian or a Magian (Zoroastrian), just as animals produce whole animals (i.e., the animals are born perfect with no part of their bodies missing). Do you find any born with their ears cut off?’” Then Abu Hurayrah (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “ ‘… Allaah’s handiwork according to the pattern on which He has made mankind: no change (let there be) in the work (wrought) by Allaah: that is the Standard Religion…’
[al-Room 30:30 – interpretation of the meaning – Yusuf Ali’s translation].”
(Reported by al-Bukhaari, 1359).



What is meant is that Allaah has created mankind with the potential to learn the truth, accept Tawheed (pure monotheism) and submit to Allaah. Their natural inclination is to learn Islam and love it, but a bad education, a kaafir (disbelieving) environment, their own whims and desires and the devils among jinn and mankind turn them away from the truth.

Mankind is basically inclined towards Tawheed (pure monotheism), as the Prophet :saw: (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) reported that his Lord (Allaah) said: “I created all my slaves as ‘hunafa’ (pure monetheists), but the devils turned them away from their religion.” (Reported by Muslim).

For this reason the one who becomes a Muslim after having been a disbeliever is described as having “reverted” to Islam, as this is more correct than saying that he “converted.” When Islam enters a country where there is no nationalism or great legacy of jaahiliyah (ignorance), it spreads quickly because of its strength and the small number of obstacles. You may also see that Islam is suitable for all people, educated and uneducated, male and female, old and young; everyone finds in it what he wants and needs. Those who become Muslim in developed countries realize what their country’s civilization and laws, which have been fabricated from men’s whims and desires, have done to them, and they realize the extent of the misery in which people in developed countries are living. They see how prevalent psychological illnesses, nervous breakdowns, insanity and suicides are, despite the technological advances and great number of discoveries and inventions and modern systems of management. This is because all of that is concerned only with the physical and the outward, but it neglects the inward and fails to nourish and nurture the heart and soul.

Allaah says of these people (interpretation of the meaning): “They know only the outside appearance of the life of the world, and they are heedless of the Hereafter.” [al-Room 30:7]

Islam will continue to succeed, with the permission of Allaah, so long as those who work for its sake are sincere and its followers adhere to it and believe in it, and apply its laws.

The fact that there are those who are not committed or who fall short will not prevent Islam from succeeding, with the permission of Allaah, and nothing can distort its beauty. Its light will not falter because some people abandon it or fail to adhere to it. What Islam has given humanity in the way of progress and civilization, and lifting them up from the darkness of oppression and enmity, is pride enough.

<wasalam>
 

Roemaysa

Junior Member
:salam2: wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh


Bismilahir Rahmanir Raheem


The real reason behind muslims being so weak and disintegrated in this world is taht we do NOT follow the Quran and sunnah of the Prophet (sws). If only muslims followed this one hadith things may improve for them:

On the authority of Abu Hurairah, who said : the messenger of Allah said :

"Do not envy one another; do not inflate prices one to another; do not hate one another; do not turn away from one another; and do not undercut one another, but be you, O servants of Allah, brothers. A muslim is the brother of a muslim: he neither oppresses him nor does he fail him, he neither lies to him nor does he hold him in contempt. Piety is right here-and he pointed to his breast three times. It is evil enough for a man to hold his brother muslim in contempt. The whole of a muslim for another muslim is inviolable [haram/prohibited] : his blood, his property, and his honor."

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Assalamoe Allikoem Acedorc,

Ik agree with you. We are weak because we don't follow the subbah and the Holy Quran. We don't know anough about or OWN relegion.... that is a shame... That is why we are weak... W can't protect or selfs from te people who hate us or who hate te islam...;-:)-( if we had a strong imaan and we knew a lot about the sunnah and the Quran we would be strong and we could show the world that islam is de religion of peace and a religion that makes a person a happy and a equitable person.

That's why a lot of shabaab in Holland desided have to follow a studie about islam and the sunnah of the prophet Mohammed and the quran.

Wassalaam,
Roemaysa
 

Globalpeace

Banned
Asslamo Allaikum Brothers,

You may find that times may change but human nature rarely does...

1) From the first murder on Earth (Habeel/Qabeel) to the last one on Earth (thinking way ahead here) you will find that the "MOTIVE" is greed...I accept that the nature of greed may change (from money, to land, to women, to power, to rule etc.) but it is greed none the less

2) Similarly the "MOTIVE" for infighting amongst the Muslims & treachery can be identified by analysing history as also (roughly) to be greed, pride, nationalism, superiority as well… from Ibn-AlQama (Tatar invasion) to Karzai/Musharraf/Husni Mubarak/King Abdullah (Jordan & Saudee)…This greed can borne out of “Personal Superiority” which is a trait of Shaytaan (I am better then YOU)! During the last century the greatest case of infighting & treachery was the abolishing of the Islamic Khilaafa…characters like Lawrence of Arabia simply took advantage of what is present in Human Nature to pit Muslims against Muslims (Turks [Non-Arabs] against Arabs)…You can read the history of Muslims & the same discernable pattern of infighting & treachery shows up everywhere (Egypt, Sudan, Libya, Algeria, India Afghanistan)…Times change, Names Change, Locations Change, Patterns change…reasons don’t

Since the nature & causes of the diseases are roughly the same (patterns and manifestations change) the CURE is also given to us by Allah (SWT) which also doesn’t change (patterns and manifestations change) the cure is FIRM EEMAN (BELIEF IN TAUHEED) & STICKING TO THE SUNNAH!

Taqwa & Sunnah together arrest the moral degradation which pits brother against brother

Taqwa & Sunnah together arrest the moral degradation which results in brothers selling brothers

Taqwa & Sunnah together arrest the moral degradation which results in brothers aligning with enemies to harm brothers

Taqwa & Sunnah together arrest the moral degradation which stops brothers from reacting when they see brothers being harmed (around the world)

Jazakullah Khairun…

P.S: Sisters, Please change brothers to sisters as the same thing affects you (read about the Women in Islam & it’s the same)…Razia Sultana sound familiar???

P.P.S: Today replace Lawrence of Arabia with the modern Secret Agencies (CIA, MI6, Mossad, RAW, KHAD, FSB (former KGB) but the Exploitations & tactics remain as highlighted by Sun Tzu & Shunkur Achariyya (thousands of years ago)...

1) I ask those interested to further analyse reasons to read "ART OF WAR" & Historical Hindu texts on "WARFARE"

2) I ask those interested to cure the problem to avoid 1 & Stick to the Qur'aan & the Sunnah
 

acedoc

Junior Member
WARNING: for All muslims from Messenger of Allah (sws)

A Hadith from Sahih Muslim that has warning for all muslims. please read it very carefully, memorize and educate others about it. This is were our weakness lies and we will certainly be destroyed (in this world or the hereafter) if we do NOT find a solution to this problem.



Book 041, Number 6904:
Thauban reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Allah drew the ends of the world near one another for my sake. And I have seen its eastern and western ends. And the dominion of my Ummah would reach those ends which have been drawn near me and I have been granted the red and the white treasures and I begged my Lord for my Ummah that it should not be destroyed because of famine, nor be dominated by an enemy who is not amongst them to take their lives and destroy them root and branch, and my Lord said: Muhammad, whenever I make a decision, there is none to change it. Well, I grant you for your Ummah that it would not be destroyed by famine and it would not be dominated by an enemy who would not be amongst it and would take their lives and destroy them root and branch even if all the people from the different parts of the world join hands together (for this purpose), but it would be from amongst them, viz. your Ummah, that some people would kill the others or imprison the others.
 

acedoc

Junior Member
Muslims selling their own brothers!

:salam2: wa rahmatullah wa barakatuh


On the authority of Abu Hurairah, who said : the messenger of Allah said :

"Do not envy one another; do not inflate prices one to another; do not hate one another; do not turn away from one another; and do not undercut one another, but be you, O servants of Allah, brothers. A muslim is the brother of a muslim: he neither oppresses him nor does he fail him, he neither lies to him nor does he hold him in contempt. Piety is right here-and he pointed to his breast three times. It is evil enough for a man to hold his brother muslim in contempt. The whole of a muslim for another muslim is inviolable [haram/prohibited] : his blood, his property, and his honor."[/COLOR
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Is this an example of a muslim honoring another muslim's life??


Gitmo Detainees Say Muslims Were Sold
MICHELLE FAUL, Associated Press Writer
Monday, September 25, 2006
THEY FED them well. The Pakistani tribesmen slaughtered a sheep in honor of their guests, Arabs and Chinese Muslims famished from fleeing U.S. bombing in the Afghan mountains. But their hosts had ulterior motives: to sell them to the Americans, said the men who are now prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.
Bounties ranged from $3,000 to $25,000, the detainees testified during military tribunals, according to transcripts the U.S. government gave The Associated Press to comply with a Freedom of Information lawsuit.



A former CIA intelligence officer who helped lead the search for Osama bin Laden told AP the accounts sounded legitimate because U.S. allies regularly got money to help catch Taliban and al-Qaida fighters. Gary Schroen said he took a suitcase of $3 million in cash into Afghanistan himself to help supply and win over warlords to fight for U.S. Special Forces.



"It wouldn't surprise me if we paid rewards," said Schroen, who retired after 32 years in the CIA soon after the fall of Kabul in late 2001. He recently published the book "First In: An Insider's Account of How the CIA Spearheaded the War on Terror in Afghanistan."



Schroen said Afghan warlords like Gen. Rashid Dostum were among those who received bundles of notes. "It may be that we were giving rewards to people like Dostum because his guys were capturing a lot of Taliban and al-Qaida," he said.
Pakistan has handed hundreds of suspects to the Americans, but Information Minister Sheikh Rashid Ahmed told the AP, "No one has taken any money."



The U.S. departments of Defense, Justice and State and the Central Intelligence Agency also said they were unaware of bounty payments being made for random prisoners.



The U.S. Rewards for Justice program pays only for information that leads to the capture of suspected terrorists identified by name, said Steve Pike, a State Department spokesman. Some $57 million has been paid under the program, according to its Web site.





It offers rewards up to $25 million for information leading to the capture of al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
But a wide variety of detainees at the U.S. lockup at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, alleged they were sold into capture. Their names and other identifying information were blacked out in the transcripts from the tribunals, which were held to determine whether prisoners were correctly classified as enemy combatants.



One detainee who said he was an Afghan refugee in Pakistan accused the country's intelligence service of trumping up evidence against him to get bounty money from the U.S.

"When I was in jail, they said I needed to pay them money and if I didn't pay them, they'd make up wrong accusations about me and sell me to the Americans and I'd definitely go to Cuba," he told the tribunal. "After that I was held for two months and 20 days in their detention, so they could make wrong accusations about me and my (censored), so they could sell us to you."



Another prisoner said he was on his way to Germany in 2001 when he was captured and sold for "a briefcase full of money" then flown to Afghanistan before being sent to Guantanamo.
"It's obvious. They knew Americans were looking for Arabs, so they captured Arabs and sold them — just like someone catches a fish and sells it," he said. The detainee said he was seized by "mafia" operatives somewhere in Europe and sold to Americans because he was in the wrong place at the wrong time — an Arab in a foreign country.

A detainee who said he was a Saudi businessman claimed, "The Pakistani police sold me for money to the Americans."

"This was part of a roundup of all foreigners and Arabs in that area," of Pakistan near the Afghan border, he said, telling the tribunal he went to Pakistan in November 2001 to help Afghan refugees.

The military-appointed representative for one detainee — who said he was a Taliban fighter — said the prisoner told him he and his fellow fighters "were tricked into surrendering to Rashid Dostum's forces. Their agreement was that they would give up their arms and return home. But Dostum's forces sold them for money to the U.S."

Several detainees who appeared to be ethnic Chinese Muslims — known as Uighurs — described being betrayed by Pakistani tribesmen along with about 100 Arabs.

They said they went to Afghanistan for military training to fight for independence from China. When U.S. warplanes started bombing near their camp, they fled into the mountains near Tora Bora and hid for weeks, starving.

One detainee said they finally followed a group of Arabs, apparently fighters, being guided by an Afghan to the Pakistani border.

"We crossed into Pakistan and there were tribal people there, and they took us to their houses and they killed a sheep and cooked the meat and we ate," he said.

That night, they were taken to a mosque, where about 100 Arabs also sheltered. After being fed bread and tea, they were told to leave in groups of 10, taken to a truck, and driven to a Pakistani prison. From there, they were handed to Americans and flown to Guantanamo.

"When we went to Pakistan the local people treated us like brothers and gave us good food and meat," said another detainee. But soon, he said, they were in prison in Pakistan where "we heard they sold us to the Pakistani authorities for $5,000 per person."

There have been reports of Arabs being sold to the Americans after the U.S.-led offensive in Afghanistan, but the testimonies offer the most detail from prisoners themselves.

In March 2002, the AP reported that Afghan intelligence offered rewards for the capture of al-Qaida fighters — the day after a five-hour meeting with U.S. Special Forces. Intelligence officers refused to say if the two events were linked and if the United States was paying the offered reward of 150 million Afghanis, then equivalent to $4,000 a head.

That day, leaflets and loudspeaker announcements promised "the big prize" to those who turned in al-Qaida fighters.

Said one leaflet: "You can receive millions of dollars. ... This is enough to take care of your family, your village, your tribe for the rest of your life — pay for livestock and doctors and school books and housing for all your people."



Helicopters broadcast similar announcements over the Afghan mountains, enticing people to "Hand over the Arabs and feed your families for a lifetime," said Najeeb al-Nauimi, a former Qatar justice minister and leader of a group of Arab lawyers representing nearly 100 detainees.



Al-Nauimi said a consortium of wealthy Arabs, including Saudis, told him they also bought back fellow citizens who had been captured by Pakistanis.
Khalid al-Odha, who started a group fighting to free 12 Kuwaiti detainees, said his imprisoned son, Fawzi, wrote him a letter from Guantanamo Bay about Kuwaitis being sold to the Americans in Afghanistan.

One Kuwaiti who was released, 26-year-old Nasser al-Mutairi, told al-Odha that interrogators said Dostum's forces sold them to the Pakistanis for $5,000 each, and the Pakistanis in turn sold them to the Americans.

"I also heard that Saudis were sold to the Saudi government by the Pakistanis," al-Odha said. "If I had known that, I would have gone and bought my son back."



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